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Author Topic: Shift shaft oil seal.  (Read 1804 times)
John Schmidt
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« on: November 12, 2020, 10:03:39 AM »

Am I looking at the right thing..item #25 on the shift fork breakdown, oil seal #91206-286-013? Was also looking for the rear grommet(the round one) at the top for the side covers. Easy to spot those but I seem to recall a number of years ago someone found certain grommets used by the John Deere garden tractors were the same thing and at a much lower price. Not a priority like the oil seal so probably won't bother looking.

Was looking on Ebay for possible resources for the parts mentioned above. I was blown away by the prices, especially for the oil seal. Most are wanting 2 or 3 times the dealer price of $2.36 plus shipping. I contacted one place that was asking over $8 ea. plus nearly the same amount for shipping. The guy felt they weren't in that big of a demand but still didn't know why the stock didn't move so I told him. I suggested when you ask over $8 plus an equal amount to ship something that can go in a padded envelope, you're asking a custome to spend approx. $16 for a $2+ item. His answer...."oh well." Generally I'll not buy a rubber type item off ebay since I have no idea how old(and stiff) it might be. An oil seal is kinda important, needs to be flexible. The grommet...not so much, a little lube and it works fine.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 10:19:28 AM »

Agreed.  In a recent shipment of the Jersey Bracket to Australia, the customer asked if I would obtain an oil seal for him here in the States and include it.  (which I did).  Apparently the price is quite high down under, too.

https://jerseymcproducts.bigcartel.com/product/jersey-bracket

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John Schmidt
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 10:50:49 AM »

Jersey, got one from you at Inzane, didn't install it on the old bike cuz I was seriously thinking of getting or converting to a trike...which I did. The trikes shaft seal is leaking like crazy so your bracket and a new seal will go on eventually. If you recall, I chatted with you re. my bike not shutting down when I dropped the side stand. I'll be selling it in the spring so won't worry about it, I will advise the new owner if I haven't figured it out by then but putting OEM bars & controls back on might solve the issue.

So...am I looking at the correct seal on the IPB? (illustrated parts breakdown)
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98valk
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 11:01:46 AM »

that's the right part John.
rockymtn is normally cheaper on shipping for smaller orders.

#28  91206-286-013   OIL SEAL (14X28X7) (ARAI)   $2.23   
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/4

used on many honda motorcycles.
https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/91206-286-013    $2.93

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2020, 04:09:36 PM »

Ordered two of the seals and round rear grommets for the side covers. Only need one but with small items I often order two; 1 to lose, 1 to use.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2020, 05:01:00 PM »

Too late, I know but a little cheaper than one.  $2.59    Don't know about shipping. Another place to check next time.


https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/506c2f6af870023420a31b41/shift-drum-shift-fork
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2020, 05:07:29 PM »

My oil seal was leaking a few years ago. I ordered one and while waiting to arrive, I pushed the leaking one on tighter (with a socket I believe). It has not leaked since and I still have the new seal still in the package awaiting a leak.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2020, 06:28:57 AM »

I've used Partszilla in the past but slower than a ship from China. Recently found these folk somewhat local (Decatur, IL) to me. Prices are the cheapest on the web so far and they ship within 3-5 days. $2.18 on that seal. Shipping on small items unless stated or inquired otherwise due to size etc., I believe is $5.99 to me but... I would normally use my local power motion store but they don't keep normal bearings IMO in stock let alone seals of this size. Very disappointing as in the past they were awesome.

https://www.servicehonda.com/
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2020, 07:46:04 AM »

I've used Service Honda in the past but quit due to prices and shipping practices. Been a few years so maybe things have improved. Might try them again if so.  cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2020, 08:14:08 AM »

Can a local Honda car dealer order in bike parts?
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98valk
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2020, 08:51:42 AM »

The shipping costs more than the parts?  Grrrrr.   I can order parts from the nearest Honda dealer and drive there.  A 48 mile round trip in an F150 will cost more than that shipping.  I bite the bullet and pay shipping.  Grrrrr.

yep sometimes.

one reason I buy from rocky is that they give u reward points every time I buy from them. so that helps. sometimes they have great close out deals and carry most of the honda line chemicals esp the thread lockers which are more cost effective than buying a thd locker at the local parts store. and usually only an industrial supply has hi-temp medium strength.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2020, 06:38:34 AM »

  A local parts auto store with adult supervision can cross the number to see if it is available.  It is sometimes worth a try. I have never paid shipping at an auto parts store.

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2020, 08:29:46 AM »

         I usually check on line for Phatt Ghurl parts the call my Dlr and balance that out with the part and the shipping. My Dlr DO git a goos portion of my business. Ask dlr Will they price match. Mine did on a battery purchase some years back but on the A G M no how no way he told me. And he also Knew he were too high fer my wallet. Sometimes yer the bug sometimes yer the windshield.  Lips Sealed RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2020, 09:42:05 AM »

Want to Eliminate the Oil Leak from developing?  Install a Jersey Shifter Bracket.

The reason the leak develops is because the shift rod moves up and down (slop).  The OEM design only provides a single support inside the case.  The Jersey Bracket adds a SECOND support for the shift rod to rotate... eliminating ALL up/down slop!!  Fix the problem, not the symptom. 

Jersey Shifter Bracket. The ONLY engineered fix that solves the problem PERMANENTLY!

https://jerseymcproducts.bigcartel.com/product/jersey-bracket



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