Well, it's started, voter fraud.

[RP#62]

Psycho and I have been absentee voting for many years.  One of our neighbors just came over (she was livid) and gave us our ballots that were delivered to her mailbox.  One of my co-workers received SIX mis-delivered ballots.  

Long ago I worked for the USPS.  When I worked there, the workers (regardless of political affiliation) strongly believed in the sanctity of the mail.  Based on some of the things I've seen in the news, perhaps that has changed over the years.  Regardless, the fact remains, whether intentional or unintentional, the mail is no guarantee of untampered and timely delivery of ballots.

Our County Recorder is, at best, incompetent; at worst, corrupt.  Despite some previous election shenanigans (ballot harvesting, polling place issues, etc.), I never felt the need to track my ballot... until now.  

It sucks to have no confidence in the sanctity of our election process.  I'll be dropping off my ballot in person and tracking it thereafter.  But, I don't trust or believe in the the system anymore.  

We got ours yesterday.  We didn't trust them to the USPS even before all this started.  In past years, we take them over to the municipal building and they text us when they've been registered.  Will do the same this year.

-RP

[Patrick]

Yesterday 50,000 ballots were found mailed incorrectly in one precinct in [ I believe] Pa.


Nope, no chance of fraud at all.

[Moonshot_1]

I think many are missing the larger picture here. It isn't about "fraud" in the sense that they intend to fraudulently casts votes. There will be that but not in a quantity that would be particularly significant.

The issue is to create such chaos in the voting system that the entire system itself loses all integrity and credibility so nothing can be "legitimately" be determined by the vote. This tosses it back to the legislature to choose the electors. State and/or Federal.

It would be absolutely amazing should we know who wins the Presidency at the end of election day.
There will be untold numbers of uncounted votes, demands that all be found and counted, amid violence at the polling places that will surely drive people away.

[Patrick]

I agree, I doubt we'll know on Weds. morning who our President is. I'll surprised if we know before inauguration day. I can't see either conceding.

[Willow]

I agree, I doubt we'll know on Weds. morning who our President is. I'll surprised if we know before inauguration day. I can't see either conceding.

Correction -  On Wednesday morning we will still know who is our President but we likely will not yet know who will be the President next year.

[98valk]

https://bongino.com/election-officials-in-ohio-county-say-that-almost-50k-voters-are-receiving-wrong-absentee-ballots

[98valk]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/09/you-are-needed-new-hampshire-residents-receive-unidentified-mailers-with-absentee-ballot-applications/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

[Patrick]

I agree, I doubt we'll know on Weds. morning who our President is. I'll surprised if we know before inauguration day. I can't see either conceding.

Correction -  On Wednesday morning we will still know who is our President but we likely will not yet know who will be the President next year.

Picky picky picky        I forgot to add the word 'next' didn't I.

[The emperor has no clothes]

https://news.yahoo.com/california-republicans-allegedly-setting-fake-043500622.html

Well, it's happening alright.

[f6gal]

https://news.yahoo.com/california-republicans-allegedly-setting-fake-043500622.html

Well, it's happening alright.

If ballot harvesting was illegal, like it should be, this wouldn't work.

[Wizzard]

No matter who does it. It is still wrong. Doing wrong for being wronged solves nothing.

[..]

No matter who does it. It is still wrong. Doing wrong for being wronged solves nothing.

 

[Moonshot_1]

https://news.yahoo.com/california-republicans-allegedly-setting-fake-043500622.html

Well, it's happening alright.

And from the very article "But the state GOP has "been defending the practice in replies on Twitter, alleging the process was made legal under a 2016 law that allows California voters to designate a person to return their ballot for them,"

And nowhere, nowhere, in the article is this even disputed.

Then there is the "alleged" this and "alleged" that,  "purporting" and of course "TRICKERY". Must be true if there is alleged trickery.

[The emperor has no clothes]

https://news.yahoo.com/california-republicans-allegedly-setting-fake-043500622.html

Well, it's happening alright.

And from the very article "But the state GOP has "been defending the practice in replies on Twitter, alleging the process was made legal under a 2016 law that allows California voters to designate a person to return their ballot for them,"

And nowhere, nowhere, in the article is this even disputed.

Then there is the "alleged" this and "alleged" that,  "purporting" and of course "TRICKERY". Must be true if there is alleged trickery.

You must have not read the entire article. A few sentences down ;

"State officials say unauthorized drop boxes would violate that law since there's no designated person to sign for the ballot, as required."

[J.Mencalice]

Just one of numerous reasons why Colorado's election system is modeled as the gold standard for the rest of the nation to follow.  A person possessing a modicum of reason and logic may actually see that the opportunity for posting a fraudulent vote/signature and having it slip by the scrutiny of the electoral electronic instrumentation and electoral judges' eyes comes up as a big "NONE" in our Centennial State.
So, no voting fraud to be concerned about for Colorado; take a lesson and get it right.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/10/09/colorado-ballot-signature-questions/

[The emperor has no clothes]

Psycho and I have been absentee voting for many years.  One of our neighbors just came over (she was livid) and gave us our ballots that were delivered to her mailbox.  One of my co-workers received SIX mis-delivered ballots.  

Long ago I worked for the USPS.  When I worked there, the workers (regardless of political affiliation) strongly believed in the sanctity of the mail.  Based on some of the things I've seen in the news, perhaps that has changed over the years.  Regardless, the fact remains, whether intentional or unintentional, the mail is no guarantee of untampered and timely delivery of ballots.

Our County Recorder is, at best, incompetent; at worst, corrupt.  Despite some previous election shenanigans (ballot harvesting, polling place issues, etc.), I never felt the need to track my ballot... until now.  

It sucks to have no confidence in the sanctity of our election process.  I'll be dropping off my ballot in person and tracking it thereafter.  But, I don't trust or believe in the the system anymore.  

We got ours today. This will be my first time voting by mail. (I don't really consider it absentee, if I'm going to be here on Nov. 3). I'm more worried about my signature matching. They have me listed with my full middle name and Jr. suffix. My signature has deteriorated over the years, and I usually only sign as Rob Tice anyway. I'm going to have to practice my sig.

Well, my practicing paid off. Checked the status of my ballot. I'm accepted ! Well, not really. My ballot was. I think I like this setup. I might continue to use it.