Biden bringing muslim control to American

[98valk]

this is what people voted for.

https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-panders-muslims-quotes-muhammad-says-schools-teach-islam/

Joe Biden would like to see American children learn more about Islam in class, he said Monday.

Speaking virtually at the “Million Muslim Votes” summit, he expressed his desire to see Muslims have a greater influence over American culture.

“Look, one of the things I think is important — I wish we taught more in our schools about the Islamic faith. I wish we talked about all the great confessional faiths. It’s one of the great confessional faiths,” Biden told the summit, which was hosted by the Islamic advocacy group Emgage Action.

Biden also vowed to appoint Muslims to jobs in his administration if he’s elected.

“I’ll be a president who seeks out and listens to and incorporates the ideas and concerns of Muslim Americans on everyday issues that matter most to our communities,” Biden said.

[Chrisj CMA]

Well let’s just hope and pray he never gets that cy

[Jess from VA]

But teach Christianity (even generically), or have a cross, or post the ten commandments on a courthouse wall, or teach sanctity of life.... and you are a racist, mysogenist, hater to be sued and persecuted.

The truth is simply not in any of them.   

[Beardo]

As someone who was born and raised in the Canadian prairies, similar to the heartland of the US, I wouldn’t mind if there was a chance to learn more about other religions. Everyone I knew growing up was Catholic. I’m completely ignorant to what Jews, Muslims, etc believe. No idea what any of their religious holidays and special days mean. Would I be a more well rounded, knowledgeable person if I had a basic understanding of their beliefs? Certainly. Is it going to do me any harm? Nope. Do I want anyone to try and convert me? Nope.  It’s kind of embarrassing having to google it when I see a Jewish or Muslim special day on the calendar.

Make it an elective that kids can opt out of if you don’t want to take it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

As someone who was born and raised in the Canadian prairies, similar to the heartland of the US, I wouldn’t mind if there was a chance to learn more about other religions. Everyone I knew growing up was Catholic. I’m completely ignorant to what Jews, Muslims, etc believe. No idea what any of their religious holidays and special days mean. Would I be a more well rounded, knowledgeable person if I had a basic understanding of their beliefs? Certainly. Is it going to do me any harm? Nope. Do I want anyone to try and convert me? Nope.  It’s kind of embarrassing having to google it when I see a Jewish or Muslim special day on the calendar.

Make it an elective that kids can opt out of if you don’t want to take it.

No need for embarrassment. Hell, sometimes I've got to google Catholic stuff.  (I do think it's a good idea to learn about others) 

[sandy]

Now you know why we have a separation of church and state. If we removed prayer from schools, we can’t teach any other religion in public school. An old saying when I grew up was “Religion and politics should be taught in the home”.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Now you know why we have a separation of church and state. If we removed prayer from schools, we can’t teach any other religion in public school. An old saying when I grew up was “Religion and politics should be taught in the home”.

I don't think it's about teaching religion in school. But teaching about religion.

[Bighead]

Now you know why we have a separation of church and state. If we removed prayer from schools, we can’t teach any other religion in public school. An old saying when I grew up was “Religion and politics should be taught in the home”.

I don't think it's about teaching religion in school. But teaching about religion.

Again with the 180* different view.
How about actually TEACHING kids to think and not to just accept what they are being told?

[Beardo]

Now you know why we have a separation of church and state. If we removed prayer from schools, we can’t teach any other religion in public school. An old saying when I grew up was “Religion and politics should be taught in the home”.

I don't think it's about teaching religion in school. But teaching about religion.

Again with the 180* different view.
How about actually TEACHING kids to think and not to just accept what they are being told?

And what’s wrong with teaching that not everyone thinks or sees the world exactly the same (a good thing) and maybe we’d be a better society if we learned a bit about each other without the objective of changing anyone’s opinion/religion? 

I agree that universities are terrible at preaching their ideas and not allowing free thought...I have 2 kids there now and it’s painful how they aren’t allowed to think freely.  There would be a right way and a wrong way to do this...the way it is in universities is far from the right way, IMO.

[Bighead]

Beardo it happens in grade,middle and high school also.  Sad thing it is.

[Beardo]

Beardo it happens in grade,middle and high school also.  Sad thing it is.

Oh I agree. My conservative thinking kids have more than once had to bite their tongues and not speak up on what they believe in order to pass a class. It ain’t right, for sure.

Which is why I said, if we were going to teach our kids about the religions of the world, there would be a right way and a wrong way to do it.

[carolinarider09]

I have told this story before (maybe not here) but when I was working in Florida, I attended Central Florida College in Ocala, FL.  (this was in the mid 70's).  One of the courses I took was a class on Religions.  It was a very interested class, very informative and fun. 

The professor was the reason why we liked the class.  He was probably in his 60's (hard to tell I was in my late 20's) and about 5'6" and wearing glasses.  Besides his knowledge of the various world's religions, he was well known for writing on the blackboard while facing the class in Arabic or some other middle eastern language. 

I mean literally facing the class while his hand wrote out the words on the board.  The rumor was the he was ex CIA but..... 

And yes, I have no problem with everyone taking a course as long as it covered more than one religion.  I think it was entitled the Worlds Great Religions but.....

I could look this course up but that would take me a few hours to sift through the old documents.  Which reminds me that now that I have my NAS I should scan everything so it would be easer to get to.

[98valk]

six yrs to go and biden is helping it.

http://shoebat.com/2014/10/09/30-year-muslim-plan-control-america-six-years-go/

Twenty-five years ago, Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradwai traveled to America and unpacked his plan for a Muslim takeover that would begin one year later and take 30 years to complete. It included a key component and tactic known as Muruna. Like the Ebola virus, it is extremely effective at carrying out its deadly mission.

It was al-Qaradawi who introduced Muruna to the American Muslim community in December of 1989 at the annual conference of the Association of Muslim Youth Forums. The Muslim Brotherhood leader introduced this tactic along with a 30-year plan (1990-2020) of conquest for Muslims in the U.S. It would include a tactic that would permit Islamic prohibitions:

    Muruna was designed to catapult and advance Sharia by using Western means. If one thinks that Sharia, with its harsh code, is problematic enough, how about the elimination of the kinder, gentler laws? Muruna is literally accomplished by permitting behavior normally so eschewed by Sharia that Westerners logically assume a more moderate version of Islam when such prohibitions are suddenly permitted. Westerners’ eyes are, in fact, deceiving them. Muruna is about going to great lengths to gain interests through a much deeper level of deception while simultaneously lowering the guard and gaining the support of the infidels.

An archived page of the MAS website from 2003 – smack dab in the middle of Elsayed’s tenure there – states the following:

    The call and the spirit of the movement reached the shores of North America with arrival of the Muslim student and immigrants in the late 50’s and early 60’s. These early pioneers and Islamic Movement followers established in 1963. Muslim Student Association (MSA) of U.S and Canada as the rallying point in their endeavor to serve Islam and Muslims in the North America scene. Other services and outreach organization soon followed, such as North America Islamic Trust (NAIT), Islamic Medical Association (IMA), Muslim Arab Youth Association (MAYA) and Muslim Youth of North America (MYNA), to name a few.

MAS was founded just two years after the commencement of al-Qaradawi’s 30-year plan and set out to follow al-Qaradawi’s prescription to the letter. A few years later, the man who would become MAS Secretary General was taking notes as al-Qaradawi spoke inside a mosque that would be visited by three 9/11 hijackers and Fort Hood jihadist Nidal Malik Hasan, who was inspired by Anwar al-Awlaki, a man who served as the Imam of the mosque at the time of the 9/11 attacks; an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing named Mohammed al-Hanooti became the mosque’s Imam in 1995. Ten years later, Elsayed would be a successor to Hanooti as Imam of Dar al-Hijrah, a position he holds today.

In March of 2000, Estwani wrote a letter to President Clinton, which he handed to Clinton personally (this is backed up by Clinton’s handwritten notes appearing on the letter). It included the following:

    I was also honored in being given the opportunity to invite you personally to visit our Islamic center and mosque in Falls Church, Virginia (Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center), which is considered one of the most active and largest Islamic centers in the United States. I have been repeatedly honored by your invitations and warm receptions at the white house, especially at the Breakfast Prayers since September 1995. You and the first lady have graciously hosted the Muslim community on several occasions and we are eternally grateful for your and her gracious hospitality and reception. We wish her and you the best always.

[Oss]

Kids need to learn not just about religions but history
Also how many have died horribly during
Religious wars, crusades, inquisition, genocide
And due to communism which says the state is the religion

Also learn why jefferson got permission to go try to rescue ourpeople. The Marine hymn. To the shores of.tripoli

Beardo pm me anything you wish to know about mine

I am an open book

[Beardo]

Kids need to learn not just about religions but history
Also how many have died horribly during
Religious wars, crusades, inquisition, genocide
And due to communism which says the state is the religion

Also learn why jefferson got permission to go try to rescue ourpeople. The Marine hymn. To the shores of.tripoli

Beardo pm me anything you wish to know about mine

I am an open book

Couldn’t agree more, thanks Oss. 

I love the simple rural upbringing I had and wouldn’t change it for the world...but as an adult, I see that there much about people and the world that I don’t know. This is one of the very FEW advantages of living in a more populated place like NY. 

We’d all do well to get past the “my way of interpreting the world is the only way” kind of thinking. Or that just because someone else sees things differently, they must be wrong.

[scooperhsd]

Sometimes I think I've had way more for my tastes than I'd prefer. I seem to be more of a global thinker than many (no doubt USN time and living in the international dorm in college contributed to this). But then, I know people who have spent more time that aren't any more than me.

Fundamentally - I've remained dedicated to truth, fairness, follow the rules mostly (but have a good reason for not when necessary). Also big on treating others the way I want to be treated - with respect - even if I disagree with them.

[scooperhsd]

Oh , and on the subject matter of the thread in question.

WHAT DO THEY THINK SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE MEANS !?!?!?!?!

To me, it means there is no place in the USA for Sharia law (based on the Moslem holy books scriptures) - NO IFS , ANDS , or BUTS.