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« on: September 20, 2020, 07:12:09 PM » |
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« Last Edit: September 20, 2020, 07:13:53 PM by 98valk »
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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798
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old2soon
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 07:51:11 PM » |
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So guessin here either don't defend yerself and maybe die or defend yerself and let the state take yer life. O K think I may have it now-NOT. RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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DGS65
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 08:40:49 PM » |
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Disgusting!
It sounds like they have an issue with him confronting the group in front of his bar. Maybe just maybe he wouldn't have done so if he wasn't armed which led to the shooting.
The 2nd amendment is being destroyed.
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Robert
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2020, 03:34:01 AM » |
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Since they could not get gun control passed they went another way. Prosecute anyone who protects themselves with a gun. Why do you think Soros is funding the DA in cities? The physiological effect is chilling, use your gun, go to jail or get prosecuted. Yet we have some who vote this in.  Mark McCloskey pointing a semi-automatic rifle and Patricia McCloskey pointing a hand gun at the crowd. |
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« Last Edit: September 21, 2020, 03:38:15 AM by Robert »
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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scooperhsd
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 06:32:37 AM » |
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So, it's wrong to fire a 2nd warning shot, but it's Ok to defend yourself ? What a stretch of justice. No wonder he committed suicide...
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2020, 07:19:04 AM » |
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WTF. Confronted by a group. He backs away. Knocked to the ground. Defends himself. AND HE'S IN THE WRONG. Were the attackers arrested and charged??? It's a shame that the trial wont happen. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2020, 07:20:34 AM » |
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Patrick
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2020, 07:27:05 AM » |
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I'm not about to move to Omaha anytime soon. This is beyond ridiculous. I can't believe the way this country is turning.
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98valk
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2020, 07:33:46 AM » |
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so here in Nazi Jersey even more so with the current Tyrant gov, the law is and has been for decades, if person/s break into your home, u must first retreat to outside the home. if u fire and kill them I think even if one used any kind of weapon, and its proven u could have escaped the home, before killing them then u will go to jail for murder. It is amazing How many NJers do not know that.
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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798
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Patrick
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2020, 07:44:37 AM » |
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so here in Nazi Jersey even more so with the current Tyrant gov, the law is and has been for decades, if person/s break into your home, u must first retreat to outside the home. if u fire and kill them I think even if one used any kind of weapon, and its proven u could have escaped the home, before killing them then u will go to jail for murder. It is amazing How many NJers do not know that.
Something similar happened here in our little town a few decades ago. I guy broke into a house and was going up the stairs when the owner shot him. They charged and started to prosecute him. I not sure what happened now but he did finally get off, but, it took awhile. We're not safe on our own properties anymore. |
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old2soon
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2020, 01:42:47 PM » |
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So WHAT castle doctrine don't mean squat no mo?  And Again guessin here but those "in charge" lookin fer a bunch of fine Americans ta herd? Personally if I gotta go anywho on my feet defiant stead of kneeling grovling and begging.  RIDE SAFE. |
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2020, 05:28:44 PM » |
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S O , if they would have beat him to death , it would have been his fault for being there. R E M E M B E R WHO THESE POLITICIANS are come election day. Remind them how stupid they are.  When they get attacked , turn your head. It seems to be the way.  If I get attacked ,Ii will fight , shoot or stab. What gives the attacker more rights than me. da prez |
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2020, 07:07:34 PM » |
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That is exactly why I decided to get carry insurance by USCCA.
At least I will have back-up in my corner should I have to protect myself or family.
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da prez
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2020, 07:20:11 PM » |
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I have USCCA also. Hope I never need it.
da prez
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Serk
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2020, 07:55:25 PM » |
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...charge the DA with capital murder.
Only way this kind of crap will be stopped.
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2020, 06:45:21 AM » |
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It's the Special prosecuter they need to charge.
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MarkT
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2020, 08:33:10 AM » |
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I subsribe to ACLDN - Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Network. Not expensive. I don't know their success rate in defense actions. Might be irrelevent, you pick the lawyer yourself and they pay for him. They help you find the lawyer if needed.
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Tarkus
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2020, 11:32:28 AM » |
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I can't decide if I'm more sad, or pissed off over this. The idea that someone could rightfully be found innocent and then a mob can coerce the DA to relent. Perhaps I'm overstating the obvious. But this is just a small part of the big picture. Those of us who at least have a superficial knowledge of 20th century history may recognize that this backasswards and seemingly illogical approach to law and order nowadays is not without precedence. I'm guessing that many, if not most of us here were around during 60s and 70s as the Chinese cultural revolution was taking place on the other side of the globe. I normally don't sit through an entire 15+ minute video once I get the gist of it. But this one I couldn't break away from. It lays out the parallels between what happened in China back then (or any Communist revolution for that matter) and what's currently happening here at home. Have you noticed the price of ammo lately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXipfCKUoo |
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Conformity is doing what everyone else is doing, regardless of what is right.
Morality is doing what is right regardless of what everyone else is doing.
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98valk
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2020, 02:33:39 PM » |
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I can't decide if I'm more sad, or pissed off over this. The idea that someone could rightfully be found innocent and then a mob can coerce the DA to relent. Perhaps I'm overstating the obvious. But this is just a small part of the big picture. Those of us who at least have a superficial knowledge of 20th century history may recognize that this backasswards and seemingly illogical approach to law and order nowadays is not without precedence. I'm guessing that many, if not most of us here were around during 60s and 70s as the Chinese cultural revolution was taking place on the other side of the globe. I normally don't sit through an entire 15+ minute video once I get the gist of it. But this one I couldn't break away from. It lays out the parallels between what happened in China back then (or any Communist revolution for that matter) and what's currently happening here at home. Have you noticed the price of ammo lately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXipfCKUoo MAO's Red Guards are back as antifa, blm, rioters, etc., guess who today's Mao is/are. Eventually the Red Guards moved on to openly killing people who did not think as they did. Where were the police? The cops were told not to intervene in Red Guard activities, and if they did, the national police chief pardoned the Guards for any crimes. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/remember-the-red-guards-before-you-cheer-the-woke-mobs/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Guards |
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