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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2020, 04:29:19 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. toyota pushrod engine to public? 2007 thru 2020 5.7L V8 in the tundra  What series engine would that be ? Both the UR and I-Force are DOHC engines. [I used to own a Tundra, Land Cruiser, Highlander, never again.] I see Toyota is supposedly coming out with a 5.9L pushrod engine. As far as I know Toyota never offered to the public a 5.7L [ 355 cu in] pushrod engine as is supposedly required by NASCAR. So if they do make one I'd like to know which series it is. No one else I've talked to knows. If they do offer one to the public then I guess they are not cheating. I had a 2005 Tundra and put 250k on it. I now have a 2017 Tundra and a 2002 highlander and s 2015 sienna. Whats so wrong with toyotas? |
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2020, 05:53:04 AM » |
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Clemson has stripped the names Tillman and Calhoun from everything.
Thomas Clemson was a Confederate officer, so expect Clemson to
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2020, 05:59:48 AM » |
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They can remove statues and change their names all they want. I will never forget
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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2020, 06:38:28 AM » |
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I don't think and NASCAR teams have that flag on their cars, so what is being banned? A fan with the Confederate flag? How about a fan with flag themed t-shirt?
Part of NASCAR is a giant in-field event, people who show up the day before in their RVs and stuff... Confederate flags are everywhere. They've had them "banned" for a while, but they've still been there. What is banned is any Confederate stuff among what is being vended on site, and no Confederate symbols on cars. They refused to let the Sons Of Confederate Veterans sponsor a car a few years ago. They use their pull to get any Confederate messages removed from the main roads leading to NASCAR events. They got this pulled down the road from the Darlington track a few years ago:  But... we'd paid for it, our lawyers made them put it back up the day before the race -Mike Interesting. You never see that covered on the TV race broadcasts! I been to hundreds of races. Indycars, SCCA, AMA, IMSA, and even a few Formula One races. I attended some of the old lower tier NASCAR races (Busch Grand National and Craftsman Truck) when they used to run at the nearby Pikes Peak track. But I've never been to a Cup race. It appears that in the South those are a different kind of event! |
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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2020, 09:50:23 AM » |
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PLEASE...white liberals...QUIT apologizing for ALL white people...YOU DON'T speak for the majority of white people, and when you take a knee, make it very obvious that you do so in the name of the democrats(liberals in Canada) NOT in the name of your country...we are all full up with the BS...It's why Trump got elected and will get elected again. I'm afraid the left wing ship of fools here where I live are still going to vote for the virtue signalling black face village clown.
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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2020, 11:52:20 AM » |
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in the news, the General Lee car is going to have its roof top flag painted over.
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2020, 12:14:58 PM » |
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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2020, 02:01:51 PM » |
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Where does it end? Only when America goes complete commie and we are all equally miserable....
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2020, 04:08:24 PM » |
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https://www.wbtv.com/2020/06/13/nc-sons-confederate-veterans-respond-flags-statues-being-removed/Good for them. I'm not quite sure what they're planning, but I wish them all the best. The NC Sons of Confederate Veterans released this statement: “The North Carolina Sons of Confederate Veterans (NC SCV) declares in the strongest language that it will stand with its sisters in the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) and other veterans’ groups, and with the two-thirds of all Tar Heel citizens—in every poll—who strongly oppose taking down and removing memorials to our ancestors who fought and died for our state in the War Between the States. "Here in North Carolina city governments and councils in Rocky Mount, Salisbury, Asheville, Wilmington and other cities, giving in to the violent Marxist mobs (a tiny portion of the population), have voted to take down long-standing monuments which honor those soldiers. In so doing those agents of government commit a grave injustice not only against our ancestors, but against a full understanding of our history and in all its aspects. "We remind those city fathers that in most of these cases the 2015 North Carolina Monuments Protection Law applies, and that unilateral action without the approval of the North Carolina Historical Commission would be illegal. "The NC SCV, working with the UDC, will do everything in our power financially, legally, and politically to oppose this “domestic Taliban” of mindless and destructive hatred. "Those men are officially recognized by the U.S. Federal government as veterans deserving of respect and honor. And their monuments, like the monuments to veterans of World War II, Korea and Vietnam honor their service, in many cases their death, and not slavery. "In recent days, almost all symbols of American heritage have been attacked, monuments toppled, defiled and spray painted, by radical Antifa-style mobs: Christopher Columbus, George Washington, the Founders of our country, abolitionist Mathias Baldwin, a memorial to the 54th MA U.S. Colored Troops, and the historic monuments and symbols of the Confederacy. "It has all been a part of a progressive campaign to completely destroy this republic and distort its past. "In Portsmouth, VA a rioter is now in a coma after part of a memorial fell on the rioter. This incident only highlights the failures of many local governments to uphold the law and restore order. If these criminal gangs are allowed to continue on their path to destroy our republic, and break every law, more unnecessary physical harm will come to the citizenry. "We cannot and will not stand idly by as a small, noisy, organized group of Marxist revolutionaries terrorize the majority of our citizens and manipulate local governments into submission. “A country without a past and its symbols is no country at all.”
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2020, 05:59:08 PM » |
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This issue has now raised it's ugly head at my front door. Having recently moved to Southern Mississippi, the Stars and Bars is displayed on our adopted state flag. The only state flag to still present it.
In 2001, this issue was on the ballot and Mississippi voters overwhelmingly decided to keep the Stars and Bars on their flag. The current governor has stated that it's up to the voters if they want to change the state flag. I happen to agree with him. I understand honoring the fallen and fully agree that if one ignores history, one is likely to repeat it.
Being a new resident of Mississippi, I don't have an emotional "dog in the fight". But, there was as peaceful demonstration in down town Hattiesburg today demanding a statue of a civil war soldier be removed. I ask myself, what if that was a statue of the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima...….. I connect with that memorial. Some what of a conundrum.
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This issue has now raised it's ugly head at my front door. Having recently moved to Southern Mississippi, the Stars and Bars is displayed on our adopted state flag. The only state flag to still present it.
In 2001, this issue was on the ballot and Mississippi voters overwhelmingly decided to keep the Stars and Bars on their flag. The current governor has stated that it's up to the voters if they want to change the state flag. I happen to agree with him. I understand honoring the fallen and fully agree that if one ignores history, one is likely to repeat it.
Being a new resident of Mississippi, I don't have an emotional "dog in the fight". But, there was as peaceful demonstration in down town Hattiesburg today demanding a statue of a civil war soldier be removed. I ask myself, what if that was a statue of the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima...….. I connect with that memorial. Some what of a conundrum.
Rams
For some reason, that same thought crossed my mind today, the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima. Then I thought, what about naval ships. I was on the SSBN-599, Patrick Henry. But there were others in the "41" for freedom. The Henry was a George Washington class FBM. Others in that class include (besides the Henry), the Theodore Roosevelt, the Robert E Lee, and the Abraham Lincoln. Other boats in the 41 For Freedom group included, The Sam Houston, The Andrew Jackson, The Stonewall Jackson, among others. What about their names, their service, the men that sailed on the and stood watch and protected the US during the "Cold War". Would their history be erased? I think not. |
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2020, 06:52:26 PM » |
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For the record I sewn one on to my vest back in 2010 Back to the dukes of Hazard marathon  Dan |
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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2020, 07:49:35 PM » |
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This issue has now raised it's ugly head at my front door. Having recently moved to Southern Mississippi, the Stars and Bars is displayed on our adopted state flag. The only state flag to still present it.
In 2001, this issue was on the ballot and Mississippi voters overwhelmingly decided to keep the Stars and Bars on their flag. The current governor has stated that it's up to the voters if they want to change the state flag. I happen to agree with him. I understand honoring the fallen and fully agree that if one ignores history, one is likely to repeat it.
Being a new resident of Mississippi, I don't have an emotional "dog in the fight". But, there was as peaceful demonstration in down town Hattiesburg today demanding a statue of a civil war soldier be removed. I ask myself, what if that was a statue of the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima...….. I connect with that memorial. Some what of a conundrum.
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For some reason, that same thought crossed my mind today, the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima. Then I thought, what about naval ships. I was on the SSBN-599, Patrick Henry. But there were others in the "41" for freedom. The Henry was a George Washington class FBM. Others in that class include (besides the Henry), the Theodore Roosevelt, the Robert E Lee, and the Abraham Lincoln. Other boats in the 41 For Freedom group included, The Sam Houston, The Andrew Jackson, The Stonewall Jackson, among others. What about their names, their service, the men that sailed on the and stood watch and protected the US during the "Cold War". Would their history be erased? I think not. All I can say is, generally the winners get to write or re-write history. In a few generations, students will no longer be taught what we were taught, there will most likely be a "new history" they will be teaching. The real truth is not relevant. The education system is full of Liberals. Edited: If for no other reason, maybe that is a good reason to leave the statues as they are. They are a tribute to fallen soldiers. They also represent a social system that needed to be reformed. I guess it depends on what you see when you look at them. Rams |
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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2020, 07:57:40 PM » |
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FYI: This flag below is the Stars and Bars. Sometimes with 7, sometimes with 9, 11, or 13 stars. Otherwise the Stars and Bars flag of the C.S.A. looks exactly like this. Also known as the first flag of the Confederacy. This completes the history lesson for the day. Thanks for your attention   Every time I meet or talk to you I learn something. Thanks! Rams |
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I see you are eager to learn, so here's more  The "X" in the various battle flags is not an "X", but actually it is a cross. The flags were designed in reference to the cross of St. Andrew who was crucified on a cross of this configuration. It is therefore a Christian symbol of Southern Scotland and adopted by the creator of the "rebel" flags. Now, what the looney's don't realize yet is, this is the same cross currently used in the state flag of Alabama, the state flag of Florida, and as you know the state of Mississippi, and countries all over the globe. All the same symbol, that is all it means. |
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2020, 07:23:59 AM » |
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I didn't know that either. What was the significance of the 3 bars?
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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2020, 08:18:38 AM » |
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I didn't know that either. What was the significance of the 3 bars?
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2020, 08:28:00 AM » |
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All that I can say about that is the Stars and Bars flag is an early design and was the first of the three eventual flags of the C.S.A.
The designer was Prussian descent and the three bars are very likely copied from the Austrian flag, so don't know if it really has any significance other than that. I know it was not used for long as it was confused with the Union flag in some cases at certain distance and conditions.
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for the history buffs--google "Avalon project Yale Law school"--go to 19 century and about 30 entries down are the "Confederate papers"--4 states wrote why they seceded and all were for completely different reasons--the academic one is the South Carolina papers,Texas seceded as it couldn't get any Federal help fighting the indians--all good reads..Next and least exposed is the financing of the Civil War....per the Constitution only gold and silver could be used to pay public debt..Lincoln was told it would be $600 million to pay to win the war--they didn't have it so he went to the Rothschilds to borrow it and being swells they wanted 30% interest!..Abe cried and went home--they called him back and said "well we will let you(which is us) print the "Greenback"but we have to be paid back in gold in 10 years" Abe agreed--so we got 750,000 people killed for an institution that ended peacefully all around the world in the next 15 years..at the cost of $600.000,000...so in todays dollars that would be? a couple of trillion??Thanx Abe
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit...  Hey Serk, See if you can get me the name from this guys badge. First, I think that I know him and Second I'd like to know if he's still employed. When Kapernick first started the kneeling crap it was made very clear to us that if anyone did it at a NASCAR track that they would be immediately escorted from the property. |
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The way things have been going for the past several years,I can't help but think that some day white people will be on the flip side of History.
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The way things have been going for the past several years,I can't help but think that some day white people will be on the flip side of History.
You mean like starting yesterday? Wasn't it just a few years back the taliban were trying to eliminate Judaism and Christianity? Guess white folks next in line? And our loverly political types in office continue to give in. State name changes along with cities being renamed? How bout renaming the entire country? RIDE SAFE. |
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The way things have been going for the past several years,I can't help but think that some day white people will be on the flip side of History.
You mean like starting yesterday? Wasn't it just a few years back the taliban were trying to eliminate Judaism and Christianity? Guess white folks next in line? And our loverly political types in office continue to give in. State name changes along with cities being renamed? How bout renaming the entire country? RIDE SAFE. Wait till they figure out slave ships were flying US Flags. |
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit... Is that during the anthem? None of the crew mwmbers have a hand over the heart but heads bowed. It looks like it is during prayer. Wait till they figure out slave ships were flying US Flags.
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit... Is that during the anthem? None of the crew mwmbers have a hand over the heart but heads bowed. It looks like it is during prayer. Wait till they figure out slave ships were flying US Flags.
Most if not all of the slave ships sailed under British flags. The colonies (and U.S.) benefited from the slave trade but was not greatly involved in bringing them from Africa. To date, the United States’ connection to the trans-Atlantic slave trade has received little scholarly attention. The numbers behind the slave trade largely explain why. Vessels sailing under the American flag carried just 305,000 of the 12.5 million Africans who were forcibly transported through the trans-Atlantic slave trade, less than three percent of the total. The literature on the United States’ involvement in the trade is proportionately small, especially compared to the plethora of works on larger national carriers, such as the Portuguese, British, and French. Jay Coughtry’s The Notorious Triangle (1981) remains the most influential monograph on American merchants’ involvement in the slave trade, but it focuses solely on Rhode Island... © |
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Hey Serk,
See if you can get me the name from this guys badge.
First, I think that I know him and Second I'd like to know if he's still employed.
When Kapernick first started the kneeling crap it was made very clear to us that if anyone did it at a NASCAR track that they would be immediately escorted from the property.
That was Kirk Price. It seems he had the black power fist during the prayer, and did a kneeling salute thing during the anthem, best as I can tell.  https://www.phillytrib.com/sports/meet-kirk-price-the-nascar-official-who-took-a-knee-during-the-national-anthem/article_c9da226d-caf2-55a9-a074-71905eee6281.htmlAlso, NASCAR has evidently changed their rules to allow protest during the anthem: https://racingnews.co/2020/06/12/nascar-now-allows-kneeling-during-the-national-anthem/ |
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit... Is that during the anthem? None of the crew mwmbers have a hand over the heart but heads bowed. It looks like it is during prayer. Wait till they figure out slave ships were flying US Flags.
Most if not all of the slave ships sailed under British flags. The colonies (and U.S.) benefited from the slave trade but was not greatly involved in bringing them from Africa. Sure British ships brought the slaves to the continent, it was a British colony. New Englanders brought the slaves to the continent on American ships after that. |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. toyota pushrod engine to public? 2007 thru 2020 5.7L V8 in the tundra What series engine would that be ? Both the UR and I-Force are DOHC engines. [I used to own a Tundra, Land Cruiser, Highlander, never again.] I see Toyota is supposedly coming out with a 5.9L pushrod engine. As far as I know Toyota never offered to the public a 5.7L [ 355 cu in] pushrod engine as is supposedly required by NASCAR. So if they do make one I'd like to know which series it is. No one else I've talked to knows. If they do offer one to the public then I guess they are not cheating. I had a 2005 Tundra and put 250k on it. I now have a 2017 Tundra and a 2002 highlander and s 2015 sienna. Whats so wrong with toyotas? I had a '76 Cruiser with the forgery of the Chevy Stove Bolt. The Chevy was OK, the Toyota fake was not. But a Chevy small block bolted right in, well almost right in. The main problem with those vehicles was that you could hear them rust. So i said never again. But like a jerk I thought maybe they were building good vehicles by 2001. So I bought a 2001 Tundra and 2001 Highlander together. I had one of the first Tundra rusted thru frames [ Toyota refused any responsibility]. It went thru 44 front tires in 18K miles [ they again refused to fix it] They had come out with new control arm bushings to correct that issue. While talking [ actually arguing] with the idiot factory rep, the parts mgr [ we knew each other] set a bag with the new revised bushings on the counter, winked, and said he'd be back from lunch in a half hour and pushed the bag toward me. I took them and installed them and aligned the truck with no more issues. The final straw, It went thru 3 engines in 30K miles and Toyota then refused to install another engine. These V8 engines at that time were famous for the rings freezing in the pistons and tearing up the cylinders. I changed the oil with Mobil 1 every 3-4K miles. I took a beating getting rid of it. The Highlander was bought for Joann. I mentioned to the facility owner that the V6 was a bad engine and I didn't want it. He assured me they were good and only had issues with those not maintained. Like a fool we got a V6. At 60K it started burning oil and skipping/missfiring. Toyota refused to fix it as it was just past 60K warranty. They tried to claim it wasn't maintained. i removed the front valve cover and it was as clean as a whistle. By 80K it was running on 3 cylinders. Again Mobil1 every 3K. I took another beating getting rid of it. Most folks swear by their Toyotas. I swear at them. Of course most folks tell me I'm crazy and say they make great vehicles, 2 of those folks are now having troubles with their Camry's and Toyota refuses anything. One went and bought a Buick and the other is still arguing. While I was still working part of my job was dealing with garages and factory reps. Toyota reps were [ maybe still are] the worst. Since then I've been thru Ford and Dodges with no real issues. I've been using Mobil 1 since the 70s. No more Toyota's for me. |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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Pappy!
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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2020, 07:34:56 PM » |
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This house has been NFL -Free since the first kneel.
I agree about Nascar as well. When the ticket prices went out of sight and they no longer allowed a cooler with a couple "Daddypops" in it to be brought in the downward spiral began.
Nascar was never politically correct in it's heyday nor are a lot of it's fans. They are losing a core group of supporters whether or not they are smart enough to realize it.
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« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2020, 05:01:11 AM » |
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Patrick has a point, if I had those issues which I have had with Chevy cars and trucks, I would never own one again either and as of 2007, has not been in a newer Chevy anything since. My chevy silverados things inside kept falling off of them (mostly plastic parts) or 4wd went out under 3/36K warranty and my way back when new chevy cavalier in the early 1990s I bought for 9K brand new stripped to the bone 2.2L 4 banger went thru an engine in 1st 20K miles in shop 20 times before replacing engine horrible knocking noise inside and sold it soon after vowed never to own another 4 cylinder chevy anything ever since 1993. Unfortunate for you, but ever since 2008 buying a new 2007 tundra have not looked at another chevy or ford or dodge truck anything. Knock on wood though, but as you, my 2007 tundra 1st year totally new redesign everything made, had its share of rust issues for sure but got those bugs worked out and ever since then, my other 3 tundras were much much better. |
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