Calling Out Democrats/Liberals/Progressive

[G-Man]

I need one of you to defend, or at least provide an explanation, for the policies that are leading to 200% increases in shooting and murders over the past  weekends.

Please, I beg you, give me something to explain the murder of 3-year-olds, a 5-year-old, a few 7-year-olds.  All children of color. 

My Dad felt the need to call me to express his concern for his Grandson being out at night as we live 12 miles away from the shooting gallery.

I'm not worried about police as that ratio is MINUSCULE.  I'm worried about the dangerous criminal felons they release from jail and the lack of police protection due to cuts and policy changes for the citizens.  ALL of the Right sided assertions of the repercussions of these policies have come true, but saying I told you so while looking at one of those miniature caskets or the uncontrollable sobbing of family is useless.

Explain to me why none of these Mayors have been recalled or relieved of their positions.  Explain how they can make such policy, have such outcomes, and have no accountability for the human lives lost. 

I'd even welcome Meathead's explanation on this one (can only imagine).

[98valk]

The key to keeping it on that road is capturing a political party that consistently appeals to people’s worst natures. You need a party committed to turning black Americans against white, women against men, gays against straights. You need a party committed to rewarding poverty, bringing in unlimited numbers of poor, uneducated immigrants and defending the unions that make America’s public school system mediocre. A political party that promises to rob Peter to pay Paul, will build a large, corrupt base of takers who will support it to get their share of those ill-gotten gains. No nation ever benefitted from having a large and growing class of parasites leeching off the most productive citizens and not even a nation as rich as America can bear it for long.

The thing that ties all of this together is a corrupt media that can largely control what news the population sees and focuses on. A media that is willing to lie in order to defame those trying to save a nation is useful, but not even necessary. All that really needs to be done is to focus the people on trivia, celebrities and the flaws of those who mean well while the great crimes of the most corrupt are ignored or treated as trivial. When the people are obsessed with minutiae while the country is coming apart at the seams, the media has done their job well.

After this sort of interconnected system is built, the odds shift is in favor of destroying a nation because as Machiavelli once wrote, “And what physicians say about disease is applicable here: that at the beginning a disease is easy to cure but difficult to diagnose; but as time passes, not having been treated or recognized at the outset, it becomes easy to diagnose but difficult to cure. The same thing occurs in affairs of state; for by recognizing from afar the diseases that are spreading in the state (which is a gift given only to a prudent ruler), they can be cured quickly; but when they are not recognized and are left to grow to the extent that everyone recognizes them, there is no longer any cure.” 
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/09/10/how-to-destroy-america-from-within-n2216092

[98valk]

black on black crime. wheres BLM and liberals, oh wait white people not involved. move along.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/05/chicago-july-4th-mass-shooting-teen-killed/

[Patrick]

Only 12 murders in NYC this weekend, murder rate up 250%.
Only 14 murders in Chicago this weekend, murder rate up 400%.

Yep, nothing to worry about at all.

Rudy Gulliani was a liberal democrat that ran on the republican ticket and became the best mayor NYC ever had, at least within my lifetime. Proper policing works. I worked NYC before, during and after Mayor Rudy. Bring him back. He maintained his republican stance after he left office.

I think 'Walkaway' continues to gain new members. GOOD.

[Patrick]

In our small upstate town of 11,000 that has been democratically controlled for the past 30-40 yrs there has been an apparent recent change. The recent 'protests' have been put down by the locals and a recent vote was overwhelmingly in favor of hiring 2 additional police officers. I sure hope this becomes highly contagious. The Back the Blue parties have been a success.

[Robert]

All this seems pretty obvious to me maybe if everyone would follow the cash then it would be obvious to everyone. Those in control and up for election, dont care about us. They dont care who gets hurt, they only care about the money and power. The supporters will never admit it and unfortunately may be blind to it.

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Really, I mean really? Im sure they just all wanted Joe, or maybe the real truth is they contributed to BLM.

Very sad that a political party makes money on the destruction of the very country and people they are supposed to protect.

[..]

An 8 year old girl.

8

https://www.dailywire.com/news/atlanta-mayor-on-death-of-8-year-old-girl-we-are-doing-each-other-more-harm-than-any-police-officer-on-this-force

Why isn't the Mayor of Atlanta Resigning over this awful MURDER.

Oh that's right she's a Democrat and Liberal. One who doesn't take responsibility for allowing the "peaceful" protesters to roam the streets.

The same scenario being seen across the Democrat and Liberal cities of this country.

A group of pandering cowards who seem to be only interested in retaining their government jobs.

They should be ashamed. As should the MANY who voted for them.

38 CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS  of peaceful protesters looting business's in Portland Oregon.

Another bastion of Democrat Liberal values.

[Moonshot_1]

An 8 year old girl.

8

https://www.dailywire.com/news/atlanta-mayor-on-death-of-8-year-old-girl-we-are-doing-each-other-more-harm-than-any-police-officer-on-this-force

Why isn't the Mayor of Atlanta Resigning over this awful MURDER.

Oh that's right she's a Democrat and Liberal. One who doesn't take responsibility for allowing the "peaceful" protesters to roam the streets.

The same scenario being seen across the Democrat and Liberal cities of this country.

A group of pandering cowards who seem to be only interested in retaining their government jobs.

They should be ashamed. As should the MANY who voted for them.

38 CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS  of peaceful protesters looting business's in Portland Oregon.

Another bastion of Democrat Liberal values.

Well, she's halfway there.

The intense shooting and crimes in these communities have been on-going for a long time. Law enforcement is expected to go into these environments to do their job. These are obviously hostile environments. Not only for Law enforcement but the law abiding residents as well. Yet the politicians like the mayor here, expect law enforcement to play strictly by Queensbury rules and allow the dregs in the community to have no rules.

Well, it don't work like that.

[Patrick]

An 8 year old girl.

8

https://www.dailywire.com/news/atlanta-mayor-on-death-of-8-year-old-girl-we-are-doing-each-other-more-harm-than-any-police-officer-on-this-force

Why isn't the Mayor of Atlanta Resigning over this awful MURDER.

Oh that's right she's a Democrat and Liberal. One who doesn't take responsibility for allowing the "peaceful" protesters to roam the streets.

The same scenario being seen across the Democrat and Liberal cities of this country.

A group of pandering cowards who seem to be only interested in retaining their government jobs.

They should be ashamed. As should the MANY who voted for them.

38 CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS  of peaceful protesters looting business's in Portland Oregon.

Another bastion of Democrat Liberal values.

Well, she's halfway there.

The intense shooting and crimes in these communities have been on-going for a long time. Law enforcement is expected to go into these environments to do their job. These are obviously hostile environments. Not only for Law enforcement but the law abiding residents as well. Yet the politicians like the mayor here, expect law enforcement to play strictly by Queensbury rules and allow the dregs in the community to have no rules.

Well, it don't work like that.

Some of these democrat mayors have pulled the police out of these areas. Can't remember if the Atlanta mayor did though.

[f6john]

I guess the Democrats,liberals,progressives are all out riding. I have found most of them more than willing to jump on an expressed opinion of others but really clam up when asked to explain themselves. Such is the nature of the beast.

[Willow]

So G-man posts an entry titled "Calling Out Democrats/Liberals/Progressive".  So far no one who has posted in the thread seems to meet that description.  Are we all so driven that we just can't help ourselves from piling on?   

[The emperor has no clothes]

So G-man posts an entry titled "Calling Out Democrats/Liberals/Progressive".  So far no one who has posted in the thread seems to meet that description.  Are we all so driven that we just can't help ourselves from piling on?   

maybe. The real question (to me anyway) is why do some here continually ask for opinions and then get pissed when they get them ?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'd even welcome Meathead's explanation on this one (can only imagine).

I find that hard to believe, but I will take you at your word. Your analysis is flawed to begin with. Just because someone is a “democrat/liberal/progressive” doesn’t mean they support every policy that comes out from that side. To give a more thorough explanation I would need specific policies/laws that you are referring to.

[f6john]

So G-man posts an entry titled "Calling Out Democrats/Liberals/Progressive".  So far no one who has posted in the thread seems to meet that description.  Are we all so driven that we just can't help ourselves from piling on?   

Guilty as charged.

[Patrick]

Well, if we didn't 'pile on' this would be boring wouldn't it since only one of our resident liberals responded so far. And Meat responded to our responses.

[Moonshot_1]

So G-man posts an entry titled "Calling Out Democrats/Liberals/Progressive".  So far no one who has posted in the thread seems to meet that description.  Are we all so driven that we just can't help ourselves from piling on?   

When I was young and stupid I voted for Carter. Does that count?

[F6Dave]

To give a more thorough explanation I would need specific policies/laws that you are referring to.

Why not keep this simple and answer a single, revealing question:  Which presidential candidate will you choose in November?

[G-Man]

To give a more thorough explanation I would need specific policies/laws that you are referring to.

Why not keep this simple and answer a single, revealing question:  Which presidential candidate will you choose in November?

Who cares?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'd even welcome Meathead's explanation on this one (can only imagine).

I find that hard to believe, but I will take you at your word. Your analysis is flawed to begin with. Just because someone is a “democrat/liberal/progressive” doesn’t mean they support every policy that comes out from that side. To give a more thorough explanation I would need specific policies/laws that you are referring to.

I should have known that you'd answer with complete B.S.

Thanks for playing. 

So, you didn’t really want a response. Just more of your political division posting. (I don’t find that hard to believe)

[..]

The Mayor of Atlanta has suddenly (how else) become asymptomatic for the plague.

How convenient as crap is happening  and the Governor declares a state of emergency she has to hole up for 2 weeks.

[Oss]

According to the Serkle quiz that was posted a few years ago by the lanky Texan,  I was a Conservative,Libertarian although I have been a registered Democrat my adult life.

I want federal state and local government to leave me and my family the heck alone as much as possible while it secures our borders and freedoms

Life  Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness   

I will vote Trump even though I cant stand his tweets.  He has our interest *not chinas
at heart and is giving up his life to help us   Worthy of my respect

[Bighead]

Oss no one actually likes his tweets but he is just keeping the MSM distracted with them is all they are about.

[Savago]

@G-Man: since you asked...

In my view, both parties play the song that will please the majority of the audience.

As an example, Dems will go for gun control (really gun confiscation) and GOP will go for pro-life policies (really restricting poor women to have access to birth control).

The laws are written by ignorant people on the subject (i.e. Dems known poop about guns, the same goes for the old male uneducated GOP politicians understanding on how a women's body works).

The laws therefore crafted fail to address the problems at the root, but win votes for the politicians.

The whole thing is that politicians only care for grabbing and holding the power. They will promise one thing and do what is more convenient for them later on.

Regarding accountability: I learned after a couple years that the USA has a 2 doors justice system. One for the rich/influential and the other for the poor/unconnected.

Calling for resignation of those mayors is nice on paper, but we should have already learned that we can only effectively remove bad/incompetent politicians through voting.

These are my 2cs and they are worthy exactly that.

[98valk]

@G-Man: since you asked...

In my view, both parties play the song that will please the majority of the audience.

As an example, Dems will go for gun control (really gun confiscation) and GOP will go for pro-life policies (really restricting poor women to have access to birth control).

The laws are written by ignorant people on the subject (i.e. Dems known poop about guns, the same goes for the old male uneducated GOP politicians understanding on how a women's body works).

The laws therefore crafted fail to address the problems at the root, but win votes for the politicians.

The whole thing is that politicians only care for grabbing and holding the power. They will promise one thing and do what is more convenient for them later on.

Regarding accountability: I learned after a couple years that the USA has a 2 doors justice system. One for the rich/influential and the other for the poor/unconnected.

Calling for resignation of those mayors is nice on paper, but we should have already learned that we can only effectively remove bad/incompetent politicians through voting.

These are my 2cs and they are worthy exactly that.

did u see your state just banned ALL diesel delivery trucks in the state? only electric is allowed.   everything you buy will triple in price, maybe more.
of course one of their reasons is the smog in LA.   maybe they should learn history, oh wait they destroy history, anyway, the Native Americans called the LA valley the Valley of Smoke, long before those evil men and their automobiles were there, because smog is natural to the area, yet people in power have used it against the people and lied about smog.  Same on east coast why the Smokey mtns are called Smokey, its natural smog.
Enjoy.

[Bighead]

@G-Man: since you asked...

In my view, both parties play the song that will please the majority of the audience.

As an example, Dems will go for gun control (really gun confiscation) and GOP will go for pro-life policies (really restricting poor women to have access to birth control).

The laws are written by ignorant people on the subject (i.e. Dems known poop about guns, the same goes for the old male uneducated GOP politicians understanding on how a women's body works).

The laws therefore crafted fail to address the problems at the root, but win votes for the politicians.

The whole thing is that politicians only care for grabbing and holding the power. They will promise one thing and do what is more convenient for them later on.

Regarding accountability: I learned after a couple years that the USA has a 2 doors justice system. One for the rich/influential and the other for the poor/unconnected.

Calling for resignation of those mayors is nice on paper, but we should have already learned that we can only effectively remove bad/incompetent politicians through voting.

These are my 2cs and they are worthy exactly that.

Restricting birth control? Really? It is about abortion. Unprotected sex is a choice.  So dont even start that debate the more bastard children born to an unwed mother the more money she gets each month. That is what they look at.  Birth control is readily available to anyone who wants/ needs it for free.  So dont even bring that BS to the table. Cant get to the health dept? How can you get to the polls to vote?  It is a choice PERIOD!  Go find something else to Bring to this table it is all horseshit.

[Savago]

Unprotected sex is a choice.

Have you ever heard of something called rape?

Another thing: except vasectomy/tube ligation (both permanent IIRC), there are no 100% proof method to avoid accidental conception.

[Oss]

Savago you know how much it pisses me off to agree with you

(not really) Vasectomy is not 100% until after the test shows no swimmers



We call them surprises in our family, everyone likes a surprise, accidents, well who wants
to be told they were an accident

A woman has a right to choose, but no right is absolute

At some point the life in the womb will get its due. At some point partial birth abortions and abortion to punish the husband will be different. When I do not know. And so many want to adopt why is that not something planned parenthood offers as an option?  Oh yeah they were founded to kill blacks.

But no protest against them, just police and white people.   Egads

This and other hot topic or hot button issues will always be the fodder for the political parties to divide us.  There is too much money at stake and too much power at risk.

It is up to us to show RESPECT for others and ourselves.

That is the starting point.

Oss

[Jess from VA]

IMHO, liberal and democrat policies cannot possibly be explained, so calling them out to explain them is counterproductive.

Ask the New York Times to explain them (or write Joe Biden or Nancy).  I'm sure that will be productive.  

[DirtyDan]

IMHO, liberal and democrat policies cannot possibly be explained, so calling them out to explain them is counterproductive.

Ask the New York Times to explain them (or write Joe Biden or Nancy).  I'm sure that will be productive.  

Got to thank social security

Is that liberal/democrat ?

Dan

[G-Man]

Unprotected sex is a choice.

Have you ever heard of something called rape?

Another thing: except vasectomy/tube ligation (both permanent IIRC), there are no 100% proof method to avoid accidental conception.

Rape and "accidental", you left out incest too, account for less than 0.1% of unwanted pregnancies. 

[G-Man]

@G-Man: since you asked...

In my view, both parties play the song that will please the majority of the audience.

As an example, Dems will go for gun control (really gun confiscation) and GOP will go for pro-life policies (really restricting poor women to have access to birth control).

The laws are written by ignorant people on the subject (i.e. Dems known poop about guns, the same goes for the old male uneducated GOP politicians understanding on how a women's body works).

The laws therefore crafted fail to address the problems at the root, but win votes for the politicians.

The whole thing is that politicians only care for grabbing and holding the power. They will promise one thing and do what is more convenient for them later on.

Regarding accountability: I learned after a couple years that the USA has a 2 doors justice system. One for the rich/influential and the other for the poor/unconnected.

Calling for resignation of those mayors is nice on paper, but we should have already learned that we can only effectively remove bad/incompetent politicians through voting.

These are my 2cs and they are worthy exactly that.

Restricting birth control? Really? It is about abortion. Unprotected sex is a choice.  So dont even start that debate the more bastard children born to an unwed mother the more money she gets each month. That is what they look at.  Birth control is readily available to anyone who wants/ needs it for free.  So dont even bring that BS to the table. Cant get to the health dept? How can you get to the polls to vote?  It is a choice PERIOD!  Go find something else to Bring to this table it is all horseshit.

Unfortunately, he's right for calling abortion birth control.  In this country, it is exactly what it has become, another form of birth control.  No need to stop in the heat of the moment to get or use a condom.  No need to get out of bed the next day to go get the "morning after pill".  No need for forethought to get actual birth control to stop conception.  If anything happens, just make an appointment, pay the fee, or society will pay the fee.

[Alberta Patriot]

I only have questions...How do those who lean 'progressive' here defend the indefensible??
If all black lives matter, why do the black folks who disagree with BLM get attacked and sometimes shot? Why are there no police protecting these 'progressive run' communities if black lives matter so much?

[Patrick]

@G-Man: since you asked...

In my view, both parties play the song that will please the majority of the audience.

As an example, Dems will go for gun control (really gun confiscation) and GOP will go for pro-life policies (really restricting poor women to have access to birth control).

The laws are written by ignorant people on the subject (i.e. Dems known poop about guns, the same goes for the old male uneducated GOP politicians understanding on how a women's body works).

The laws therefore crafted fail to address the problems at the root, but win votes for the politicians.

The whole thing is that politicians only care for grabbing and holding the power. They will promise one thing and do what is more convenient for them later on.

Regarding accountability: I learned after a couple years that the USA has a 2 doors justice system. One for the rich/influential and the other for the poor/unconnected.

Calling for resignation of those mayors is nice on paper, but we should have already learned that we can only effectively remove bad/incompetent politicians through voting.

These are my 2cs and they are worthy exactly that.

Restricting birth control? Really? It is about abortion. Unprotected sex is a choice.  So dont even start that debate the more bastard children born to an unwed mother the more money she gets each month. That is what they look at.  Birth control is readily available to anyone who wants/ needs it for free.  So dont even bring that BS to the table. Cant get to the health dept? How can you get to the polls to vote?  It is a choice PERIOD!  Go find something else to Bring to this table it is all horseshit.

Unfortunately, he's right for calling abortion birth control.  In this country, it is exactly what it has become, another form of birth control.  No need to stop in the heat of the moment to get or use a condom.  No need to get out of bed the next day to go get the "morning after pill".  No need for forethought to get actual birth control to stop conception.  If anything happens, just make an appointment, pay the fee, or society will pay the fee.

Fees for birth control ?  Naa. Thats Planned Parenthoods main reason for its existence. Abortion !
Its existence comes from donations from big business and some private donations, but, its main income comes from $500,000,000.00 of tax payers money every year. Its main business is abortion. Just walk in, thats all there is to it. Last I knew they did 300,000/yr.

[Patrick]

IMHO, liberal and democrat policies cannot possibly be explained, so calling them out to explain them is counterproductive.

Ask the New York Times to explain them (or write Joe Biden or Nancy).  I'm sure that will be productive.  

Oh, they don't want to hear any of that.
Just listen to what they have said in the past and ask them about it. Any the 'real' reporters that are left that ask such questions get ignored or the subject changed. Every notice how accomplished a political is at changing a subject. biden, pelosi, schumer, etc have all changed their positions from 10-20-30 years ago. Ask them to explain why.

biden is a joke. In his 47 years as a professional politician try to name anything that he has accomplished except make himself and his family some of the richest in the country. His positions change with the wind. He has been on the wrong/failed side of every issue.
The only accomplishment I can credit to biden is that he still owns the '67 Corvette his in-laws bought him.