Give Ben the boot!

[Jeff K]

67% of Nebraskans oppose health care reform but Ben sold them out anyway?   


http://www.givebentheboot.com


And one for Grayson too


http://www.mycongressmanisnuts.com/

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Aw come on, he's a Senator. He wasn't voted in to be a state "Representitive" after all, those are in the house.  

We need to totally clean the senate and the house out along with the lobbists. I haven't voted for any incumbent much lately.

Raymond

[Jack]

Let's face it, we have the best government money can buy.

[JimL]

67% of Nebraskans oppose health care reform but Ben sold them out anyway?    


http://www.givebentheboot.com


And one for Grayson too


http://www.mycongressmanisnuts.com/

This pattern is similar to what we are seeing across the country.  Overwhelmingly, the American public are adamantly opposed to the enormous cost and intrusive nature of this bill on responsible Americans.  The party in power has the notion that the people do not know what is in their best interest, they feel they have a degree of enlightenment that the majority of responsible Americans don't possess; thus they will have to force this "medicine" on their "children" because ultimately they know what is in their best interest.

This is simply another manifestation an elitist ignorance that has been around for decades and predominately finds its base in the world of academia....you know...an environment where many have never worked a real job.

I suspect that Mr. Nelson will find out later that Nebraskans didn't appreciate having their wishes ignored...as will many other "enlightened" individuals.

[Bob E.]

Overwhelmingly, the American public are adamantly opposed to the enormous cost and intrusive nature of this bill on responsible Americans.  

I sort of both agree and disagree with your statement at the same time.  I disagree because I think that the American public supports reforms to the health insurance/health care industry.  Even the Republicans, who have pretty much pulled out all stops to block this bill, started off saying that they agreed that "something" must be done to control costs, eliminate drops for pre-existing conditions, etc.  However, not everyone agrees how to do it or even knows what should be done.  And when you have an issue such as this that is so broad and so complicated, it is hard to get a majority to agree on anything.  So what you end up with is that you could have a really good idea that satisfies alot of people and really solves a big problem...but unfortunately there will still be a majority that disagrees with it.  Look at this bill for example...both conservatives and liberals hate it because it is either too liberal (if you are a conservative) or not liberal enough (if you are a liberal).  So I do agree that this bill probably fails to satisfy a majority of the public.  And frankly, on an issue as complicated as this, I think crafting legislation that would satisfy a majority of the people is impossible.  So what do you do??  I also agree with the part of your statement about Americans not wanting the enormous costs...because I believe that much of America has become a society of entitlement and they want something for nothing...and many of them have gotten used to just that. 

I honestly don't know what needs done.  But I am all for a major overhaul of the health insurance/health care industry...whatever that might mean.  I think we need it, and I'd be willing to pay for it assuming that my current health care costs would be replaced.  I currently pay $4500/year for my health insurance for me and my family...on top of what my employer pays which is almost triple that.  And that does not include my deductibles and co-pays which can also add up fast.  My fear is that any legislation will need to be so watered down in order to satisfy enough folks to pass it that all we will be left with is all of the costs that end up being even more inflated to buy the votes, but no real benefits because all of the "teeth" have been removed so as not to upset the other folks and their lobbies.  

[JimL]

Overwhelmingly, the American public are adamantly opposed to the enormous cost and intrusive nature of this bill on responsible Americans.  

I sort of both agree and disagree with your statement at the same time.  I disagree because I think that the American public supports reforms to the health insurance/health care industry.  Even the Republicans, who have pretty much pulled out all stops to block this bill, started off saying that they agreed that "something" must be done to control costs, eliminate drops for pre-existing conditions, etc.  However, not everyone agrees how to do it or even knows what should be done.  And when you have an issue such as this that is so broad and so complicated, it is hard to get a majority to agree on anything.  So what you end up with is that you could have a really good idea that satisfies alot of people and really solves a big problem...but unfortunately there will still be a majority that disagrees with it.  Look at this bill for example...both conservatives and liberals hate it because it is either too liberal (if you are a conservative) or not liberal enough (if you are a liberal).  So I do agree that this bill probably fails to satisfy a majority of the public.  And frankly, on an issue as complicated as this, I think crafting legislation that would satisfy a majority of the people is impossible.  So what do you do??  I also agree with the part of your statement about Americans not wanting the enormous costs...because I believe that much of America has become a society of entitlement and they want something for nothing...and many of them have gotten used to just that.  

I honestly don't know what needs done.  But I am all for a major overhaul of the health insurance/health care industry...whatever that might mean.  I think we need it, and I'd be willing to pay for it assuming that my current health care costs would be replaced.  I currently pay $4500/year for my health insurance for me and my family...on top of what my employer pays which is almost triple that.  And that does not include my deductibles and co-pays which can also add up fast.  My fear is that any legislation will need to be so watered down in order to satisfy enough folks to pass it that all we will be left with is all of the costs that end up being even more inflated to buy the votes, but no real benefits because all of the "teeth" have been removed so as not to upset the other folks and their lobbies.  

Bob I don't think you and I disagree at all.  The fact that I along with 60% of the American public (and probably 90% of responsible Americans) strongly oppose this piece of garbage legislation does not suggest that we don't want health reform...nothing could be farther from the truth.  I am all in favor of holding the insurance companies "feet to the fire" by MAKING them compete across state lines.  It would be easy to make it illegal for insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions....we have similar laws that are crafted to prevent other types of corporate misbehavior such as anti-trust, insider trading, collusion, etc.  Republicans have long lobbied for tort reform in order to control costs due to the unnecessary procedures physicians have to order in order to protect themselves from potential lawsuits.  As you well know (Howard Dean even publicly joked about it) Democrats will never do anything to rein in one of their biggest supporters...trial lawyers.

I and many other responsible conservatives would like to take even greater action against ALL corporate abuses, not just the healthcare industry.  I and many others favor enacting legislation which would limit executive compensation for executives of publicly held corporations to a fixed multiple of the average corporate salary.  For example, if the average earnings of an employee at Bank of America was 40K per year, I would enact legislation which would prevent any publicly held corporation from compensating an executive more than 20 times the corporate average (or 800K in this example).

This garbage legislation has nothing to do with health reform, even someone as ignorant as Nancy Pelosi could understand that some of the above examples would go a long way to cleaning up the healtcare industry and corporate america in general.  This legislation is entirely about redistribution of wealth.  

[Doc Moose]

Just another tax plan on the working public with the promise of something for nothing.

[fstsix]

We all agree something Bi partisan needs to be done,but not in some back room deal, but the one thing is for sure, couldn't help myself to do a search on the definition of a Politician, looks like they are just doing their job, has nothing to do with whats right for you or me, no surprise.  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/politician

[f6john]

     It is now completely obvious that the "Health Care bill" how ever and in whatever form it gets passed is being railroaded through for one reason and one reason only. Obama promised health care reform and "change" and he is going to deliver at any cost, and the collective thinking is it has to be done now as they could not put tiogether enough back room deals in 2010 with the mid term elections looming. Of course Obama is not alone in this, the democrats want to be the hero's on the white horse rushing in to save us. There will be some positive things that they will constantly point to to prove the worth of their actions but the real purpose to to "Git her done!!".

[Minnie Miles]

No longer will insurance companies be able to drop your coverage if you become sick and no longer will you have to pay unlimited amounts out of your own pocket for treatments that you need.

[oZ]

Work in a hospital system. We wanted to kick the insurance companies out, have folks pay us directly save 1 out 3 bucks, meaning all 3 dollars would go to the hospital. This alone would account for a 33% cut in health care costs.

State of California says illegal. What B.S. Insurance companies lobbys are too strong to make changes needed.

Obama care would also stop medical research as it has done in Great Britian. Advances in health care will come to a halt. Let's face it Medical Services can be profitable. If they become non-profitable, research and advances will stop. Think of the DMV and the Post Office, that will be the level of performance in a government ran health system.

oZ Out

[gregc]

  Think of anything the goverment has run, social security, medicare, medicaid, post office and amtrack.  They all lost money and need to be bailed out, why would goverment run health care be any different?

[RoadKill]

No longer will insurance companies be able to drop your coverage if you become sick and no longer will you have to pay unlimited amounts out of your own pocket for treatments that you need.

If you dont pay and insurance can not profit...who pays?
  Are the doctors and pharmacists and scientific researchers gonna work free under the new bill?  ARE YOU ?

[Jeff K]

No longer will insurance companies be able to drop your coverage if you become sick and no longer will you have to pay unlimited amounts out of your own pocket for treatments that you need.

And when does that take affect?
2014?
2015?

A lot can and will happen before then.

[JimL]

Obama care would also stop medical research as it has done in Great Britian. Advances in health care will come to a halt. Let's face it Medical Services can be profitable. If they become non-profitable, research and advances will stop. Think of the DMV and the Post Office, that will be the level of performance in a government ran health system.

oZ Out

Absolutely correct!   

[Charlie]

Overwhelmingly, the American public are adamantly opposed to the enormous cost and intrusive nature of this bill on responsible Americans.  

I and many other responsible conservatives would like to take even greater action against ALL corporate abuses, not just the healthcare industry.  I and many others favor enacting legislation which would limit executive compensation for executives of publicly held corporations to a fixed multiple of the average corporate salary.  For example, if the average earnings of an employee at Bank of America was 40K per year, I would enact legislation which would prevent any publicly held corporation from compensating an executive more than 20 times the corporate average (or 800K in this example).

This garbage legislation has nothing to do with health reform, even someone as ignorant as Nancy Pelosi could understand that some of the above examples would go a long way to cleaning up the healtcare industry and corporate america in general.  This legislation is entirely about redistribution of wealth.  

I agree with most of what you said, except, I believe Corporate America is one of the largest supporters of the Republican party, thus, what they want is what the party stands for.  You need to get the Conservatives out of the party and into their own Conservative Party.  If the majority of Americans believe as you say, you might actually see real change with that move.

[Varmintmist]

No longer will insurance companies be able to drop your coverage if you become sick and no longer will you have to pay unlimited amounts out of your own pocket for treatments that you need.

You mean like Medicare, the govt run health plan, does?

Hate to break it to you but they are #1 by percentage of any insurer for denying claims. I know you wont believe me so look it up yourself.

Course the little factiod that everyone seems to miss is that govt already controls 46% of health care dollars in the country. You would think that they could reform a bit with that.

[Minnie Miles]

We have got to show the American people that we can overcome the power of the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry. That's what it's all about.

[JimL]

We have got to show the American people that we can overcome the power of the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry. That's what it's all about.

Who is "We"?  Clearly from your statement "We" and "the American people" are separate entities.  If the "We" refer to the House and Senate and "the American people" are the constituency whose wishes are being ignored...I won't even bother to try to explain to you why this scenario is far more dangerous than any insurance or pharmaceutical company; you couldn't possibly understand the concept. 

When our elective officials blatantly ignore the wishes of their constituency, and "show the American people" what they really need THERE IS NO GREATER DANGER TO OUR REPUBLIC!

[JimC]

Here is one answer that I got sent to me yesterday, I see nothing wrong with at least trying what they propose. It beats the current system.

http://goooh.com/home.aspx

[Minnie Miles]

"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."   Samuel Adams, 1776

[JimL]

"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."   Samuel Adams, 1776

There are those that would interpret Samuel Adams' quote the same way you did, however these fools now live under a repressive dictatorship under the likes of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.  It truly amazes me how people fail to learn from history.

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

Thomas Jefferson

[Minnie Miles]

I just joined GOOOH and made my services avaliable
http://goooh.com/home.aspx

[solo1]

Never fear.  The admnistration is working on creating new jobs with this bill.  Seventeen thousand new Federal jobs will be created when this bill goes into effect.  That's why the taxes come out four years before the "benefits", it gives them time to hire all these new bureaucrats who will be deciding who gets what care and how much.  Look it up, it's true this minute unless there are more amendments by the Dems.

[Minnie Miles]

Any day now, health insurance reform will come up for a vote in the Senate.

We're hearing a lot about what's at stake with this vote for President Obama, the Democrats who are fighting alongside him, and the Republicans who have lined up in opposition.

But let's talk about what's really at stake for America. The Senate health reform bill will:


-- Extend coverage to 31 million Americans, the largest expansion of coverage since the creation of Medicare.

-- Ensure that you can choose your own doctor.

-- Finally stop insurance companies from denying coverage due to a pre-existing condition.

-- Make sure you will never be charged exorbitant premiums on the basis of your age, health, or gender.

-- Guarantee you will never lose your coverage just because you get sick or injured.

-- Protect you from outrageous out-of-pocket expenditures by establishing lifetime and annual limits.

-- Allow young people to stay on their parents' coverage until they're 26 years old.

-- Create health insurance exchanges, or "one-stop shops" for individuals purchasing insurance, where insurance companies are forced to compete for new customers.

-- Lower premiums for families, according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office -- especially for struggling folks who will receive subsidies.

-- Help small businesses provide health care coverage to their employees with tax credits and by allowing them to purchase coverage through the exchanges.

-- Improve and strengthen Medicare by eliminating waste and fraud (without cutting basic benefits), beginning to close the Medicare Part D donut hole, and extending the life of the Medicare trust fund.

-- Create jobs by reining in costs -- fostering competition, reducing waste and inefficiency, and starting to reward doctors and hospitals for quality, not quantity, of care.

-- Cut the deficit by over $130 billion in the next 10 years.


It's a long list. But that's only because this bill represents the most significant health reform our nation has seen since the creation of Medicare.

[Ken Tarver]

this whole health care bill issue isn't about health care reform, it's a POWER AND MONEY grab by the left wing socialist who are in the majority currently running our govt.
socialist can't stand the public having FREEDOM to choose and being in control of making decisions for themselves. when a socialist run govt is in control, the people have no voice, and THAT is what socialist want.

[RoadKill]

The people in Nebraska all want health care,and they want it FREE ! ! !   Ben just gave them what they asked for. Should they vote him out or should we vote ours out for NOT getting the same exemption for our states?   

[PharmBoy]

Minnie, my boy, I am sorry,but you have drank way too much Kool-Aid from the left cost ....JTL

[RoadKill]

Minnie, my boy, I am sorry,but you have drank way too much Kool-Aid from the left cost ....JTL

But,but....but they PROMISED ! !