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« on: August 01, 2020, 12:33:53 AM » |
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Valk, standard, 2001 , 155 000 km
Hello, folks!
Twice yesterday I had to "play" a bit with kick stand to gt my bike started. If mention switch is the problem, will it work to "short cut" the wires to the swicth and then the bike will start?
Will it be possible to roll-start the bike if the switch is out of function?
Yes, I know it can be starter switch and some other things, but ...
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 04:23:30 AM » |
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While I've never done so, I believe you could "jump" the wires to make the connection and the bike would start.
I would not run like that except to get home.
The bike will not start if any component in the system is not correct. Roll start will not work.
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LB
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 06:07:16 AM » |
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Absolutely, you can by pass the switch and all will work just fine. I've done it on every bike owned, including the Valkyrie. If the kick stand spring pin breaks, and it has on both the Valkyrie and the VTX, the stand will fall down and shut down the engine. If you're on the interstate or twisties, it will rune your day. I can't think of any reason for that switch in the first place.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2020, 05:40:51 PM » |
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If you're on the interstate or twisties, it will rune your day. I can't think of any reason for that switch in the first place. It's safety thing and a good one in my opinion. Was on a ride with several others one day years ago. We stopped to check a map and the lead guy put his stand down on his older Wing but didn't dismount. He looked at his map for a minute or so and righted the bike with out moving the stand up. Said something to the guys behind him and proceeded to go. Only took a short distance and the stand hit the ground and flipped him to the shoulder. That ruined more than his day and our ride. |
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2020, 06:04:49 PM » |
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If you're on the interstate or twisties, it will rune your day. I can't think of any reason for that switch in the first place. It's safety thing and a good one in my opinion. Was on a ride with several others one day years ago. We stopped to check a map and the lead guy put his stand down on his older Wing but didn't dismount. He looked at his map for a minute or so and righted the bike with out moving the stand up. Said something to the guys behind him and proceeded to go. Only took a short distance and the stand hit the ground and flipped him to the shoulder. That ruined more than his day and our ride. +1, I wouldn't bypass the switch except in an emergency to get home. And if I did, I think I'd bungee up the stand. |
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Relax
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 04:16:41 AM » |
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Is it only two wires to the switch , so its easy to shortcut ?
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 06:01:41 AM » |
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Could just need a little TLC. Most of those swx are in a place that is more likley to get coronation. Some BP blaster or equivalent will take care of it, if nothing is broken. Giving it a good spray and working it a bit with your hand should take care of the issue.
I too normally bypass the swx. I just trained myself to always check for the stand before I start to ride the bike. Just a mental note added to the list of things we do already before we let the clutch out.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2020, 12:21:09 PM » |
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You can see from my picture that the post was forced over, so the post which allows the switch to operate, wasn't. It took a little while to realize that my side stand switch wasn't functional, then time to get to it.
In the end, there are 2 types. Std/tourer are 2 wires, and the IS uses 3 (my Shadow also used the 3 wires, unknown to me, it turned out I had a spare).
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2020, 12:53:00 PM » |
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You can see from my picture that the post was forced over, so the post which allows the switch to operate, wasn't. It took a little while to realize that my side stand switch wasn't functional, then time to get to it.
In the end, there are 2 types. Std/tourer are 2 wires, and the IS uses 3 (my Shadow also used the 3 wires, unknown to me, it turned out I had a spare).
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2020, 06:02:37 AM » |
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Is it only two wires to the switch , so its easy to shortcut ?
Yep, real easy fix... The switch was installed for stupid people. If you can't remember to put the kickstand up, or pull the clutch before starting the thing, you need to find a new hobby. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2020, 09:04:20 AM » |
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Is it only two wires to the switch , so its easy to shortcut ?
Yep, real easy fix... The switch was installed for stupid people. If you can't remember to put the kickstand up, or pull the clutch before starting the thing, you need to find a new hobby. .... and the occasional broken spring....... |
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2020, 11:17:49 AM » |
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Is it only two wires to the switch , so its easy to shortcut ?
Yep, real easy fix... The switch was installed for stupid people. If you can't remember to put the kickstand up, or pull the clutch before starting the thing, you need to find a new hobby. .... and the occasional broken spring....... True... Although I've never heard of a spring breaking, I know of several pins that did. Mine was worn through 60% at 30,000 miles. |
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