Promising Vaccine News

[F6Dave]

Moderna reported some promising news on their C19 vaccine trial.  30 of 45 volunteers receiving the trial vaccine had antibody levels at or above those found in recovered patients.  The stock market responded positively, and oil is over $32.

[Chrisj CMA]

I still won’t take it.

[Jess from VA]

I still won’t take it.

Me either, at least not until 10 million guinea pigs do first (and we see how that goes).  And maybe not even then.

[hubcapsc]

I'd be on it like white on rice  ...

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'd be on it like white on rice  ...

-Mike

ditto (mostly for my granddaughter’s sake)

[f6john]

I don’t take a flue shot every year, not sure what I would do about this vaccine.

[Chrisj CMA]

This is a very different type of vaccine. It’s genetic. This means the way it works is by altering your DNA. Go for it if you want. I will not give up my Non GMO status because Bill Gates thinks it’s a good idea

[Savago]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

[Serk]

While it should be any citizens right to take or refuse the vaccine in a free society, I will be rolling up my sleeves to get it shortly after it's available. Not necessarily on day one, but probably month one.

From my lay understanding or Recombinant DNA vaccines, as I believe the one in today's news is, it does not change your DNA, it's that the DNA of the virus itself is made by combining DNA from different things, then that recombinant DNA is the vaccine that your immune system is able to train against, without facing the actual enemy.

Interesting thing I noted in my brief research, for those diabetics on insulin, the majority of it currently used it made using recombinant DNA techniques now, as well as many other things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombinant_DNA#Uses

[Chrisj CMA]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/altering-human-genetics-through-vaccination

This is what Bill Gates was working on before the project was red lighted and sent to China where it exploded.  Bill Gates still wants to launch this next generation of vaccines no matter the consequences

[Serk]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/altering-human-genetics-through-vaccination

The Recombinant DNA Vaccine that was discussed today is a very different animal from a DNA vaccine.

From my lay understanding, a DNA vaccine does indeed program the recipient's own body to produce the vaccine, as it were. But a Recombinant DNA Vaccine is just referring to DNA in the sense of that's how the vaccine is made.

"The immunogenic protein associated with a recombinant DNA vaccine is made in the laboratory and injected into the vaccine recipient, while the immunogenic protein associated with a DNA vaccine is generated by the cells of the host. Recombinant DNA vaccines are based on the expression of biological constructs encoding proteins from specific viral pathogens, and are not themselves made of DNA. Instead, they are made of protein or glycoprotein subunits synthesized in the laboratory using recombinant DNA technology."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/715527_5

[Chrisj CMA]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/altering-human-genetics-through-vaccination

The Recombinant DNA Vaccine that was discussed today is a very different animal from a DNA vaccine.

From my lay understanding, a DNA vaccine does indeed program the recipient's own body to produce the vaccine, as it were. But a Recombinant DNA Vaccine is just referring to DNA in the sense of that's how the vaccine is made.

"The immunogenic protein associated with a recombinant DNA vaccine is made in the laboratory and injected into the vaccine recipient, while the immunogenic protein associated with a DNA vaccine is generated by the cells of the host. Recombinant DNA vaccines are based on the expression of biological constructs encoding proteins from specific viral pathogens, and are not themselves made of DNA. Instead, they are made of protein or glycoprotein subunits synthesized in the laboratory using recombinant DNA technology."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/715527_5

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/06/new-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/

[Serk]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/altering-human-genetics-through-vaccination

The Recombinant DNA Vaccine that was discussed today is a very different animal from a DNA vaccine.

From my lay understanding, a DNA vaccine does indeed program the recipient's own body to produce the vaccine, as it were. But a Recombinant DNA Vaccine is just referring to DNA in the sense of that's how the vaccine is made.

"The immunogenic protein associated with a recombinant DNA vaccine is made in the laboratory and injected into the vaccine recipient, while the immunogenic protein associated with a DNA vaccine is generated by the cells of the host. Recombinant DNA vaccines are based on the expression of biological constructs encoding proteins from specific viral pathogens, and are not themselves made of DNA. Instead, they are made of protein or glycoprotein subunits synthesized in the laboratory using recombinant DNA technology."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/715527_5

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/06/new-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/

The vaccine from Moderna announced today is a RNA vaccine, NOT a DNA insertion vaccine.

[Chrisj CMA]

@Chrisj: what do you mean by the vacine 'altering your DNA'?

I'm pretty sure if this specific vacine (Moderna) is made available to the general public, it was because it went through proper testing.

There are also other research groups working on other approaches for creating a vacine.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/altering-human-genetics-through-vaccination

The Recombinant DNA Vaccine that was discussed today is a very different animal from a DNA vaccine.

From my lay understanding, a DNA vaccine does indeed program the recipient's own body to produce the vaccine, as it were. But a Recombinant DNA Vaccine is just referring to DNA in the sense of that's how the vaccine is made.

"The immunogenic protein associated with a recombinant DNA vaccine is made in the laboratory and injected into the vaccine recipient, while the immunogenic protein associated with a DNA vaccine is generated by the cells of the host. Recombinant DNA vaccines are based on the expression of biological constructs encoding proteins from specific viral pathogens, and are not themselves made of DNA. Instead, they are made of protein or glycoprotein subunits synthesized in the laboratory using recombinant DNA technology."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/715527_5

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/06/new-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/

The vaccine from Moderna announced today is a RNA vaccine, NOT a DNA insertion vaccine.

The main difference between DNA and RNA vaccines and virus-vectored vaccines is the complexity of the delivery system, which in the case of virus-vectored vaccines

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

[Serk]

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

The difference being with RNA it's the VACCINE itself that's engineered, with DNA Insertion techniques it's the person that's received the virus that's been changed (Kinda.)

In other words, if you had the RNA Vaccine, YOUR DNA would remain unaltered. It's just that they use those techniques to make the vaccine, not in its' course of action.

[Chrisj CMA]

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

The difference being with RNA it's the VACCINE itself that's engineered, with DNA Insertion techniques it's the person that's received the virus that's been changed (Kinda.)

In other words, if you had the RNA Vaccine, YOUR DNA would remain unaltered. It's just that they use those techniques to make the vaccine, not in its' course of action.

I don’t trust it. I don’t believe it. Don’t mess with my DNA. How will you know you’re getting the good one (if there is a good one) or the evil Bill Gates ID2020 one. Keep that chit away from me!

[Serk]

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

The difference being with RNA it's the VACCINE itself that's engineered, with DNA Insertion techniques it's the person that's received the virus that's been changed (Kinda.)

In other words, if you had the RNA Vaccine, YOUR DNA would remain unaltered. It's just that they use those techniques to make the vaccine, not in its' course of action.

I don’t trust it. I don’t believe it. Don’t mess with my DNA. How will you know you’re getting the good one or the evil Bill Gates ID2020 one. Keep that chit away from me!

And in a free society you're free to decline it. I think you'd be making a mistake, but that's your choice and I respect and would defend it.

[Savago]

@Chris: I would assume that if you had young children you would also not allow them to have this new vaccine...

I hope that at least you would wear a mask while being in a public space with other people?

[Jersey mike]

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

The difference being with RNA it's the VACCINE itself that's engineered, with DNA Insertion techniques it's the person that's received the virus that's been changed (Kinda.)

In other words, if you had the RNA Vaccine, YOUR DNA would remain unaltered. It's just that they use those techniques to make the vaccine, not in its' course of action.

I don’t trust it. I don’t believe it. Don’t mess with my DNA. How will you know you’re getting the good one or the evil Bill Gates ID2020 one. Keep that chit away from me!

And in a free society you're free to decline it. I think you'd be making a mistake, but that's your choice and I respect and would defend it.

I know I will not be first in line for any vaccine, let the other fine Americans be the testers, I’m not a guinea pig and neither are the other members of the family.

I’ll be happy to wait as long as possible. I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

[Chrisj CMA]

@Chris: I would assume that if you had young children you would also not allow them to have this new vaccine...

I hope that at least you would wear a mask while being in a public space with other people?

If I was sick I would stay home. Well people don’t need masks if they practice safe social skills

I know in CA you need to worry about naked strangers peeing and pooping on you. Thank goodness we don’t have that issue here.

[Chrisj CMA]

RNA is still defined as genetic engineering. There is still gene alteration.

The difference being with RNA it's the VACCINE itself that's engineered, with DNA Insertion techniques it's the person that's received the virus that's been changed (Kinda.)

In other words, if you had the RNA Vaccine, YOUR DNA would remain unaltered. It's just that they use those techniques to make the vaccine, not in its' course of action.

I don’t trust it. I don’t believe it. Don’t mess with my DNA. How will you know you’re getting the good one or the evil Bill Gates ID2020 one. Keep that chit away from me!

And in a free society you're free to decline it. I think you'd be making a mistake, but that's your choice and I respect and would defend it.

I know I will not be first in line for any vaccine, let the other fine Americans be the testers, I’m not a guinea pig and neither are the other members of the family.

I’ll be happy to wait as long as possible. I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Exactly mike...exactly

[Jersey mike]

@Chris: I would assume that if you had young children you would also not allow them to have this new vaccine...

I hope that at least you would wear a mask while being in a public space with other people?

Pants soak up liquid...the stink of urine still gets into the air.

When you pass gas in your jeans the odor still makes it way out...there’s no stopping it.

In the last week I’ve read at least 4 articles saying masks do not help...no I’m not going back to find them, believe me they’re out there. I’ve done more reading in the last 4 months than I’ve done since HS., my freaking brain hurts from all this bulls*#!!!.

Unfortunately wearing a mask is the only way to get into anyplace now, but I don’t put one on until I’m at the door and rip it off as I’m leaving any store and light a cigarette when I’m back in my truck.

None of this makes ay sense.

[Savago]

I know in CA you need to worry about naked strangers peeing and pooping on you. Thank goodness we don’t have that issue here.

In California as whole no, but in SF it is a possibility!
 

[Bighead]

@Chris: I would assume that if you had young children you would also not allow them to have this new vaccine...

I hope that at least you would wear a mask while being in a public space with other people?

Pants soak up liquid...the stink of urine still gets into the air.

When you pass gas in your jeans the odor still makes it way out...there’s no stopping it.

In the last week I’ve read at least 4 articles saying masks do not help...no I’m not going back to find them, believe me they’re out there. I’ve done more reading in the last 4 months than I’ve done since HS., my freaking brain hurts from all this bulls*#!!!.

Unfortunately wearing a mask is the only way to get into anyplace now, but I don’t put one on until I’m at the door and rip it off as I’m leaving any store and light a cigarette when I’m back in my truck.

None of this makes ay sense.

Mike the only thing the mask is doing is to keep YOU from INFECTING others (by coughing or sneezing on others). It does ZERO to keep you safe. That is all.

[Jersey mike]

Mike the only thing the mask is doing is to keep YOU from INFECTING others (by coughing or sneezing on others). It does ZERO to keep you safe. That is all.

Every year our town has a farmers market at a local park/beach, this weekend was the first of the year.

4 police officers working traffic control not wearing masks...all 4 stood at the entrance face to face talking to each other. I should have had the Mrs. take a photo but didn’t see the point, it would have perpetrated the problem.

[Serk]

The way I see the mask is that if I wear one it helps the weak minded feel better, and isn't it a calling to help the weak?

As long as it's not government mandated, I mostly wear one, just to make the weak feel better...

*Shrug*

(The moment the government says I HAVE to, the mask comes on, purely on principal... And sadly that stance has already cost me a friend of over 35 years, but so be it. )

[The emperor has no clothes]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

[Chrisj CMA]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

80% of people younger than 65 in good respiratory health will have mild symptoms. Some of us have had it and don’t even know it. The government needs us to be afraid. I’ve been shot at. Almost crashed in Aircraft a couple times and had injuries that I don’t need to list. I’m not any more scared of Covid 19 than I was of Swine H1N1 or any regular flu seasons that I have not taken the shot in the last 20 years. I refuse to live in fear.

[carolinarider09]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

I tired to find some statistics on organ failures and loss of limbs due to COVID19.  

So, if you have a source I'd love to see it.

What I did find was that organ failure is a common cause of death from COVID19.  

There can be blood clots and that might lead to the loss of a limb and of course organ failure, but, its hard to find data.  

Regarding Polio, When I was in third grade (or second grade I forget), a girl in my class had polio.  Whether she still had the virus or not, she was partially paralyzed.  But she was in the class with the rest of us kids.  From what little I can find about polio it is a virus and can be around for some time.  That would have been in 1955.  The same year the vaccine was developed.  I don't remember if we had it yet or not.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

80% of people younger than 65 in good respiratory health will have mild symptoms. Some of us have had it and don’t even know it. The government needs us to be afraid. I’ve been shot at. Almost crashed in Aircraft a couple times and had injuries that I don’t need to list. I’m not any more scared of Covid 19 than I was of Swine H1N1 or any regular flu seasons that I have not taken the shot in the last 20 years. I refuse to live in fear.

Jeff, I'm glad you refuse to live in fear. None of us should live in fear. I know I don't. But, my response was about surviving the virus will make you stronger. That's just not the case. At least not for a good many people. I haven't had a flu shot since '77. I'm not a proponent of them in general. But this virus is different. Why people think the government needs us to be afraid is boggling to me. The government is us. Trump was voted in as head of the government. Do you think he wants us to be afraid ?

[Chrisj CMA]

Meathead, Trump wants the country to open up. It seems his political enemies want to keep folks out of work spend more money we don’t have and keep everyone cooped up until it’s “safe”. It will never be safe and some people may get sick but it’s un American to hide and cringe because there’s a tiny chance of catching something with a 95% recovery rate.

[F6Dave]

I'd be on it like white on rice  ...

-Mike

ditto (mostly for my granddaughter’s sake)

We agree on something!  I have a co-worker and a family member who recovered from C19.  They're about half my age.  They were both very sick for weeks.  I'd prefer not to catch this virus, and am happy to see the promising vaccine news.

[Jersey mike]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

Polio is an entirely different animal. It’s not a 1-1 comparison.

Now measles and mumps may be closer to use as an example for comparison.

In that case, I know 3 people who had measles in their mid 20’s and 1 who had mumps (this was about 25 years ago) who had been vaccinated as children. So let’s be realistic here, vaccinating the entire country is not as perfect as it sounds. For me to know 4 people who were vaccinated against terrible childhood illnesses who then contracted that illness is beyond reasonable numbers but it’s fact.

[Valkorado]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

I tired to find some statistics on organ failures and loss of limbs due to COVID19.  

So, if you have a source I'd love to see it.

What I did find was that organ failure is a common cause of death from COVID19.  

There can be blood clots and that might lead to the loss of a limb and of course organ failure, but, its hard to find data.  

Yes blood clots resulting from COVID infection can and do lead to organ failure, tissue atrophy and limb amputation.

https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/stony-brook-medicines-surgery-team-attacks-covid-19-from-every-angle/

“A significant increase in D-dimer levels has been noted in hospitalized COVID-19 patients and there are early reports that have linked higher D-dimer levels to worse outcomes,” said Dr. Tassiopoulos. “We believe that the increase in D-dimer levels reflects a more severe prothrombotic state — which means there is an increase in the risk of dangerous blood clots forming in the large or small blood vessels of the body.”

Blood clots can lead to life-threatening conditions, such as end-organ function deterioration; deep vein thrombosis (DVT) leading to fatal pulmonary embolism (PE); and life- or limb-threatening thromboses in the arteries causing strokes, heart attacks or amputations in otherwise low-risk patients

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/24/long-term-impact-of-coronavirus-on-the-body/


https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1276067/coronavirus-symptoms-signs-covid-19-infection-complications-blood-clot-amputation

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/poland-mothers-new-normal-flu-hospitalization-leads-to-amputations/


https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2020/04/29/covid-19-causing-strokes-in-young-people

https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-broadway-star-nick-cordero-awakens-from-coma-after-covid-19-1.4937315

[Chrisj CMA]

And motorcycle riding can lead to dismemberment, brain damage internal organ damage and death. Who’s going riding today?

I AM. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

Polio is an entirely different animal. It’s not a 1-1 comparison.

Now measles and mumps may be closer to use as an example for comparison.

In that case, I know 3 people who had measles in their mid 20’s and 1 who had mumps (this was about 25 years ago) who had been vaccinated as children. So let’s be realistic here, vaccinating the entire country is not as perfect as it sounds. For me to know 4 people who were vaccinated against terrible childhood illnesses who then contracted that illness is beyond reasonable numbers but it’s fact.

You are correct. I didn't mean to equate Covid with Polio. What I did mean to do was show that just because you get a disease and survive it, doesn't necessarily make you stronger. There are thousands of Covid survivors out there who can attest to that.

And motorcycle riding can lead to dismemberment, brain damage internal organ damage and death. Who’s going riding today?

I AM. 

leaving in 15 minutes. (Unfortunately it's just to work)

[Valkorado]

And motorcycle riding can lead to dismemberment, brain damage internal organ damage and death. Who’s going riding today?

I AM. 

Me too!    Went yesterday as well.  Picked up and mounted my "new" trunk yesterday, too.  Once I replace the rear fender Ruby will be recovered from being rear ended last summer.  It's been a long road getting her back!

Dang near as expensive finding and painting that trunk as buying one new would have been -- if they were still available new!

[F6Dave]

Yes blood clots resulting from COVID infection can and do lead to organ failure, tissue atrophy and limb amputation.

This is where it becomes clear that C19 is NOT just another flu.  When you recover from the flu, that's usually the end of it.  But C19 can have life altering side effects.

C19 is also extremely contagious.  But interestingly, in the co-worker and family member cases I'm very familiar with, other household members did not get infected.

[Jersey mike]

I’ll be more than happy to catch it naturally and build my own resistance up. What don’t kill ya can only make ya stronger.

Not necessarily. I doubt many polio victims feel it made them stronger. As far as this Covid stuff, there are many who have come out of it with lost limbs, organ failures, etc.

I tired to find some statistics on organ failures and loss of limbs due to COVID19.  

So, if you have a source I'd love to see it.

What I did find was that organ failure is a common cause of death from COVID19.  

There can be blood clots and that might lead to the loss of a limb and of course organ failure, but, its hard to find data.  

Yes blood clots resulting from COVID infection can and do lead to organ failure, tissue atrophy and limb amputation.

https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/stony-brook-medicines-surgery-team-attacks-covid-19-from-every-angle/

“A significant increase in D-dimer levels has been noted in hospitalized COVID-19 patients and there are early reports that have linked higher D-dimer levels to worse outcomes,” said Dr. Tassiopoulos. “We believe that the increase in D-dimer levels reflects a more severe prothrombotic state — which means there is an increase in the risk of dangerous blood clots forming in the large or small blood vessels of the body.”

Blood clots can lead to life-threatening conditions, such as end-organ function deterioration; deep vein thrombosis (DVT) leading to fatal pulmonary embolism (PE); and life- or limb-threatening thromboses in the arteries causing strokes, heart attacks or amputations in otherwise low-risk patients

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/24/long-term-impact-of-coronavirus-on-the-body/


https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1276067/coronavirus-symptoms-signs-covid-19-infection-complications-blood-clot-amputation

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/poland-mothers-new-normal-flu-hospitalization-leads-to-amputations/


https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2020/04/29/covid-19-causing-strokes-in-young-people

https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-broadway-star-nick-cordero-awakens-from-coma-after-covid-19-1.4937315

Like so much other info out there, there is no mention of age groups for these issues or for any issues regarding this virus. How many people go through life with undiagnosed medical issues each and every day, 24/7/365. There are probably millions of people out there who take medication for blood clots, many of them young too. When info is written about yet no ages are used there’s no telling how much is useful to each age category. Older people have many issues with blood clots and blood circulation, that’s been a fact for decades. Young and middle age people have been victims of blood clots also, it’s nothing new.

About 6-8 years ago a lady who was a family friend suffered a brain aneurysm at a school function. She lived and recovered but stuff happens. At the time she was in her early 40’s, active, healthy, nonsmoking, no previous issues.

An invasion of a virus on each body out there will attack the weakest part of that body. Every body has a weak link somewhere in it. Nature and time will find a way to exploit it and expose it.

[F6Dave]

Regarding Polio, When I was in third grade (or second grade I forget), a girl in my class had polio.  Whether she still had the virus or not, she was partially paralyzed.  But she was in the class with the rest of us kids.  From what little I can find about polio it is a virus and can be around for some time.  That would have been in 1955.  The same year the vaccine was developed.  I don't remember if we had it yet or not.

Not all cases caused paralysis.  My Mom had polio in the late 1940s and recovered fully.  In fact, she holds a Senior Olympics state record for swimming, and is still living independently today at age 89.