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« on: June 27, 2020, 03:11:58 PM » |
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This afternoon MIL mentioned she had a couple leaks downstairs .
One was fairly standard, replace the sinkdrain and Ptrap for the kitchen sink.
The other was fixing some work I had done a couple weeks ago (cold water supply to said kitchen sink). Behind the (new) water heater.
I'm getting a little old to be doing contortion work - especially re-doing it....
After assessing the 2 situations, off to Lowes for parts . $60 later, I get it all back together (and not leaking this time (I hope)).
I am not a fan of PVC / CPVC for supply (much prefer to use PEX). OTOH - redoing the entire house in PEX is not going to be cheap and is going to take a significant amount of effort (even if I can do it myself after I get a crimping tool).
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Valkorado
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2020, 03:35:17 PM » |
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You sound like a wonderful son in law. I hope she bakes you a pie. Or something.  |
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2020, 04:59:09 PM » |
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This afternoon MIL mentioned she had a couple leaks downstairs .
One was fairly standard, replace the sinkdrain and Ptrap for the kitchen sink.
The other was fixing some work I had done a couple weeks ago (cold water supply to said kitchen sink). Behind the (new) water heater.
I'm getting a little old to be doing contortion work - especially re-doing it....
After assessing the 2 situations, off to Lowes for parts . $60 later, I get it all back together (and not leaking this time (I hope)).
I am not a fan of PVC / CPVC for supply (much prefer to use PEX). OTOH - redoing the entire house in PEX is not going to be cheap and is going to take a significant amount of effort (even if I can do it myself after I get a crimping tool).
I didn't know PVC was used for supply lines. I've only seen copper and PEX . |
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scooperhsd
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 05:05:10 PM » |
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Our house is using PVC for drains / sewer, and CPVC for supply (except in some places where it is metal of some type (copper / galvanized). You could use PVC for "cold" but need CPVC for hot.
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Patrick
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2020, 06:25:13 PM » |
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I hope she does build you a pie for all that work.
I happen to like using CPVC. When PEX first came out we installed a lot of it and then the problems started. It all had to be replaced, the fittings were junk. the tube seemed to be OK but the fittings failed so it gave me a bad taste. Redoing several homes for free is expensive. But for going thru walls it works nice, its easy to work with, even color coded.
Last year I replumbed the florida place and used CPVC.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 07:56:54 AM » |
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Everyone's experiance is different. I apparently used good fittings when I converted my NC house from the grey polybutulene (the stuff that really had bad fittings - big lawsuits on this) to PEX. I like PEX because it's more flexible than CPVC (easier for a homeowner to work with) and I don't have to mess with nasty primers / adhesives (did plenty of that in NC since I also had an Inground pool). I'm not going to say one is better than the other - just one is my preference for working with. But when it comes to repairs - you usually want fast and as cheap as possible (as long as it will do the job if installed correctly) - and that usually means making the repair with what is already in place.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2020, 08:19:27 AM » |
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The house I built in 1980 was 100% cpvc and abs. Never had a leak in either one. In my remodeling career I ran into everything but I really like copper now. Biggest complaint about plumbing for me is having to go into a crawl space to do the work. I’ve been under some houses that didn’t have enough space to roll over so you pretty much had to start out on your back and inch your way in.
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Patrick
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2020, 11:53:51 AM » |
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Everyone's experiance is different. I apparently used good fittings when I converted my NC house from the grey polybutulene (the stuff that really had bad fittings - big lawsuits on this) to PEX. I like PEX because it's more flexible than CPVC (easier for a homeowner to work with) and I don't have to mess with nasty primers / adhesives (did plenty of that in NC since I also had an Inground pool). I'm not going to say one is better than the other - just one is my preference for working with. But when it comes to repairs - you usually want fast and as cheap as possible (as long as it will do the job if installed correctly) - and that usually means making the repair with what is already in place.
Yep , agree. Like I mentioned the early PEX I thought was a royal PITA because of the defective fittings and all the different brands that wouldn't inter-mix. For running thru stud walls it works great. My re-modelling partner [ a lot younger] is a PEX fan and he is starting to convert me to it since most will inter-mix and there are no more problems with it. He also swears by Shark-bite, I haven't come around to them though, won't use 'em. I'll still solder. |
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Patrick
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 12:06:46 PM » |
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The house I built in 1980 was 100% cpvc and abs. Never had a leak in either one. In my remodeling career I ran into everything but I really like copper now. Biggest complaint about plumbing for me is having to go into a crawl space to do the work. I’ve been under some houses that didn’t have enough space to roll over so you pretty much had to start out on your back and inch your way in.
I guess we are of the age. No more crawl spaces. I've had to breast stroke my way around in some, takes 5 times longer to get anything done. Plus you never know what type of critters you'll swim into. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2020, 12:16:10 PM » |
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When we were building our house (2008 -2012 time frame), I began to watch Holmes on Homes. One of the things he was high on was PEX and the use of a manifold to control water distribution.
Since plumbing was not my speciality and to make sure we got the codes covered, I had the PEX work hired out along with the waste water.
The team doing the PEX install were very keen on the tool I had for clamping down the fittings. To me, it was just the best and only tool for the job, but that may not be the case for all installers (they were a local team some maybe it was extra cost).
Last year, forget why, but had someone come into inspect water supply. He commented on the lack of valves under the sink in the kitchen for shutting off the water supply. I showed him the manifold and.....
Yes I would agree I think PEX is the best. Still got some upstairs just in case.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2020, 07:25:13 PM » |
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yah, plumbing /water and me do not mix.
doing odd jobs is always fun as well. Some 10 or so years ago age 40ish kid wanted a ceiling fan in the attic crawl space (mount) going into her bedroom. I had to crawl into the attic to mount the bracket to mount the ceiling fan in the middle of her bedroom downstairs. Last time I crawled (actually walked last time up there bending over) was in my mid 20's much easier to do some 15 years earlier and 75lbs. lighter. I was afraid one bad crawling some 10 feet over not hitting the 2x4's would surely fall thru the 1/2 inch sheetrock am sure of it. Not to mention was HOT up there in the attic as it always is unless in winter then is cold.
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