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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 04:38:45 AM » |
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Ya but, he said we all make mistakes and he apologized for it. That makes it all better doesn't it.
Once caught just beg for forgiveness.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 04:51:22 AM » |
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Ya but, he said we all make mistakes and he apologized for it. That makes it all better doesn't it.
Once caught just beg for forgiveness.
It's become a common theme and is likely far more rampant than we know, these are just a few times somebody ratted them out.. Sweden and Sturgiss proved this was a scam long ago, yet here we are letting the process continue as millions suffer needlessly. We've seen nothing 'normal' in the response to this magic bug, and the games will continue until we run the perps out on a rail, preferably with tar and feathers included.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 07:48:16 AM » |
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I am against mandated lockdowns. Period. That said, Sweden is on par with other nations. It's a freaking virus. Hard to control doesn't mean let it run. Some mitigations are just common sense. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/11/18/analysis-has-swedens-light-touch-coronavirus-strategy-failed/Vaccines are coming. Enjoy your lives as you see fit.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 11:19:29 AM » |
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Ya but, he said we all make mistakes and he apologized for it. That makes it all better doesn't it.
Once caught just beg for forgiveness.
It's become a common theme and is likely far more rampant than we know, these are just a few times somebody ratted them out.. Sweden and Sturgiss proved this was a scam long ago, yet here we are letting the process continue as millions suffer needlessly. We've seen nothing 'normal' in the response to this magic bug, and the games will continue until we run the perps out on a rail, preferably with tar and feathers included. I agree, the sooner the better. But considering the way folks have recently voted, I don't expect much of anything positive coming forth anytime soon.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2020, 01:54:41 PM » |
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My post wasn't a claim there's no danger from the virus, my problem is with its use as a political tool of manipulation and even revenge. If Newsom claims it's unsafe for a family to gather on Thanksgiving, then holds a big party I've got a problem with it. His apology is as hollow as his argument, he'd have been smarter to say all attendees were tested and temperature checked before entering. We're told eating outside is safe for Thanksgiving, yet walking in a park or on the beach is unsafe. There are thousands of examples of these fools toying with US like that, and frankly, we're being played and my patience is gone. BTW, Newsom's little party had Medical Association Executives present, what does that mean, we're being lied to? If it's so dangerous, why would the medical advisers throw caution to the wind? Time to Just Say No edit: This is something I have a big problem with, the 'cases' scam https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/11/17/dont-believe-the-covid-case-numbers-its-a-scam/
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2020, 02:12:59 PM » |
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Facts.
We don't know the real number of "new cases of COVID-19" because the test has always been somewhat flawed.
Its accuracy is suspect. People are re-testing. We don't know if they are re-counted or not.
The numbers have always been about "control". More cases, more control.
More cases, you have to shut down.
More cases, I get to tell you when and where.
Oh and do as I say, not as I do. I am king. You are the serf. Believe what I say its for your own good.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2020, 02:27:48 PM » |
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My post wasn't a claim there's no danger from the virus, my problem is with its use as a political tool of manipulation and even revenge. If Newsom claims it's unsafe for a family to gather on Thanksgiving, then holds a big party I've got a problem with it. His apology is as hollow as his argument, he'd have been smarter to say all attendees were tested and temperature checked before entering. We're told eating outside is safe for Thanksgiving, yet walking in a park or on the beach is unsafe. There are thousands of examples of these fools toying with US like that, and frankly, we're being played and my patience is gone. BTW, Newsom's little party had Medical Association Executives present, what does that mean, we're being lied to? If it's so dangerous, why would the medical advisers throw caution to the wind? Time to Just Say No edit: This is something I have a big problem with, the 'cases' scam https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/11/17/dont-believe-the-covid-case-numbers-its-a-scam/FWIW. I can't stand Newsom, or any of his ilk.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2020, 04:25:49 PM » |
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Facts.
We don't know the real number of "new cases of COVID-19" because the test has always been somewhat flawed.
Its accuracy is suspect. People are re-testing. We don't know if they are re-counted or not.
The numbers have always been about "control". More cases, more control.
More cases, you have to shut down.
More cases, I get to tell you when and where.
Oh and do as I say, not as I do. I am king. You are the serf. Believe what I say its for your own good.
Exactly, and they won't ever stop until we tell them we're done.. and vote them out once we unwind the election scam.. who knows, maybe our votes will actually count someday.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2020, 04:26:35 PM » |
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My post wasn't a claim there's no danger from the virus, my problem is with its use as a political tool of manipulation and even revenge. If Newsom claims it's unsafe for a family to gather on Thanksgiving, then holds a big party I've got a problem with it. His apology is as hollow as his argument, he'd have been smarter to say all attendees were tested and temperature checked before entering. We're told eating outside is safe for Thanksgiving, yet walking in a park or on the beach is unsafe. There are thousands of examples of these fools toying with US like that, and frankly, we're being played and my patience is gone. BTW, Newsom's little party had Medical Association Executives present, what does that mean, we're being lied to? If it's so dangerous, why would the medical advisers throw caution to the wind? Time to Just Say No edit: This is something I have a big problem with, the 'cases' scam https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/11/17/dont-believe-the-covid-case-numbers-its-a-scam/FWIW. I can't stand Newsom, or any of his ilk. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2020, 07:34:45 PM » |
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I am so fed up with the animal droppings from what passes it self off as "news". Last week? I believe West Plains Mo. Passed a Mandatory mask Law. Unless or but-if you have a medical condition that does not allow the use of a mask yer sposed to be okey dokey. Walked into wally wurld sans mask But I wuz carrying my walk arouns 02 bottle and the gal on the door Demanded I put on my mask which I then responded-did you watch any of our local "news" casts and Listen to what was stated? In case you missed it I have a medical condition where I Do NOT need to rebreathe C02. The condition I have IS called C O P D. As she opened her pie hole to speak again I was already moving thru the door and into the store. She Obviously Had NOT listened to the whole segment. Little tin gods believeing larger tin gods.  Even the old drunk driving commercials didn't give ya a daily death update. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2020, 10:06:04 PM » |
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The only numbers I look at is how many went to ICU. All the rest is meaningless to me, to many false results.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2020, 11:15:46 PM » |
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The only numbers I look at is how many went to ICU. All the rest is meaningless to me, to many false results.
Mesa County runs out of ICU beds as COVID-19 hospitalizations surge in Colorado Hospitals in Mesa County also approaching capacity in terms of overall beds, staffing https://www.denverpost.com/2020/11/19/mesa-county-no-icu-beds-covid/I posted this earlier in the Coronavirus $hit thread. Grand Junction, Colorado is out of ICU capacity, and low on other rooms and staffing. Our little town has four ICU beds. Western Colorado hospitals in towns like Gunnison send many of their extremely critical patients to GJ. There are dozens of articles about Mesa County in the news today. It's a pretty dire situation there right now. It ain't bullshit. Oh, back to the title subject. Socialism SUCKS, as do those who would knowingly vote to usher it into our Republic.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2020, 05:55:53 AM » |
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Facts.
We don't know the real number of "new cases of COVID-19" because the test has always been somewhat flawed.
Its accuracy is suspect. People are re-testing. We don't know if they are re-counted or not.
The numbers have always been about "control". More cases, more control.
More cases, you have to shut down.
More cases, I get to tell you when and where.
Oh and do as I say, not as I do. I am king. You are the serf. Believe what I say its for your own good.
Exactly, and they won't ever stop until we tell them we're done.. and vote them out once we unwind the election scam.. who knows, maybe our votes will actually count someday. Vote them out ? When ? Seems like we just voted them in.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2020, 07:01:37 PM » |
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I am so fed up with the animal droppings from what passes it self off as "news". Last week? I believe West Plains Mo. Passed a Mandatory mask Law. Unless or but-if you have a medical condition that does not allow the use of a mask yer sposed to be okey dokey. Walked into wally wurld sans mask But I wuz carrying my walk arouns 02 bottle and the gal on the door Demanded I put on my mask which I then responded-did you watch any of our local "news" casts and Listen to what was stated? In case you missed it I have a medical condition where I Do NOT need to rebreathe C02. The condition I have IS called C O P D. As she opened her pie hole to speak again I was already moving thru the door and into the store. She Obviously Had NOT listened to the whole segment. Little tin gods believeing larger tin gods.  Even the old drunk driving commercials didn't give ya a daily death update. RIDE SAFE. O2S, I can't stand to watch a minute of TV news.. I/we get propaganda from the boob tube, from AM radio (total leftist 'news' flashes), from FM radio, Netflix, and other online sources.. even as we pump our friggin gas. I'm tired of being told what to do by the self absorbed would be Rhodes Scholars (in their minds) playing politics in the name of medicine, it's a very dangerous game. If you can't tell by now I'm fed up with it too Haha
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2020, 07:07:25 PM » |
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I can't stand anything national in origin right now - local news is acceptable only as long as it isn't about the pandemic or the election (Weather is a universally acceptable topic).
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2020, 05:08:46 AM » |
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The only numbers I look at is how many went to ICU. All the rest is meaningless to me, to many false results.
Good point, but they lie about cause there too, as well as death. It's a huge problem when we as a society can't get straight answers on a plague. I fear the real plague is political.. with a nasty little bug thrown in for good measure.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2020, 05:25:45 AM » |
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I can't stand anything national in origin right now - local news is acceptable only as long as it isn't about the pandemic or the election (Weather is a universally acceptable topic).
Have you seen the YT video showing a Weather Channel (I believe) reporter barely able to stand against the global warming caused hurricane winds? Then somebody comes casually walking into the background of the shot.. it's funny as hell, except when it's not, we're being gaslit and propagandized daily by the fraudulent body of propagandists calling itself 'the news media'. This one isn't as good, but somebody comes by and heckles the fool. https://twitter.com/i/status/1321582592542625794Propagandists at Google owned YT have allowed the video to stay on the platform if presented in the 'context' of the propagandist chick sitting in a studio explaining why the laughable actor is faking. It's truly amazing and disgusting what's going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyrRCx8-fZk&ab_channel=CBSPhilly
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2020, 07:21:15 AM » |
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I'm tired of being told what to do by the self absorbed would be Rhodes Scholars (in their minds) playing politics in the name of medicine, it's a very dangerous game. If you can't tell by now I'm fed up with it too Haha
Yup So this virus got out of a level 4 bio lab and masks, social distance and lock down are going to stop it. It is found even in drains and apartments is 99.9 percent survivable the elite don't wear masks. The billionaires want to make an ID based on the virus, the tests are contrary at best, and when it first came out doctors were killing patients with ventilators, and did not prescribe strong antibiotics. Now we have an economy that is struggling to keep going the elite are getting richer and the food lines are getting longer. We have lost our freedoms and many governors are establishing unconstitutional regs that the courts don't support and some courts have ordered them removed. The governors have effectively said we will not obey the courts. We have an election that is a total fraud and a congress that lacks the ability to agree and actually have become hostile to the US constitution and a den of snakes. So what could possibly be wrong? If in the blaring inconsistencies and the draconian rules, the loss of quality of life for something that is 99.9 percent survivable you cannot tell an alternative motive in all this then you must be on drugs or someone not able to critical think. I cannot in any way shape or form anyone who would say they are upset and in some way negatively affected by all this. (dam no sarcasm font) At this point I would say that by political corruption giving way to corrupt motives and plans, we are as a nation in deep peril of loosing our sovereignty, privacy, and the nation as a whole. Are you ready to be slaves?
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2020, 09:22:09 AM » |
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So those who wear masks where required are mindless slaves, incapable of critical thinking?
You speak of our rights being infringed upon, losing our sovereignty. It seems your sole method of fighting back against the system is whining about it on social forums.
I've said on many occasions that I don't believe in lockdowns. I've also mentioned that I don't believe in mandates period, including masking.
I'd say if you're not actually getting involved on a local or state government level, you're probably just blowing steam and chasing the breeze...
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