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« on: August 28, 2020, 03:59:33 AM »

    

        Nancy Pelosi says Joe Biden shouldn't debate Trump
The House speaker said President Trump will "probably act in a way that is beneath the dignity of the presidency.

She knows Joe will act in a way that shows the World he is mentally uncapable to be President.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2020, 04:46:59 AM »

Hillary had to be coached and have an earpiece to debate Trump, I cannot imagine the total failure that Biden would be if it went on. At all costs it cannot happen and any excuse in blaming Trump would work just like the fake Russia collusion.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 05:25:27 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2020, 05:32:32 AM »

I would think Biden would have the balls to debate Trump as he should whether competent or not I might actually watch that debate for once in my life. 

Here is the more scary thought:  If the Presidency does not take office in January and is postponed,  House Speaker Pelosi will become next interim President.   Lord hope if that happens that will not last long.  Pelosi, IMO, is the worst of the 3 by far cannot stand that old bag. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2020, 05:41:01 AM »

I would think Biden would have the balls to debate Trump as he should whether competent or not I might actually watch that debate for once in my life. 

Here is the more scary thought:  If the Presidency does not take office in January and is postponed,  House Speaker Pelosi will become next interim President.   Lord hope if that happens that will not last long.  Pelosi, IMO, is the worst of the 3 by far cannot stand that old bag. 

I fully expect that the election will be contested regardless of the outcome.  It will all stem from mail-in ballots. (I actually whole-heartedly agree with Trump on this issue) If Trump wins, Democrats will claim that people were denied the right to vote due to the changes in the postal service.  If Biden wins, Republicans will claim voter fraud because of mail in ballots.  It's lose-lose.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2020, 05:44:49 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

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Alien

Full agreement on this.   I honestly don't understand how Speaker Pelosi hangs onto her Speakership.
Biden has no choice but to debate and I look forward to that.   I doubt such a debate will change many minds.   Each candidate has their own base and those supporters are not likely to change their opinions, it's those few undecided voters who are going to make the decision on who our next President is.   Those are the important votes.   I strongly encourage all citizens to vote, especially Conservatives.

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2020, 05:48:04 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

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Alien

Full agreement on this.   I honestly don't understand how Speaker Pelosi hangs onto her Speakership.
Biden has no choice but to debate and I look forward to that.   I doubt such a debate will change many minds.   Each candidate has their own base and those supporters are not likely to change their opinions, it's those few undecided voters who are going to make the decision on who our next President is.   Those are the important votes.   I strongly encourage all citizens to vote, especially Conservatives.

An unofficial Public Service Announcement:  The election/vote will take place on November 3rd and 4th, Conservatives should vote on the 3rd of November, Liberals and Progressives should go to their polling place on the 4th.  Wink

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 09:49:30 AM »

         Personally-I want joe to debate Donald J. Trump. Why you may ask? Cuz it would remove All pretense on the part of the deez and show How REALLY incompetent joe actually is. Game set match. BUT I also predict joe Will figure a way out and put harris in the breach. I would also watch if it came to Donald V joe. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2020, 11:06:53 AM »

I would think Biden would have the balls to debate Trump as he should whether competent or not I might actually watch that debate for once in my life. 

Here is the more scary thought:  If the Presidency does not take office in January and is postponed,  House Speaker Pelosi will become next interim President.   Lord hope if that happens that will not last long.  Pelosi, IMO, is the worst of the 3 by far cannot stand that old bag. 

I fully expect that the election will be contested regardless of the outcome.  It will all stem from mail-in ballots. (I actually whole-heartedly agree with Trump on this issue) If Trump wins, Democrats will claim that people were denied the right to vote due to the changes in the postal service.  If Biden wins, Republicans will claim voter fraud because of mail in ballots.  It's lose-lose.

I just hope that whomever wins, wins by a landslide.  Anything less and its going to be an ugly mess.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2020, 11:20:59 AM »

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  Hillary had to be coached and have an earpiece to debate Trump, ...     

I cannot believe this is even allowed! Who/who all are on the other end of that ear piece? It should be a one on one debate, no assistance. You have a response or you don't.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2020, 12:17:21 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Full agreement on this.   I honestly don't understand how Speaker Pelosi hangs onto her Speakership.
Biden has no choice but to debate and I look forward to that.   I doubt such a debate will change many minds.   Each candidate has their own base and those supporters are not likely to change their opinions, it's those few undecided voters who are going to make the decision on who our next President is.   Those are the important votes.   I strongly encourage all citizens to vote, especially Conservatives.

An unofficial Public Service Announcement:  The election/vote will take place on November 3rd and 4th, Conservatives should vote on the 3rd of November, Liberals and Progressives should go to their polling place on the 4th.  Wink

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have you actually met any undecided voters, has anyone? I know I haven’t. They are either Trump haters and would vote for Charlie Manson if he was the democrat candidate, or they are Trump lovers who never question a thing the man has ever done.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2020, 12:49:50 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Full agreement on this.   I honestly don't understand how Speaker Pelosi hangs onto her Speakership.
Biden has no choice but to debate and I look forward to that.   I doubt such a debate will change many minds.   Each candidate has their own base and those supporters are not likely to change their opinions, it's those few undecided voters who are going to make the decision on who our next President is.   Those are the important votes.   I strongly encourage all citizens to vote, especially Conservatives.

An unofficial Public Service Announcement:  The election/vote will take place on November 3rd and 4th, Conservatives should vote on the 3rd of November, Liberals and Progressives should go to their polling place on the 4th.  Wink

Rams
have you actually met any undecided voters, has anyone? I know I haven’t. They are either Trump haters and would vote for Charlie Manson if he was the democrat candidate, or they are Trump lovers who never question a thing the man has ever done.

Actually yes, I know a couple of them as friends and, I'm married to one.   I hate to think the nation's future is all in my spouse's hands.   Undecided

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2020, 12:54:08 PM »

...  If the Presidency does not take office in January and is postponed,  House Speaker Pelosi will become next interim President.   ...

Where do you buy this stuff?
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2020, 01:08:51 PM »

Nancy pelosi.........

The one who tore up our president’s speech ?

Just checking

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2020, 01:12:55 PM »

I would think Biden would have the balls to debate Trump as he should whether competent or not I might actually watch that debate for once in my life. 

Here is the more scary thought:  If the Presidency does not take office in January and is postponed,  House Speaker Pelosi will become next interim President.   Lord hope if that happens that will not last long.  Pelosi, IMO, is the worst of the 3 by far cannot stand that old bag. 

I fully expect that the election will be contested regardless of the outcome.  It will all stem from mail-in ballots. (I actually whole-heartedly agree with Trump on this issue) If Trump wins, Democrats will claim that people were denied the right to vote due to the changes in the postal service.  If Biden wins, Republicans will claim voter fraud because of mail in ballots.  It's lose-lose.

I just hope that whomever wins, wins by a landslide.  Anything less and its going to be an ugly mess.

-RP

Not if she has anything to do with it.


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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2020, 01:47:55 PM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2020, 02:07:34 PM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



I've been in the term limit camp for decades. What folks like you have to realize is that it will take people like Trump, non-establishment types, to get it done. Insanity is said to be doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We've been putting the same political establishment people into office and expecting more ethics and integrity. That is insane.

This is the reason I really like Trump as President. He is not a part of the political establishment and is politically expendable. He can fearlessly go down paths establishment politicians have always feared to tread.

While you can take the media bait and hate or dislike Trump the point is we need more of this dynamic, of electing non-establishment, non-career politicians. Or the insanity continues.

We have to, as voters, demand that this be a part of the political platform of any political party.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2020, 02:13:26 PM »

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  Hillary had to be coached and have an earpiece to debate Trump, ...     

I cannot believe this is even allowed! Who/who all are on the other end of that ear piece? It should be a one on one debate, no assistance. You have a response or you don't.




She probably just told them it was a hearing aid.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2020, 02:14:53 PM »

I think biden actually thinks he can outdebate Trump.

Or he'll just take him out behind the gym and beat the heck out of him.
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2020, 02:46:44 PM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



I've been in the term limit camp for decades. What folks like you have to realize is that it will take people like Trump, non-establishment types, to get it done. Insanity is said to be doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We've been putting the same political establishment people into office and expecting more ethics and integrity. That is insane.

This is the reason I really like Trump as President. He is not a part of the political establishment and is politically expendable. He can fearlessly go down paths establishment politicians have always feared to tread.

While you can take the media bait and hate or dislike Trump the point is we need more of this dynamic, of electing non-establishment, non-career politicians. Or the insanity continues.

We have to, as voters, demand that this be a part of the political platform of any political party.

I'd have to say that folks like you have to understand that Trump couldn't get term limits to pass no matter what.

It's not about Trump, good bad or indifferent.  The problem is that the folks that have the power are not going to vote for term limits and that isn't going to change.

And to be totally honest, I don't think Trump is very good at getting a deal done in his current position.

He may have been successful in some real estate deals, even though he has had to use bankruptcy SIX times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors).

He's failed with China and the bilateral trade deficit rose during Trump’s first two years and is now around the same size as when Trump took office. U.S. goods exports to China have fallen every year since 2017.

He failed with North Korea.  I know everyone else has too, but he sees himself as the deal maker, but hasn't been able to deliver on that too.

I don't mean to go on and on about his failures, there are too many. 

My point is that the president is not the main factor here.  It's based on the people that have the power, will not vote for term limits because they don't want to loose their power and money.


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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2020, 03:18:45 PM »

I said in the Spring that Biden would never debate, and have seen absolutely nothing since to think he will. For months know the insiders have brought out excuse after excuse of why he should not debate, and now the queen has spoken.   His handlers well know that he has at least early onset of dementia and can not put to sentences together with out a     " well you know the thing "
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2020, 03:44:31 PM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



I've been in the term limit camp for decades. What folks like you have to realize is that it will take people like Trump, non-establishment types, to get it done. Insanity is said to be doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We've been putting the same political establishment people into office and expecting more ethics and integrity. That is insane.

This is the reason I really like Trump as President. He is not a part of the political establishment and is politically expendable. He can fearlessly go down paths establishment politicians have always feared to tread.

While you can take the media bait and hate or dislike Trump the point is we need more of this dynamic, of electing non-establishment, non-career politicians. Or the insanity continues.

We have to, as voters, demand that this be a part of the political platform of any political party.

I'd have to say that folks like you have to understand that Trump couldn't get term limits to pass no matter what.

It's not about Trump, good bad or indifferent.  The problem is that the folks that have the power are not going to vote for term limits and that isn't going to change.

And to be totally honest, I don't think Trump is very good at getting a deal done in his current position.

He may have been successful in some real estate deals, even though he has had to use bankruptcy SIX times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors).

He's failed with China and the bilateral trade deficit rose during Trump’s first two years and is now around the same size as when Trump took office. U.S. goods exports to China have fallen every year since 2017.

He failed with North Korea.  I know everyone else has too, but he sees himself as the deal maker, but hasn't been able to deliver on that too.

I don't mean to go on and on about his failures, there are too many. 

My point is that the president is not the main factor here.  It's based on the people that have the power, will not vote for term limits because they don't want to loose their power and money.




Apparently you missed the general point. The point is we need more non-establishment folks in office. Folks like Trump, in the dynamics sense, in the State houses, and US Congress to get us down the path.    Yet instead on focusing on that particular point we go down the trash Trump path.

Perhaps if he had the support, or at least not open opposition, of Democrats in Foreign Policy things would get a lot better a lot quicker. Don't you think that other countries look at the attacks on our own President and hold out for 4 years?
If Trump had a unified government instead of total opposition China's response would have been much different.

But they will wait.
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2020, 03:57:48 PM »

I think you are the one that brought up Trump.

As I stated, "It's not about Trump, good bad or indifferent.  The problem is that the folks that have the power are not going to vote for term limits and that isn't going to change."

So I don't agree that I "trashed Trump"

You appeared to be touting trump as someone who could use unusual methods to get things done.

I don't think speaking the truth about his inability to close a couple of smaller deals ( there are more failures I could mention, but I am not trying to trash him) is actually trashing him.

My point is he simply can't close the big deals that were before him.

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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2020, 04:31:45 PM »

Couldn’t close the deals ?

Maybe too busy winning

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2020, 04:52:31 PM »

Couldn’t close the deals ?

Maybe too busy winning

Dan



Yes, I agree, too busy whining about why some people (even in his own family) don't like him and how in the world can any poll can say anything except how he is leading in every category, and thinking up names to call anybody that says anything bad about him, no matter how true it may be.

And besides all the whining, I think he is too busy telling everyone how whatever he has done is the best, the biggest, the most of any president in history, how he's the only one that can get it done, etc, etc.

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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2020, 05:01:51 PM »

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I don't think speaking the truth about his inability to close a couple of smaller deals ( there are more failures I could mention, but I am not trying to trash him) is actually trashing him.

My point is he simply can't close the big deals that were before him. 

BS.  Your list of "failures" is heavy with your ownunsupported opinion.  Yes, it was indeed trashing the President.  I don't believe you could speak the truth.  You are limited by your own heavily biased viewpoint.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2020, 05:09:03 PM »

Couldn’t close the deals ?

Maybe too busy winning

Dan



Yes, I agree, too busy whining about why some people (even in his own family) don't like him and how in the world can any poll can say anything except how he is leading in every category, and thinking up names to call anybody that says anything bad about him, no matter how true it may be.

And besides all the whining, I think he is too busy telling everyone how whatever he has done is the best, the biggest, the most of any president in history, how he's the only one that can get it done, etc, etc.


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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2020, 07:01:23 PM »

Couldn’t close the deals ?

Maybe too busy winning

Dan



Yes, I agree, too busy whining about why some people (even in his own family) don't like him and how in the world can any poll can say anything except how he is leading in every category, and thinking up names to call anybody that says anything bad about him, no matter how true it may be.

And besides all the whining, I think he is too busy telling everyone how whatever he has done is the best, the biggest, the most of any president in history, how he's the only one that can get it done, etc, etc.



Well, this goes to Leadership.

Imagine you are in the infantry. You are ordered to take a hill.
It is going to be a violent encounter.

Do you want to be led by a confident, optimistic, energetic, go-getter that puts himself out there or

Do you want to be led by someone who says "We can't do it. We're all going to die, We're all going to die"

You got to take that hill. Which one do you wish to follow?

I see great optimism, great energy and confidence in our President. No one claims he is perfect.

I see the greatest of opportunities intentionally scuttled by the Democrats. Done to inflict political harm at the expense of all of us.

And a media that has sold it's soul. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2020, 07:03:05 PM »

Couldn’t close the deals ?

Maybe too busy winning

Dan



Yes, I agree, too busy whining about why some people (even in his own family) don't like him and how in the world can any poll can say anything except how he is leading in every category, and thinking up names to call anybody that says anything bad about him, no matter how true it may be.

And besides all the whining, I think he is too busy telling everyone how whatever he has done is the best, the biggest, the most of any president in history, how he's the only one that can get it done, etc, etc.



Well, this goes to Leadership.

Imagine you are in the infantry. You are ordered to take a hill.
It is going to be a violent encounter.

Do you want to be led by a confident, optimistic, energetic, go-getter that puts himself out there or

Do you want to be led by someone who says "We can't do it. We're all going to die, We're all going to die"

You got to take that hill. Which one do you wish to follow?

I see great optimism, great energy and confidence in our President. No one claims he is perfect.

I see the greatest of opportunities intentionally scuttled by the Democrats. Done to inflict political harm at the expense of all of us.

And a media that has sold it's soul. 

That analogy really doesn't work for your guy....lol
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2020, 04:16:43 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

Alien

If Joe doesn't debate or makes a fool of himself,,, are you still going to vote for him.
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2020, 04:21:40 AM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



Still going to vote for Joe, knowing he is 51 cards short of a full deck.
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2020, 07:43:20 AM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



Still going to vote for Joe, knowing he is 51 cards short of a full deck.





Anyone but Trump huh.
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2020, 07:55:30 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

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If Joe doesn't debate or makes a fool of himself,,, are you still going to vote for him.

This is a good question.  The answer is if he refuses to debate, I will not vote for him.  I could not respect a man who is afraid to match himself against his opponent directly.  If he doesn't do well in the debate, I may or may not vote for him, depending on the actual content.
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2020, 08:18:34 AM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

Alien

If Joe doesn't debate or makes a fool of himself,,, are you still going to vote for him.

This is a good question.  The answer is if he refuses to debate, I will not vote for him.  I could not respect a man who is afraid to match himself against his opponent directly.  If he doesn't do well in the debate, I may or may not vote for him, depending on the actual content.

So, you will vote for Trump.   cooldude
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2020, 08:19:52 AM »

No.  Definetly not.
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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2020, 08:27:21 AM »

No.  Definetly not.

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2020, 08:05:59 PM »

Nancy Pelosi is getting less and less professional.  I promise, many of us Democrats are sick of her antics too.  I'm pretty confident that Biden will debate.  To not do so would be an act of cowardice and would make him unworthy of serious consideration.

Ride Safe,

Alien

If Joe doesn't debate or makes a fool of himself,,, are you still going to vote for him.

This is a good question.  The answer is if he refuses to debate, I will not vote for him.  I could not respect a man who is afraid to match himself against his opponent directly.  If he doesn't do well in the debate, I may or may not vote for him, depending on the actual content.

I can respect that last response.   Alien and I may not agree on a lot of issues but, at least Alien refuses to vote for a coward and I can appreciate that.  Wink

VP Biden IMHO fits that description.   He's bent over backwards to gain the support of every left wing group out there which to me defines his character.   Even as a Registered Democrat, I can't vote for such a person to infect the White House.

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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2020, 03:37:31 PM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



Still going to vote for Joe, knowing he is 51 cards short of a full deck.


Anyone but Trump huh.

Patrick, where in the heck did you get anything about Trump from my post.

I could have sworn we were talking about both Pelosi and McConnell both being more or less unfit to continue in their positions

I never mentioned Trump or Biden.
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2020, 11:02:01 AM »

Pelosi may be a pain in the butt, but McConnell isn't a heck of alot better.

At age 78, he is about as sharp as Joe (maybe less), and has a much worse reputation.  In 2017, he had the highest disapproval rating of ALL senators. And in the polls conducted in 2012 and another in 2016 poll, it was found that McConnell had the lowest home-state approval rating of any sitting senator.

I wish we had term limits for these guys. Too many of them sitting in office for ever and a day, seeking more and more power and money.  Isn't there a saying like "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it's past time for Nancy and Mitch to open the next chapter.



Still going to vote for Joe, knowing he is 51 cards short of a full deck.


Anyone but Trump huh.

Patrick, where in the heck did you get anything about Trump from my post.

I could have sworn we were talking about both Pelosi and McConnell both being more or less unfit to continue in their positions

I never mentioned Trump or Biden.






Comphrehension issues arise again. I wasn't responding to you.
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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2020, 06:54:11 PM »

He really isn't very well.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/biden-makes-no-sense-florida-roundtable-event-rambles-second-floor-ladies-department-video/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons&fbclid=IwAR0MGSI9Ss9cbOsXnYf4tKkV_jtSN9mwDqMZ-wrEfRk3Qh1NnQ5_jG51OAo
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