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Author Topic: What Biden Believes, Supports, and Affirms is Needed.  (Read 2142 times)
carolinarider09
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« on: November 21, 2020, 09:06:03 AM »

The following is a synopsis of statements from the Democrat 2020 Party Platform and statements made by prominent Democrat leaders.  Links are placed below each affirmation to provide support for that statement.

America, as founded was and is fundamentally flawed and needs change which a Democrat majority in the house and senate and a Democrat in the White House will ensure takes place.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/07/schumer-if-democrats-win-the-senate-through-georgia-races-we-will-change-america/

The rights guaranteed in the First Amendment only exists if the government agrees.  Freedom of assembly maybe be limited to certain groups and activities at the whim of local governments.  

Meetings in your own home can be limited at the whim of local governments.  The First Amendment applies to Strip Clubs but not Churches.
 

https://www.lifenews.com/2020/11/19/strip-clubs-and-abortion-clinics-can-be-fully-open-in-california-during-coronavirus-not-churches/

https://patriotpost.us/articles/75042-strip-clubs-opened-churches-closed-2020-11-20

The right to keep and bare arms as affirmed by the Second Amendment needs limits.  These limits include the following.

Enact universal background checks.
End online sales of guns and ammunition.
Required that guns be safely stored.
Hold gun companies responsible for their products.


https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/healing-the-soul-of-america/

There is no need for you to leave your home to vote.  Everyone is entitled to vote from home, regardless of their circumstances.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/restoring-and-strengthening-our-democracy/


The is a need for the elimination of carbon pollution from power plants by 2035 through technology-neutral standards for clean energy and energy efficiency.

Within five years, Biden supports:

The installation of 500 million solar panels, including eight million solar roofs and community solar energy systems, and 60,000 wind turbines.

The lowering of “selected” families’ energy bills by making energy-saving upgrades to up to two million low-income households and affordable and public housing units within five years, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs and promoting safe, healthy, and efficient homes.

The United States and the world must achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions no later than 2050

And Biden believes there is a need to reduce heat stress in urban neighborhoods by planting millions of trees.  (No word on how those trees will be "maintained")
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https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/combating-the-climate-crisis-and-pursuing-environmental-justice/
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 10:22:23 AM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced. 

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path? 
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 10:37:13 AM »

As I have said before, there are several ways to resist.  If we lose all three branches, we will have to unify with non-compliance. 

We have to let them, the Democrats, know that we will not go quietly into that night. 

Remember, this website and others are monitored, not specially for you or me or the other, but for content. 

Content can be reviewed and used in several ways.  One is to modify the proposed activity to lessen the impact.  What is that old saying about being immersed in cold water that is slowly heated up. 

And we must never every forget how this happened. 

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 11:06:30 AM »

As I have said before, there are several ways to resist.  If we lose all three branches, we will have to unify with non-compliance. 

We have to let them, the Democrats, know that we will not go quietly into that night. 

Remember, this website and others are monitored, not specially for you or me or the other, but for content. 

Content can be reviewed and used in several ways.  One is to modify the proposed activity to lessen the impact.  What is that old saying about being immersed in cold water that is slowly heated up. 

And we must never every forget how this happened. 


I'm not at all convinced that enough people will unify with non-compliance.  I'm not sure how many would risk being labeled a felon with 10 years in prison and subsequent loss of freedoms.  Unfortunately, most people who purchased guns though dealers are already in some database.  I envision a period for people to come forward and register/pay or surrender weapons.  After that period, they will demand databases from dealers (if they don't have them already) and start coming after those people with criminal warrants. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 11:33:07 AM »

On another note:   I inadvertently dropped a whole box (big box) of screws on the ground.  In fact they were so many that I could not find them all.  I have to be more careful in the future.

Luckily the area is not a place I have to travel frequently.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 11:42:37 AM »

they can not take the whole ar15. Strip it apart and let go of the lower where the serial # is. The rest is just machined parts. There will be black market lowers with no serial #s out there to buy. Never was a fan of high cap mags. I can get the job done with more low count mags.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 12:21:43 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced. 

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path? 
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2020, 01:04:53 PM »

Droping that box of screws out in the woods was really strange.  I will have to watch myself in the future. 

I was having to replace the screws holding my deck boards down (well the deck boards also) because they were rusting through.  Even though they were listed for that purpose.  So,   I replaced them with stainless steel screws. 

More costly but....

I will have to make sure I don't drop this box.  They are hard to find and pickup when you do. 



I also have a nice 8" augur for my MF1250 tractor that I purchased for drilling some hole for some posts that I am just getting use to using. 

And then, today, I noticed that there were some piciese of 8" sewer pipe that I had used to provide some additional drainage in certain parts of the yard.  I have been putting off getting rid of them but they are taking up space so I will have to make a trip to the dump.   
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2020, 05:51:07 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2020, 05:54:56 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
Yes, it was. What would you call the president's tweets proclaiming "He Won" ? Flippant ? Rude ? Treasonous ? You haven't lost anything.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2020, 05:59:42 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
Yes, it was. What would you call the president's tweets proclaiming "He Won" ? Flippant ? Rude ? Treasonous ? You haven't lost anything.

Did you switch topics?  We were discussing Biden's plans.  He (or is team) announced the plan I discussed.  When they implement it, I will be made a criminal if I don't comply.  How is that not losing anything? 
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2020, 06:07:02 PM »

they can not take the whole ar15. Strip it apart and let go of the lower where the serial # is. The rest is just machined parts. There will be black market lowers with no serial #s out there to buy. Never was a fan of high cap mags. I can get the job done with more low count mags.  

It's not just ARs, it's all semi-auto rifles.  They are calling them weapons of war.  So absurd, they don't even know the difference between semi and full auto.   
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2020, 06:14:59 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
Yes, it was. What would you call the president's tweets proclaiming "He Won" ? Flippant ? Rude ? Treasonous ? You haven't lost anything.

Did you switch topics?  We were discussing Biden's plans.  He (or is team) announced the plan I discussed.  When they implement it, I will be made a criminal if I don't comply.  How is that not losing anything? 
I've heard this refrain for 20 years. "The Democrats are going to take your guns" MAYBE something will get passed. But, that's a big maybe. Nothing has passed. Philosophically, our differences boil down to one side is for unlimited armament, the other side is for a limited armament. Theoretical laws mean nothing. And, no it's not really switching topics. I view an ACTIVE President trying to subvert the vote of the people a non theoretical loss of freedom.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2020, 06:23:59 PM »

they can not take the whole ar15. Strip it apart and let go of the lower where the serial # is. The rest is just machined parts. There will be black market lowers with no serial #s out there to buy. Never was a fan of high cap mags. I can get the job done with more low count mags.  

It's not just ARs, it's all semi-auto rifles.  They are calling them weapons of war.  So absurd, they don't even know the difference between semi and full auto.   

 Biden sure has hell doesn't know the difference.  He called them AR14s you know. You're right Connie.  Most if not all anti gunners don't have any idea how guns work let along the difference between them.

 Semo97. What do you consider high capacity mags? 10,20,30, 100 rounds?  The 100 round Beta mags are notoriously unreliable, but if and or when you're facing 100+ Antifa terrorists you're gonna want the high cap mags. Just saying....
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2020, 06:32:58 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
Yes, it was. What would you call the president's tweets proclaiming "He Won" ? Flippant ? Rude ? Treasonous ? You haven't lost anything.

Did you switch topics?  We were discussing Biden's plans.  He (or is team) announced the plan I discussed.  When they implement it, I will be made a criminal if I don't comply.  How is that not losing anything? 
I've heard this refrain for 20 years. "The Democrats are going to take your guns" MAYBE something will get passed. But, that's a big maybe. Nothing has passed. Philosophically, our differences boil down to one side is for unlimited armament, the other side is for a limited armament. Theoretical laws mean nothing. And, no it's not really switching topics. I view an ACTIVE President trying to subvert the vote of the people a non theoretical loss of freedom.

There are plenty of other threads about Trump.  This one was about Biden's plans.  The purpose of 2A is to protect ourselves against the government.  A limited armament does not accomplish that goal.  Don't forget, Democrats have outlawed certain guns/accessories in the past.  They have also put many restrictions.  I have certain weapons that require registration.  I complied and paid for the tax stamps, but I still think is was a violation of my rights to require it.  Incrementalism is how they reach their goal.  
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2020, 06:34:54 PM »

He's coming after guns.  His controllers know they can't repeal 2A, so they are going to do run-arounds.  The first has already been announced.  

They plan to force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program or register their firearms, which requires payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s, other common household rifles, and each high-capacity magazines (more than 10 rds).  So, a household with just 2 semi-auto rifles with 4 mags for each would owe $2000.  Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.

However, make no mistake, this is not about the money (though it is a nice side), it's about creating a database of who to go after in their subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  Our country is broken Cry.  When do we resist?  What's our path?  
You have nothing to worry about. Trump has declared himself victorious in the election. "I WON THE ELECTION"

Pretty flippant response to the loss of our freedom that protects all of our other freedoms.  
Yes, it was. What would you call the president's tweets proclaiming "He Won" ? Flippant ? Rude ? Treasonous ? You haven't lost anything.

Did you switch topics?  We were discussing Biden's plans.  He (or is team) announced the plan I discussed.  When they implement it, I will be made a criminal if I don't comply.  How is that not losing anything?  
I've heard this refrain for 20 years. "The Democrats are going to take your guns" MAYBE something will get passed. But, that's a big maybe. Nothing has passed. Philosophically, our differences boil down to one side is for unlimited armament, the other side is for a limited armament. Theoretical laws mean nothing. And, no it's not really switching topics. I view an ACTIVE President trying to subvert the vote of the people a non theoretical loss of freedom.


 Yes we were. Part of Biden's plan is to take our ARs and other semi auto rifles away from us.  Don't deny it. He has said on many occasions that he is. He even wants Beto to head it up. If the Democrats win the Senate after the Georgia run-off it WILL happen. There will be no one to stop him.

 Trump is trying to assure a fair election and from the countless reports that I have seen point to evidence that it wasn't, weather you and your fellow liberals believe it or not. If the tables were reversed Biden would be doing the same thing and you know it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2020, 06:39:00 PM »

Part of Biden's plan is to take our ARs away from us.

It's not just ARs... the plan says ALL semi-automatic rifles.  
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2020, 06:47:16 PM »

Part of Biden's plan is to take our ARs away from us.

It's not just ARs... the plan says ALL semi-automatic rifles.  

Fixed it...
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2020, 06:50:44 PM »

I'm getting awfully tired of having my guns confiscated every time a democrat is elected then having to buy them again when a republican is elected. Someones making a fortune.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2020, 07:07:06 PM »

https://townhall.com/notebook/bethbaumann/2018/06/23/round-2-un-continues-their-push-to-disarm-americans-n2493580

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 06:01:20 AM »

 Connie commented on this on another thread. I saw a report on Biden's ban on semi auto firearms on Fox and Friends this morning. Basically it states that he wants to buy back semi auto firearms or make us pay a $200 tax on EVERY firearm and EVERY magazine that hold more then 10 rounds.

 First the buy back. How does the government buy back sometime they have NEVER owned? How much are they going to give us? $100, $200, $500, $1000 ??  Some of the higher end types of AR rifles can cost more than that. Are we just supposed to give them up without a fight.

 I haven't found what Biden considers which guns he wants to ban. One thing I found stated the all semi-auto firearms. That would include of course AR type,AK47s,SKS and other "military" types. But wouldn't that also include Ruger 1022s,Browning SA-22,Marlins...ect? I personally own two Ruger 1022s plus my wife's and the one I just built for my grand daughter for Christmas. There's $800 in taxes just for those 4 guns.

 Bottom line if you own more than one of these guns plus the mags at $200 a piece you could be looking at thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes. 

 Biden has said he wasn't going to raise taxes on those of us that make less then 400k a year. The majority of people that own these types of gun im sure make less the 400k, so what a surprise,Biden lied again !!
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 06:16:40 AM »

all part of the UN small arms treaty, which obama signed on for, President Trump rejected, now biden will embrace the UN globalist agendas which are the democrat party agendas.
the USC stands in the way of the Globalist agenda for one world govt plan.

Pray that President Trump and Truth prevails in the courts, otherwise this country is doomed. 70-100 million voters for Trump know this.
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 06:53:32 AM »

What i don't get is how many other constitutionally guaranteed rights are you taxed to exercise?  Go ahead, I'll wait.

The answer is none.   It's bad enough you have to pay and take a class to get a CCP.  I think all the protesters should all have to take training before they exercise their 1stA rights.  And make them put up $2000 each to cover the cost of any damages resulting from their "peaceful protests".
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 08:52:30 AM »

He can have mine, one bullet at a time. I will never buy is tax stamp for any gun that dosen't already have one. Him and all of his liberal counterparts can shove it up their ass. How many people is he willing to kill over this? I guarantee it will out number covid.
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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 08:58:43 AM »

what a surprise,Biden lied again !!

The horror.

He's had 47 years of practice.
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2020, 09:04:37 AM »

Connie commented on this on another thread. I saw a report on Biden's ban on semi auto firearms on Fox and Friends this morning. Basically it states that he wants to buy back semi auto firearms or make us pay a $200 tax on EVERY firearm and EVERY magazine that hold more then 10 rounds.

 First the buy back. How does the government buy back sometime they have NEVER owned? How much are they going to give us? $100, $200, $500, $1000 ??  Some of the higher end types of AR rifles can cost more than that. Are we just supposed to give them up without a fight.

 I haven't found what Biden considers which guns he wants to ban. One thing I found stated the all semi-auto firearms. That would include of course AR type,AK47s,SKS and other "military" types. But wouldn't that also include Ruger 1022s,Browning SA-22,Marlins...ect? I personally own two Ruger 1022s plus my wife's and the one I just built for my grand daughter for Christmas. There's $800 in taxes just for those 4 guns.

 Bottom line if you own more than one of these guns plus the mags at $200 a piece you could be looking at thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes. 

 Biden has said he wasn't going to raise taxes on those of us that make less then 400k a year. The majority of people that own these types of gun im sure make less the 400k, so what a surprise,Biden lied again !!
Yeah having a lying President is a bad thing.
If you’re worried about your guns go buy some more. Plenty for sale. How many guns do you need?
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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 09:07:27 AM »

Connie commented on this on another thread. I saw a report on Biden's ban on semi auto firearms on Fox and Friends this morning. Basically it states that he wants to buy back semi auto firearms or make us pay a $200 tax on EVERY firearm and EVERY magazine that hold more then 10 rounds.

 First the buy back. How does the government buy back sometime they have NEVER owned? How much are they going to give us? $100, $200, $500, $1000 ??  Some of the higher end types of AR rifles can cost more than that. Are we just supposed to give them up without a fight.

 I haven't found what Biden considers which guns he wants to ban. One thing I found stated the all semi-auto firearms. That would include of course AR type,AK47s,SKS and other "military" types. But wouldn't that also include Ruger 1022s,Browning SA-22,Marlins...ect? I personally own two Ruger 1022s plus my wife's and the one I just built for my grand daughter for Christmas. There's $800 in taxes just for those 4 guns.

 Bottom line if you own more than one of these guns plus the mags at $200 a piece you could be looking at thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes. 

 Biden has said he wasn't going to raise taxes on those of us that make less then 400k a year. The majority of people that own these types of gun im sure make less the 400k, so what a surprise,Biden lied again !!
Yeah having a lying President is a bad thing.
If you’re worried about your guns go buy some more. Plenty for sale. How many guns do you need?

 Just like anything in this country. AS MANY AS I FREAKING WANT. How's that for an answer?
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 09:18:52 AM »

Communists being communists, should be no surprise...

"Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party."

--Mao Zedong

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#

This makes it more important than ever that the good guys win the senate run offs in Georgia in January.
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 09:38:14 AM »

Connie commented on this on another thread. I saw a report on Biden's ban on semi auto firearms on Fox and Friends this morning. Basically it states that he wants to buy back semi auto firearms or make us pay a $200 tax on EVERY firearm and EVERY magazine that hold more then 10 rounds.

 First the buy back. How does the government buy back sometime they have NEVER owned? How much are they going to give us? $100, $200, $500, $1000 ??  Some of the higher end types of AR rifles can cost more than that. Are we just supposed to give them up without a fight.

 I haven't found what Biden considers which guns he wants to ban. One thing I found stated the all semi-auto firearms. That would include of course AR type,AK47s,SKS and other "military" types. But wouldn't that also include Ruger 1022s,Browning SA-22,Marlins...ect? I personally own two Ruger 1022s plus my wife's and the one I just built for my grand daughter for Christmas. There's $800 in taxes just for those 4 guns.

 Bottom line if you own more than one of these guns plus the mags at $200 a piece you could be looking at thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes. 

 Biden has said he wasn't going to raise taxes on those of us that make less then 400k a year. The majority of people that own these types of gun im sure make less the 400k, so what a surprise,Biden lied again !!
Yeah having a lying President is a bad thing.
If you’re worried about your guns go buy some more. Plenty for sale. How many guns do you need?

 Just like anything in this country. AS MANY AS I FREAKING WANT. How's that for an answer?
smitten   "shall not be infringed" isn't a hard concept to grasp

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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 10:01:38 AM »

I guess my posts now just go by the wayside.   Embarrassed
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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2020, 10:16:29 AM »

how can he buy back like said what they never owned in the 1st place?

really, my ruger 10.22 is up for grabs?  I only pd 200 bucks for it way back when that is all it is worth.   Gee, glad my shotguns and bolt action rifle all hold under 10 rounds.   

I suspect there are a few dozen on this board that have guns that can hold more than 10 bullets in them....    Yikes,  big trouble there.   Angry

pretty sure the NRA will have something to say about this, or for sure Ted Nugent... coolsmiley
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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2020, 10:26:28 AM »

How many guns?  Well my dad taught me to things that apply to several things including how many guns I should own.

1.  There’s always room for one more

2.  There’s always one more

Dad may not have been talking about guns but that’s irrelevant, it still applies
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2020, 11:37:53 AM »

All semi's  huh ?  I'm sure we all have some that are not considered those bad ole black assault guns.
I like my little semi's and am not about to give them up.

Regarding the tax thing on $400K. He says that out of one side of his then from the other side of his mouth he says the number is $137K. I don't think many folks make $137K/yr, but, just taking away Trumps tax cut from us is a tax increase the way I see it.
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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2020, 04:12:16 PM »


He says that out of one side of his then from the other side of his mouth

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they're talking about windmills and solar panels, not roads and bridges...

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« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2020, 04:18:42 PM »


He says that out of one side of his then from the other side of his mouth

I only just recently realized  Embarrassed that when they say "infrastructure"
they're talking about windmills and solar panels, not roads and bridges...

-Mike


Goal 9) Build resilient infrastructure, promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and foster innovation

Translation: Put nations into extreme debt with the World Bank, spending debt money to hire corrupt American corporations to build large-scale infrastructure projects that trap developing nations in an endless spiral of debt. See the book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins to understand the details of how this scheme has been repeated countless times over the last several decades.

Goal 7) Ensure access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy for all

Translation: Penalize coal, gas and oil while pushing doomed-to-fail "green" energy subsidies to brain-dead startups headed by friends of the White House who all go bankrupt in five years or less. The green startups make for impressive speeches and media coverage, but because these companies are led by corrupt idiots rather than capable entrepreneurs, they always go broke. (And the media hopes you don't remember all the fanfare surrounding their original launch.)

Goal 12) Ensure sustainable consumption and production patterns

Translation: Begin levying punitive taxes on the consumption of fossil fuels and electricity, forcing people to live under conditions of worsening standards of living that increasingly resemble Third World conditions. Use social influence campaigns in TV, movies and social media to shame people who use gasoline, water or electricity, establishing a social construct of ninnies and tattlers who rat out their neighbors in exchange for food credit rewards.

Goal 13) Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts

Translation: Set energy consumption quotas on each human being and start punishing or even criminalizing "lifestyle decisions" that exceed energy usage limits set by governments. Institute total surveillance of individuals in order to track and calculate their energy consumption. Penalize private vehicle ownership and force the masses onto public transit, where TSA grunts and facial recognition cameras can monitor and record the movement of every person in society, like a scene ripped right out of Minority Report.

https://www.naturalnews.com/051058_2030_Agenda_United_Nations_global_enslavement.html

 Michael Snyder published an important article entitled The 2030 Agenda: This Month The UN Launches A Blueprint For A New World Order With The Help Of The Pope.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-2030-agenda-this-month-the-un-launches-a-blueprint-for-a-new-world-order-with-the-help-of-the-pope

That article references this UN "2030 Agenda" document that pushes a blueprint for so-called "sustainable development" around the world.

This document describes nothing less than a global government takeover of every nation across the planet. The "goals" of this document are nothing more than code words for a corporate-government fascist agenda that will imprison humanity in a devastating cycle of poverty while enriching the world's most powerful globalist corporations like Monsanto and DuPont.

In the interests of helping wake up humanity, I've decided to translate the 17 points of this 2030 agenda so that readers everywhere can understand what this document is really calling for. To perform this translation, you have to understand how globalists disguise their monopolistic agendas in "feel good" language.

Here's the point-by-point translation. Notice carefully that nowhere does this document state that "achieving human freedom" is one of its goals. Nor does it explain HOW these goals are to be achieved. As you'll see here, every single point in this UN agenda is to be achieved through centralized government control and totalitarian mandates that resemble communism.
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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 05:31:33 PM »

          should b & h show up by themselves-NO secret service/military/L E O/or Any private service protection back up they Are free to give it a whirl. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:20 PM »

He can have mine, one bullet at a time. I will never buy is tax stamp for any gun that dosen't already have one. Him and all of his liberal counterparts can shove it up their ass. How many people is he willing to kill over this? I guarantee it will out number covid.

I have 2 weapons and 2 suppressors that each required a tax stamp.  I paid it, 'cause I really wanted them.  What gave me greater pause than the fees, was the registration, knowing that it would put me on "the list."  As I posted previously, make no mistake, the real reason for registration/tax stamp is to create a database of who they will go after first in subsequent gun-grabbing efforts.  

P.S.  For those who will warn me not to post specifics of gun ownership, it doesn't matter, I'm already on "the list."  
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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2020, 08:21:21 PM »

I suspect there are a few dozen on this board that have guns that can hold more than 10 bullets in them....    Yikes,  big trouble there.   Angry

I suspect there are a few dozen on this board that would be bankrupted by paying $200 for each semi-auto and each magazine.  It might bankrupt the country to buy them all at retail value.   Lips Sealed
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« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 08:25:14 PM »

Connie commented on this on another thread. I saw a report on Biden's ban on semi auto firearms on Fox and Friends this morning. Basically it states that he wants to buy back semi auto firearms or make us pay a $200 tax on EVERY firearm and EVERY magazine that hold more then 10 rounds.

 First the buy back. How does the government buy back sometime they have NEVER owned? How much are they going to give us? $100, $200, $500, $1000 ??  Some of the higher end types of AR rifles can cost more than that. Are we just supposed to give them up without a fight.

 I haven't found what Biden considers which guns he wants to ban. One thing I found stated the all semi-auto firearms. That would include of course AR type,AK47s,SKS and other "military" types. But wouldn't that also include Ruger 1022s,Browning SA-22,Marlins...ect? I personally own two Ruger 1022s plus my wife's and the one I just built for my grand daughter for Christmas. There's $800 in taxes just for those 4 guns.

 Bottom line if you own more than one of these guns plus the mags at $200 a piece you could be looking at thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes. 

 Biden has said he wasn't going to raise taxes on those of us that make less then 400k a year. The majority of people that own these types of gun im sure make less the 400k, so what a surprise,Biden lied again !!
Yeah having a lying President is a bad thing.
If you’re worried about your guns go buy some more. Plenty for sale. How many guns do you need?

Always one more. cooldude
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« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 08:43:40 PM »

I have 2 weapons and 2 suppressors that each required a tax stamp.

We need to talk guns it seems! I've got 5 NFA items, but they're all cans. Would love to hear what you've got, and what those two non-suppressor NFA items are! Smiley

(2 22 cans, 1 45 pistol can, 1 .30 caliber rifle can and a 12 gauge shotgun can (The joy of shooting a Saiga-12 with a 20 round drum suppressed has to be experienced!)

And yeah, I fully expect them, if we can't save the republic in Georgia, to put the $200 tax forward, have it get shot down (Pun not intended) and then "compromise" with a $5 tax stamp for "assault weapons" to get it through.

The money isn't what they're after.

The registration is.
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