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Author Topic: Safe to ride on this tire? (non-Valkyrie)  (Read 1736 times)
BINOVC
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« on: July 23, 2020, 03:40:27 PM »

Non-Valkyrie, but this is where I go for the best advice!
My son got a screwdriver shank through the sidewall, which did not penetrate the inside of the tire.  Any feedback on if this compromised the tire?  No idea how close it came to the belts...
Bike is an Indian Scout, tire is a Kenda "K673" 150/80-16 71H.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 03:48:28 PM »

JMO: When in doubt, swap it out.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2020, 04:06:25 PM »

For the price of a new tire.............................
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Bighead
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2020, 04:13:15 PM »

If it were me a new one would be put on.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 04:36:19 PM »

Ditto on the replies! (REPLACE) Happened to me once 50 miles from home. Didn't leak air, and made it home. Next morning it had 3" goose egg growing on it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2020, 04:59:51 PM »

        When I was still drivin big truck a rod or a bolt or a screwdriver in the sidewall was a sectional rebuild BUT we are talkin 1100-24.5 here versus a M/C tire. REPLACE Repeat REPLACE. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2020, 07:41:14 PM »

I did the same with an allen wrench. Had to drive it 60 miles to replace the tire. Honda mechanics said as long as it held air, keep an eye on it And ride it. I was 1,800 miles from home and had them change it. Often wondered if it would have been ok but can’t imagine enjoying the ride home thinking about it if I hadn’t changed it.

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2020, 08:19:20 PM »

I believe any sidewall puncture is (or should be) a death sentence.  

The tread is tough on the bottom (assuming you have tread left), but skinny on the sides.

Especially not good on a heavy bike.

And no shop will fix a sidewall injury (liability).  
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CoreyP
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2020, 11:17:01 PM »

Oh Hell no........Get a new tire. Tires are your most important thing on the bike. Also the wheels.

Wheels roll and don't fall off, tires stick everything else is fairly unimportant. Nice to have brakes that work but really not much else will kill you if it fails.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 05:21:51 AM »

I would not call that a puncture since it is not leaking air.

If a paper clip were in-bedded in the tire you would simply pull it out and go on with your business.

Look at this as simply the same thing, only a greater degree.

I'd just pull it out, be glad it wasn't worse, and not leaking air, and ride.

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 06:31:35 AM »

The force it took to "drive" that blade thru the tire probably compromised the tires safety. REPLACE!
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 05:01:13 PM »

I'm going with Ricky-D.

But, if it was me riding the bike, watch it for leaking air. Better yet, for everyone too, get a TPMS on your bike. You all talk about changing out a $200 MC tire, but how often do you check your pressure, and wouldn't a $65 TPMS be cheap insurance for safety.



Now, if it was my Valkyrie, with the wife on the back, I would think twice about it. I think in this case, a good time to buy a spare rim and mount a car tire on it and swap it out. See how the tire holds air 1-2 years later, or swap off the tires and inspect the removed one form the inside.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 06:21:58 PM »

I’d remove the metal piece. Then an extensive leak test. No bubbles underwater I think I’d run it
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BINOVC
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2020, 07:13:49 AM »

Removed the metal and observed (sprayed water/soap mixture), no leak.
Son will keep riding and closely monitoring that spot.
I've personally repaired several MC tires with actual nail/what-not punctures (using Dynaplug) with no ill effects.
Appreciate the feedback all.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2020, 08:04:26 AM »

    Looks from the angle that it probably never even cut through the outer belt.     
     I'd keep an eye on it for a while, but it looks like it caused no harm other than a little superficial rubber damage.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2020, 08:38:01 AM »

The Kenda "Kruz" tires that come on the Scout aren't suitable for any more than rolling it out of the dealership. They're like riding on two wooden hoops. Bar none the worst tires I've ever experienced on any bike, particularly considering they were OE fitment. I didn't even make it 1000 miles before they went in the bin and I put Metzeler's on mine- first time I found a tire so awful I didn't even bother to wear it out.

They changed to Pirelli's as OE fitment a year or two ago, since people thought it was kind of crappy a $13k "premium" cruiser came with $70 bargain bin tires.

I'd take this as a great excuse to just upgrade the tires anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2020, 08:23:14 AM »

 Looking at the photo it seems it missed the inner tube (what the tire liner is) but if you were to leave the object in the tire and dis mount , I would bet the bump would be felt on the inside.
  On a motorcycle a tire is only 50% of ground contact. Bets on?

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2020, 09:46:30 AM »


how often do you check you pressure

(Almost?) everytime I ride. On multi-day rides I don't check it everyday,
so there's a window...

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