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Do it while you can. I did.... it my way
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Robert
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 06:38:12 AM » |
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I am not surprised at all they called the lawyers on the case of the election fraud and made all kinds of threats.
What is sad is those who voted for Biden condone this.
China under Biden has already opened its doors to the US with a stipulation that we be good and they will sell to us.
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 06:39:52 AM by Robert »
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 06:40:34 AM » |
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Just remember - "what goes around , comes around".
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 06:56:23 AM » |
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1330626669170847747Good video that asks a real question through all of this we have not seen the Republican party do anything to support Trump, the elections, or the Maga March on Washington. They have not stopped the riots or done much of anything that I can see. A few maybe but what about the rest?
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 07:27:04 AM » |
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So much for unity
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 07:47:33 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 07:52:39 AM » |
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And next on the list, satellite photos of everyone with a Trump 2020 sign in their yard  |
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 07:57:55 AM » |
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And next on the list, satellite photos of everyone with a Trump 2020 sign in their yard Oh! I better put that sign back up |
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Bret SD
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 07:59:37 AM » |
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Selective outrage ----> 1984 style |
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 07:59:40 AM » |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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Wizzard
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 08:06:51 AM » |
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They don't want unity,, they want uniformity. Completely different
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2020, 08:16:22 AM » |
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yaeh, dudes an ahole, but that whiney snowflake bitch had itcoming. "OH no! igot breathed on! Gotta cancel Thanksgiving." Stupid snowflake is protesting! Everyone knows you can`t catch the rona at a protest. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2020, 08:34:15 AM » |
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Twitter Says It Will Make Biden @POTUS, Regardless Of Election Outcome
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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Willow
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2020, 08:56:07 AM » |
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I guess we see assholes from different perspectives. It's a short video. We don't see the context. Perhaps one of our attorneys will help or correct me but doesn't one have to touch someone else to be charged with assault. I wouldn't go straight to the asshole accusation for the idiot lady but she is an idiot. If she's "approaching 70" she is not in the highest risk category. At her age even if she catches the disease she has a 97% chance of recovery. Two more risky categories up they still have an 86% chance of recovery. Does assault include aggravating someone's stupidity? |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2020, 09:00:37 AM » |
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Well if he was gonna get charged with assault he should have hit her with a bike lock and made it worth his while.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2020, 11:49:29 AM » |
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And this has bugger-all to do with what? I get it that you are terrified that there might be a very small chance that Trump is reelected, but you're embarrassing yourself. |
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 12:05:41 PM » |
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Well if he was gonna get charged with assault he should have hit her with a bike lock and made it worth his while.
I believe that's when it becomes battery. |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 01:59:55 PM » |
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Well if he was gonna get charged with assault he should have hit her with a bike lock and made it worth his while.
I believe that's when it becomes battery. I believe you are right, but it would make me feel better. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 08:41:53 PM » |
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I guess we see assholes from different perspectives. It's a short video. We don't see the context. Perhaps one of our attorneys will help or correct me but doesn't one have to touch someone else to be charged with assault. I wouldn't go straight to the asshole accusation for the idiot lady but she is an idiot. If she's "approaching 70" she is not in the highest risk category. At her age even if she catches the disease she has a 97% chance of recovery. Two more risky categories up they still have an 86% chance of recovery. Does assault include aggravating someone's stupidity? I believe he could be charged with assault if he had COVID and knew he had it. I don't think he can be charged if he didn't have it or didn't know he had it. The conversation immediately before the breathing: The woman: "You don't get up in somebody's face." The breather: "I'm not in anybody's face." The woman: "You are in my face -- and you don't have a mask, so you need to back up." The breather: *Breathing* |
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 09:57:27 PM » |
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Traditionally/historically:
A battery is an unlawful/unwanted touching.
An assault is an attempted battery, without touching, but putting a victim in reasonable fear of an immediate unlawful/unwanted touching. Though with various diseases like AIDS this would regularly now include spitting at or perhaps even sending diseased wind at someone) (spitting being a serious problem in prison populations).
However the devil is in the details as old (criminal) common law is everywhere codified by statute language that is certainly not identical in every state (though many would be close).
Some have assault and battery as a single crime (with several or alternative definitions), but it is often referred to only as assault, just in brevity. Even by the cops and certainly the media and movies/TV. So assault has a legal definition in each state, but also a generic lay definition everywhere.
And then there are usually levels of culpability, like simple misdemeanor up to (felonious) aggravated assaults with a weapon or other means likely to cause death or serious bodily injury (like using knives or clubs or... shooting at someone and missing, or hitting someone with your car, which could also be the greater offense of attempted murder, if that was the actual provable intent).
Knowingly, intentionally trying to give someone a deadly disease could rightfully be charged as an assault (not that deadly) or even an aggravated assault (very deadly). (but you would have to have the disease, and know it, for the wrongful intent element of the crime to be complete) (though if you don't know and don't care, that might be enough bad intent these days)
So then we would have to assess the actual deadliness of the RONA (which is far less deadly than regularly advertised, though it can have some very nasty residuals), and we would also have to assess the actual reasonableness of the woman's fear or belief that she was really in jeopardy of a simple battery (easier), or even her life or great bodily harm (harder).
And while breathing on someone (from 2 inches or 4 feet?) would not ordinarily be something to be reasonably afraid of, the fear created by media and politicians is certainly heightened at present (very much on purpose). Making fear more reasonable.
And charges like this are to be expected right now to set examples, even if the cases are later dismissed, or plead down to spitting on the street or whistling in public.
I cannot conceive of a trial where Kyle Rittenhouse can be proven beyond any reasonable doubt to have committed intentional murder. That didn't stop them from laying on those charges anyway (and a 2 million bond no one thought he could ever make).
Politics should not influence the ordinary administration of the criminal justice system. The lady statue holding the scales of justice is supposed to be blind or blindfolded. But that is not always the case, and it seems worse now than ever. Defenders go to jail, and rioters go scott free.
The people and population are to be controlled, cowed and trained. Individual freedom and liberty are to be curtailed. The individual is nothing. The state (and party) are everything. Where have I heard this before?
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2020, 07:17:49 AM » |
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Thank you, Jess, and thank you, Connie.
In my opinion the context removes the validity of the accusation of defecation orifice.
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