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I have an oil sample to send to Blackstone Labs for analysis, so I went to their website to see if the price had increased. It had by $2, to $30. While searching for their site I stumbled on to one of their newsletters. It showed average wear rates for the 10 most popular oils used in 4 engine types. The wear rates were calculated from the presence of aluminum, iron, chromium, copper, and lead in used oil samples. They compiled this from thousands of customer oil analyses in their database. The results were completely inconclusive. No brand showed any meaningful advantage over another. In cases where a brand appeared to have a slight advantage in reducing wear in one engine type, it showed more wear in another. It looks like the oil you choose makes very little difference, if any. The newsletter is here: https://www.blackstone-labs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Aug-17-ENG.pdf |
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 07:06:24 AM » |
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It looks like the oil you choose makes very little difference, if any.I suspect they failed to take tires into consideration  -Mike
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mello dude
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2020, 07:57:35 AM » |
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Things that make you go hmm.......... I have often wondered if Blackstone's analysis is really a condition of your engine thing vs condition of the oil thing.... And for fun - A riddle.... .asking the question to the old bastard curmudgeon mechanic ..... "Well sir, what's the best oil?". His reply.... "Clean."  |
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2020, 10:17:13 AM » |
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It looks like the oil you choose makes very little difference, if any.I suspect they failed to take tires into consideration -Mike Ooooooooooooo! Car tires or bike tires  |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2020, 10:46:17 AM » |
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I believe the brand of oil makes little difference until it wears out. I used Dino oil the first 100,000 miles changing at 3K. Switched to Synthetic and change at 8 or 9K. Either way. I think the bike was protected. My oil looks almost as good coming out as it did going in. Light brown on the dipstick at 170K
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 02:12:50 PM » |
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Oh boy, it's been a while since we had an Oil Thread!  I use Rotella T6, 5-40 Synthetic Oil. Change it every 5000 miles or once a year, which ever comes first. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2020, 06:15:19 PM » |
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No expert here, but I use Delo diesel oil at costco and use it in my cars, truck and bikes with no issues..
I'm a simple man who likes things to be Occam (like)
Just my n=1 FWIW
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2020, 01:28:12 PM » |
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Like Chris J I have been using Dino oil (Valvoline Conventional) all along changing at 5K intervals (easier to keep track of 5K increments). My bike just clicked over the 145K mark and burns no oil and is still silky smooth. My 2 cents
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2020, 01:59:49 PM » |
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don't use crisco, wesson, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2020, 08:26:53 PM » |
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Rotella 5wt40 full synthetic is the best oil you can buy for your Valkyrie. ( period )
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 10:11:43 PM » |
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Rotella 5wt40 full synthetic is the best oil you can buy for your Valkyrie. ( period )
Asking what's the best oil is like asking what's the best beer....there are some very good choices... |
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2020, 04:10:48 AM » |
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Rotella 5wt40 full synthetic is the best oil you can buy for your Valkyrie. ( period )
Asking what's the best oil is like asking what's the best beer....there are some very good choices... Let me tell you about the best bar-b-que! -Mike |
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2020, 07:29:53 AM » |
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Rotella 5wt40 full synthetic is the best oil you can buy for your Valkyrie. ( period )
Use to be but not anymore on my bike. New formula sucks. Otherwise any MC compliant dino/synthetic usually cost more than the diesel oils but.... Choices a plenty. |
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F6Dave
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 07:47:51 AM » |
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I thought about this some more and realized that anyone who spends to time and money to analyze engine oil probably takes better care of their vehicles better than most people. They'd also be less likely to extend the oil change intervals too far. This could explain the similar levels of wear materials in all brands.
Like Chris said, all brands do pretty much the same thing until they wear out. As long as there's adequate viscosity and the additives aren't depleted your engine doesn't care about the label. The only exception may be some of the new formulas that have reduced anti-wear additives to satisfy the EPA.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 07:54:00 AM » |
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