X Ring
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« on: December 21, 2009, 06:07:33 PM » |
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Took my tank off today to start my cruise control install. While taking the line off the petcock, it turned. So I took the tank over to my tailgate workbench, grabbed a crescent wrench and proceeded to tighten the nut. I was turning the nut and wasn't even applying pressure when the petcock body FELL OFF!!!  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over??? Noticed inside the nut there is a clip with a gap to hold the nut on the body. Stuck the body back in, turned the nut and tried to lightly pull it apart. It stayed together. Attempted to re-install it and the frickin thing fell apart again. I've had it with Honda's stupid  design.  Why couldn't they have used a simple mechanical design like they used on the Shadows. Well, I won't have to worry about it anymore. I ordered a Pingel 1311-CH from Eastern Performance for $89.95 shipped. Should be here next Monday. The weird part is I was supposed to go to a buddy's house Friday night and we were going to spend the weekend installing cruises on both our Valks over the weekend. I ended up with a severe cold and decided not to go because I would 've ended up giving it to him. I guess the Lord works in mysterious ways. If I had been up there, we would have ended up bringing Sandman home on a trailer or, since I have a belly tank, I could have filled the belly tank before i left and ridden it home. Marty |
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 06:44:21 PM » |
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 on the pingel. Alot here like to play with the oem a few times instead of getting one that seems to be reliable and less prone to failures. 
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X Ring
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 06:49:29 PM » |
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I already converted it to manual for the belly tank. After that and reading all the problems people have with them, this made those seem like child's play. No $20 cover set is going to fix that. Plus, the Pingel is almost $20 cheaper before shipping.  Marty |
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 09:39:46 PM » |
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I took my stock valve apart an removed the vac. parts of the valve an put a alum. plate to block off that section an now I have a manual valve at no cost.who needs all that junk.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 09:48:01 PM » |
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on the pingel. Alot here like to play with the oem a few times instead of getting one that seems to be reliable and less prone to failures. Oh common now, be nice.  |
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 02:47:21 AM » |
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Wish I would've seen your post before I ordered. I just paid $101 for my Pingle, then add shippining |
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 04:03:52 AM » |
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.... I ordered a Pingel 1311-CH from Eastern Performance for $89.95 shipped. Does that come with an adaptor nut to fit the Valk or is that extra ?? |
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X Ring
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 04:15:32 AM » |
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The 1311 is the model Pingel specifies for our Valks. It has a 22mm nut which is the same size Harley has speced since the mid 70s. Talking with ChrisJ yesterday, he told me the fuel outlet is slightly smaller than ours. I found out it is 1/4" and ours is the metric equivalent of 5/16" He recommended using a worm gear (old style) hose clamp. Tundra, if they haven't shipped it yet, cancel your order and call Eastern Performance. I found them on ebay and instead of ordering through there, I called them direct. Here's their site: http://easternperformance.com/Marty |
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 04:46:07 AM » |
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Sodbuster...comes with the adapter nut. Thanks Marty, will do |
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 07:53:43 AM » |
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Maybe a good time to put in a quick disconnect as well ??
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 08:17:40 AM » |
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That is....unless you sweat an extension on the Pingel pickup tube to make it the same(or nearly so) length as the OEM pickup. |
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X Ring
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 09:12:48 AM » |
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Sodbuster, I have a belly tank. I would need 3 quick disconnects, one of which would need to be 1/2".
John, I have an approximate 250-280 range so I normally try to fill up between 225 and 250 miles. My reserve isn't dependent upon the height of the opening of the pickup tube but the height of the feed bung for the belly tank. Thanks for your advice.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2009, 12:32:04 PM » |
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2009, 04:01:50 PM » |
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on the pingel. Alot here like to play with the oem a few times instead of getting one that seems to be reliable and less prone to failures. Oh common now, be nice. It wasn't meant to be offensive. Just a observation I have seen in recent years.  |
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 04:19:39 PM » |
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On the subject of belly tanks and without getting off on a tangent is there room to put one of those permanent lift adaptors when using a belly tank ?? Like this .... or do you actually lift on the tank ?? Thanks  |
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X Ring
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2009, 04:25:42 PM » |
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I don't know and I've wondered about that myself. It would be nice if we could get some measurements of the adapter plus some detailed pics of it on and off the bike including the mounting point with the adapter installed.
Marty
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 04:26:02 PM » |
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On the subject of belly tanks and without getting off on a tangent is there room to put one of those permanent lift adaptors when using a belly tank ?? Like this .... or do you actually lift on the tank ?? Thanks This site may help. http://www.rmworksinc.com/Lift.html |
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X Ring
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 04:30:18 PM » |
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No it doesn't. It covers how to use door stops with a lift because you can't use a regular lift adapter. The permanent adapter bolts on and stays on the bike. It's supposed to use the kickstand mounting point which the belly tank also uses.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2009, 04:33:23 PM » |
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Well, how 'bout that for a quick answer. Good stuff to know thou. Thanks !!
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2009, 05:52:19 PM » |
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Won't adding the adapter hinder your ground clearance?
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2009, 05:55:30 PM » |
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From the picture it looks like it doesn't hang below the kickstand pivot.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2009, 06:47:58 PM » |
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Won't adding the adapter hinder your ground clearance?
You're prolly thinking of the "Red" one .... the one in the pic is basically flush with the bottom of the engine. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2009, 08:40:50 PM » |
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No. the adapter is under the middle of the bike, and is high enough it is not noticeable. LOTS of other stuff hits first!
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X Ring
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2009, 09:06:31 PM » |
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MP, do you have one on your Valk? If so, can you post some pics of it, especially where it attaches to the bike?
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2009, 06:15:01 AM » |
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X Ring:
It is the same as Sodbuster's pic near the bottom of page one on this thread. It bolts onto the crossmember. You remove the bolts that hold the sidestand, and insert the adapter, then put the bolts back in. Seems like I had to take a grinder to remove a small piece of the adapter that hit something, if I remember right. Not a big deal though.
There is NO WAY it could ever touch down. As Sodbusters pic shows, it is nestled up real good. Impossible to hit. Almost impossible to even see it there, unless you get down and look for it. Works real well. Just slide the arms of the jack under, line the rear jack arm up with the adapter, and lift up. Perfect.
Just bought a 2001 IS. I have an adapter to put on it too, but it has air horns up under there, and have not had the time yet to see if they are going to cause a problem or not.
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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2009, 06:59:12 AM » |
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MP, I wasn't the one concerned about it touching down. I need to know if it mounts in front or behind the kickstand and how thick it is.
Marty
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2009, 07:30:04 AM » |
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Guys, I have a belly tank that uses the kickstand bolts as the front mounting point. I don't have any room behind the kickstand; therefore, I need to know if the adapter goes in front or behind the kickstand.
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2009, 07:37:30 AM » |
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O.K, Thought you may be able to see from the link pic. I posted. It mounts to the back of the kickstand bracket. But puts the adapter right below the bracket. So the adapter is mounted it is not in frt. or behind but below the bracket. Hope that helps.
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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2009, 08:04:04 AM » |
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I got a feelin' the belly tank shares the same space as the adapter.
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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2009, 08:11:41 AM » |
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Looks like I will have to get one and find out for myself. Thanks Fellas.
Marty
P.S. Sodbuster, don't worry about the hijack. It was a subject I was wondering about also.
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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2009, 08:23:03 AM » |
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Yeah, At that price would be worth a try. They usually sell fast and is very handy to have.
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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2009, 08:34:13 AM » |
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Well that's a new failure mode! Haven't seen that before! Glad it didn't catch you away from home. |
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2009, 10:16:41 AM » |
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Looks like I will have to get one and find out for myself. Thanks Fellas.
Marty
P.S. Sodbuster, don't worry about the hijack. It was a subject I was wondering about also.
Yeah .... I hessitated even bringing it up (adaptor) for fear where it might go. Sorry 'bout that. Thanks for the heads up on the petcock thou, sounds like a good thing to replace over the winter. Give us an update on your progress .... |
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2009, 10:47:20 AM » |
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Well that's a new failure mode! Haven't seen that before! Glad it didn't catch you away from home. Well I try to be unique and not follow the pack.  |
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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2009, 10:56:09 AM » |
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Re: pic.
No torque wrench there. For sure!
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