UK approves vaccine

[Patrick]

UK approved Pfizer's vaccine ?  Where are we in all this ?

[hubcapsc]

UK approved Pfizer's vaccine ?  Where are we in all this ?

In the related stories on WSJ they say:

The FDA and the EMA have defended their slower approach.
Both agencies have rapidly compressed their own typical vaccine-approval
timelines, and both are expected to make a decision on the Pfizer vaccine
this month.

-Mike

[Serk]

UK approved Pfizer's vaccine ?  Where are we in all this ?

The FDA is going to have a meeting (And likely a decision) on December 10th.

[Patrick]

I'm kinda surprised we weren't first, but, I hope the fed doesn't take as long as they normally do. The end of the year would be good.

[f6gal]

Nov 23, our office received information that vaccine distribution was planned to start "next month" (I presumed that meant December).  It will go to health care workers and high risk population first.  The reason for the communication was to determine how many doses we will want for our office staff and who is requesting them.  The Pfizer vaccine requires two doses; I believe the first dose is 1/2 strength and the second full strength.  

[Beer van Huet]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where hundreds of thousands of people get their vaccin? Twice?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
These vaccins are made available in batches of 1000 pieces each. Can local doctors handle these quantities within their medical practices/primary care?
In my country with 18 million people, they figured it will take at least a year.
What's your opinion about this?

[Serk]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where millions of people get their vaccin?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
Is that made clear to you?

When money is no object, AND the bureaucrats and politicians (mostly) get out of the way, what us humans can accomplish is truly impressive.

[scooperhsd]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where millions of people get their vaccin?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
Is that made clear to you?

When money is no object, AND the bureaucrats and politicians (mostly) get out of the way, what us humans can accomplish is truly impressive.

And given enough time. I expect we will be finishing up towards the end of the summer, certainly by this time next year. I expect most people will be going to their usual primary care, but there will also be drive thru clinics as well. And they are promising NOBODY will be turned away from receiving the vaccine. You may have to pay something so they can keep track of who has received it, but that should be it.

[Serk]

And given enough time. I expect we will be finishing up towards the end of the summer, certainly by this time next year.

"All Americans who would like to receive a coronavirus vaccination will be inoculated by June, a top official of President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed said."

(Just in time for Inzane!)

https://nypost.com/2020/12/01/americans-who-want-covid-19-vaccine-will-have-it-by-june-official/

[hubcapsc]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where millions of people get their vaccin?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
Is that made clear to you?

They're rounding up all the places that might have the right equipment
and know-how... we have stuff like CVS pharmacies on "every corner"...
Also... grocery stores... I got my flu shot at the grocery store pharmacy the last
couple of years.

I'm imagining very long lines when it comes to the covid shot, though...
I want the shot, but don't want to get it in an opening-the-doors-on-black-friday
kind of environment   ... I bet it will be expensive to get the shot at the
doctor's office, but it might not be a mad-house there at least...

-Mike

[Serk]

I bet it will be expensive to get the shot at the
doctor's office, but it might not be a mad-house there at least...

Pfizer and BioNTech have set the initial price at $19.50 a dose, which comes to $39 per patient (since each vaccine requires a two-dose regimen)

And that's the cash price before insurance. Of course, what the doctor will tack on for doing the shot is anyone's guess...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiejennings/2020/11/17/how-much-will-a-covid-19-vaccine-cost/?sh=6071a066576d

[carolinarider09]

While not exactly the same but directly related,

When I got my last physical (February of this year) my doctor gave me a "prescription" for various shots she wanted me to get.  She did not offer any of them at her office.

And I did not ask if she would

Point being, I think it is becoming more and more unusual to get a "vaccination" at the doctors office. 

And while I am not thrilled about getting a vaccination of CVS, it appears to be the expected norm today.

[hubcapsc]

And while I am not thrilled about getting a vaccination of CVS, it appears to be the expected norm today.

The little indian feller at the Ingles (grocery store) I got my flu shot at is
the best shot-doer I ever had... what do you mean you're done already?

He's gone now (from that Ingles anyhow) but the other folks I've gotten
shots from seem fine, and nice too...

I got a shingrix shot recently. They were hard to get when I got the first one (it is a
two shot series) so I got it at the dr$ office. I got the second one at Ingles, they had
them then. They must have my insurance on file or something, because they just
gave me the shot and sent me on my way with no payment...

-Mike

[98valk]

https://rairfoundation.com/warning-renowned-virologist-sucharit-bhakdi-warns-against-hastily-created-gene-altering-coronavirus-vaccine-video/

[Serk]

https://rairfoundation.com/warning-renowned-virologist-sucharit-bhakdi-warns-against-hastily-created-gene-altering-coronavirus-vaccine-video/

It's a good thing neither of the two vaccines likely to be approved soon alter genes then.

[f6john]

I remember getting my polio shot at the elementary school on a weekend and the line was out the door and down the sidewalks and into the parking lot but they got’er done. I’m more than happy to wait for all the at risk, high risk folks to get theirs first.

[scooperhsd]

Yes, but I AM at least partly in the high risk group (old (60), a bit obese, and diabetic). I just want to know where I'm going to stand in getting it. I certainly think that medical workers / first responders ought to be first, followed by long Term care residents / staff, but I'm kind of fuzzy after that.

[f6gal]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where hundreds of thousands of people get their vaccin? Twice?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
These vaccins are made available in batches of 1000 pieces each. Can local doctors handle these quantities within their medical practices/primary care?
In my country with 18 million people, they figured it will take at least a year.
What's your opinion about this?

No where near 330 million will want the vaccine.  First, for initial vaccines, we should only count adults (209,128,094).  Children with no underlying medical problems are very low risk, if they get vaccinated at all, it won't be until much later.  So, of the 209,128,094 adults, many will refuse to get vaccinated; others will want to "wait and see," and still others have already had the virus and presumably have their own antibodies (i.e., they don't need the vaccine).  These factors considered, I anticipate about 60-65% demand in the adult population (roughly 130 million).

As for distribution, important considerations:

• It is projected that Pfizer and Moderna will provide 40 million doses in December.  AstraZeneca reports their first 4 million doses could be ready in December (40 million in first quarter 2021).
• Vaccines require 2 doses, 3-4 weeks apart (1st dose may be 1/2 dose, not determined yet).
• Pfizer vaccines will ship in 2 mL, 5 dose vials. Each shipping box contains 975 vials (4875 doses).  Each carton is surrounded by 50 pounds of dry-ice pellets to maintain temp below -70°C (-94°F).
• Once thawed, an undiluted vial can be kept in a refrigerator for five days.
• Once diluted, a vial must be discarded after 6 hours.

 
So, at least 22 million ppl can potentially start vaccinations in December; probably more, if the 2nd dose isn't until January.  The first roll out will go to health-care workers, first responders, and high-risk individuals (older age and/or underlying diseases).  I would expect older to be defined as 65 or 70.  

Based on the above noted distribution considerations, I would expect that facilities (hospitals, LTC/SNF facilities, pharmacies, etc) will be notified when their shipments are scheduled.  To minimize the need for super low temp storage, facilities could then schedule vaccination appointments within the 5 day refrigeration limit of each shipment.  This injections themselves could be given in the hospitals to employees (most already do this for flu shots and TB tests) and patients, resident facilities could give injections during a specific time frame (they already do this for flu shots), pharmacies can set appts within a specified time (even drive-thru)... the pharmacists can determine eligibility by employment (work ID) or high-risk individual by medication profile.  If a person doesn't have a med profile, they would have to have a prescription from their PCP.  I don't foresee individual primary care offices receiving distribution shipments; they could not possibly give that many doses in the required time frame.  

Anyway, that's how I would do it, if I was in charge.  But I'm not and they didn't ask me, so we'll see.  

[f6gal]

Yes, but I AM at least partly in the high risk group (old (60), a bit obese, and diabetic). I just want to know where I'm going to stand in getting it. I certainly think that medical workers / first responders ought to be first, followed by long Term care residents / staff, but I'm kind of fuzzy after that.

I doubt 60 y/o will move you up on the list, but obese and diabetes will. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where hundreds of thousands of people get their vaccin? Twice?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
These vaccins are made available in batches of 1000 pieces each. Can local doctors handle these quantities within their medical practices/primary care?
In my country with 18 million people, they figured it will take at least a year.
What's your opinion about this?

No where near 330 million will want the vaccine.  First, for initial vaccines, we should only count adults (209,128,094).  Children with no underlying medical problems are very low risk, if they get vaccinated at all, it won't be until much later.  So, of the 209,128,094 adults, many will refuse to get vaccinated; others will want to "wait and see," and still others have already had the virus and presumably have their own antibodies (i.e., they don't need the vaccine).  These factors considered, I anticipate about 60-65% demand in the adult population (roughly 130 million).

As for distribution, important considerations:

• It is projected that Pfizer and Moderna will provide 40 million doses in December.  AstraZeneca reports their first 4 million doses could be ready in December (40 million in first quarter 2021).
• Vaccines require 2 doses, 3-4 weeks apart (1st dose may be 1/2 dose, not determined yet).
• Pfizer vaccines will ship in 2 mL, 5 dose vials. Each shipping box contains 975 vials (4875 doses).  Each carton is surrounded by 50 pounds of dry-ice pellets to maintain temp below -70°C (-94°F).
• Once thawed, an undiluted vial can be kept in a refrigerator for five days.
• Once diluted, a vial must be discarded after 6 hours.

 
So, at least 22 million ppl can potentially start vaccinations in December; probably more, if the 2nd dose isn't until January.  The first roll out will go to health-care workers, first responders, and high-risk individuals (older age and/or underlying diseases).  I would expect older to be defined as 65 or 70.  

Based on the above noted distribution considerations, I would expect that facilities (hospitals, LTC/SNF facilities, pharmacies, etc) will be notified when their shipments are scheduled.  To minimize the need for super low temp storage, facilities could then schedule vaccination appointments within the 5 day refrigeration limit of each shipment.  This injections themselves could be given in the hospitals to employees (most already do this for flu shots and TB tests) and patients, resident facilities could give injections during a specific time frame (they already do this for flu shots), pharmacies can set appts within a specified time (even drive-thru)... the pharmacists can determine eligibility by employment (work ID) or high-risk individual by medication profile.  If a person doesn't have a med profile, they would have to have a prescription from their PCP.  I don't foresee individual primary care offices receiving distribution shipments; they could not possibly give that many doses in the required time frame.  

Anyway, that's how I would do it, if I was in charge.  But I'm not and they didn't ask me, so we'll see.  

I've been reading for a month or so about the need for these super low temp freezers. It seems to me with the shelf life being 5 days in a refrigerator, I don't see the big need. Surely there is going to be enough demand to go thru inventory quickly ?

[98valk]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/philadelphia-priest-dies-after-participating-moderna-covid-vaccine-trial

As millions of elderly Americans prepare to take COVID-19 vaccines that, according to numerous reports, can elicit some pretty serious post-2nd dose side-effects for a day or so, LifeSiteNews has reported that a Ukrainian Greek-Catholic priest died at his PA home after participating in Moderna's vaccine trial.

[scooperhsd]

The big need for the supercold freezers is to maximize vaccine life during transport. As Connie pointed out, after the vaccines are broke out for use, they are good for only 5 days in a normal fridge, so you are probably talking just short of 1000 shots per day per freezer. You might have a couple pharmacies (maybe more) sharing  a single supercold freezer's worth of vaccines.

The big headache will be efficient scheduling of people to be vaccinated to minimize waste.

This is after the headache of transporting the supercold freezers to the region / area.

[98valk]

https://newspunch.com/brits-told-to-get-a-vaccine-if-they-want-their-freedoms-back/

The UK’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer has told Britons they will need to get a coronavirus vaccine if they want their freedoms back.

Harsh restrictions will remain in place longer if Britons refuse to be vaccinated, Jonathan Van-Tam warned

The Independent reports: Van-Tam said the entire country was “fed up” with social distancing – but said “the dream” of ending it lay in the hands of ordinary people, weighing up whether to have a jab.

“If you want that dream to come true as quickly as it can come true, then you have to take the vaccine when it’s offered to you,” he told a press conference.


UN 2030 Agenda

Goal 3) Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages

Translation: Mandate 100+ vaccines for all children and adults at gunpoint( or more like, can't get a job, get get medical services., etc.), threatening parents with arrest and imprisonment if they refuse to cooperate. Push heavy medication use on children and teens while rolling out "screening" programs. Call mass medication "prevention" programs and claim they improve the health of citizens.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The big need for the supercold freezers is to maximize vaccine life during transport. As Connie pointed out, after the vaccines are broke out for use, they are good for only 5 days in a normal fridge, so you are probably talking just short of 1000 shots per day per freezer. You might have a couple pharmacies (maybe more) sharing  a single supercold freezer's worth of vaccines.

The big headache will be efficient scheduling of people to be vaccinated to minimize waste.

This is after the headache of transporting the supercold freezers to the region / area.

Maybe I'm not understanding it correctly. With just our normal shipping abilities with UPS, FedEx, Amazon, USPS we can do daily shipments with same day receiving. It seems like 4 or 5 strategically placed super freezers at airports around the country would work.

[f6john]

Yes, but I AM at least partly in the high risk group (old (60), a bit obese, and diabetic). I just want to know where I'm going to stand in getting it. I certainly think that medical workers / first responders ought to be first, followed by long Term care residents / staff, but I'm kind of fuzzy after that.

I doubt 60 y/o will move you up on the list, but obese and diabetes will. 

I’m 68, overweight, and diabetic with a history of cardiovascular disease, I’m still more than happy to be at the end of the line. I’ve made it ok thus far, I like my chances. Besides, Biden has got this!

[scooperhsd]

https://newspunch.com/brits-told-to-get-a-vaccine-if-they-want-their-freedoms-back/

The UK’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer has told Britons they will need to get a coronavirus vaccine if they want their freedoms back.

Harsh restrictions will remain in place longer if Britons refuse to be vaccinated, Jonathan Van-Tam warned

The Independent reports: Van-Tam said the entire country was “fed up” with social distancing – but said “the dream” of ending it lay in the hands of ordinary people, weighing up whether to have a jab.

“If you want that dream to come true as quickly as it can come true, then you have to take the vaccine when it’s offered to you,” he told a press conference.


UN 2030 Agenda

Goal 3) Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages

Translation: Mandate 100+ vaccines for all children and adults at gunpoint( or more like, can't get a job, get get medical services., etc.), threatening parents with arrest and imprisonment if they refuse to cooperate. Push heavy medication use on children and teens while rolling out "screening" programs. Call mass medication "prevention" programs and claim they improve the health of citizens.

If he was in America, I'd suggest he find a well guarded hole to hide in with a threat like that to the ordinary citizen.

[f6gal]

I really wonder how everybody will be vaccinated. I mean over 330 million US citizens. A huge logistic operation and nightmare, considering the distribution and cooling of vaccins, etc.
Will there be football stadiums where hundreds of thousands of people get their vaccin? Twice?
Or how about the elderly who are dependent on somebody coming over and give two vaccins? And who is going to keep track of this all?
These vaccins are made available in batches of 1000 pieces each. Can local doctors handle these quantities within their medical practices/primary care?
In my country with 18 million people, they figured it will take at least a year.
What's your opinion about this?

No where near 330 million will want the vaccine.  First, for initial vaccines, we should only count adults (209,128,094).  Children with no underlying medical problems are very low risk, if they get vaccinated at all, it won't be until much later.  So, of the 209,128,094 adults, many will refuse to get vaccinated; others will want to "wait and see," and still others have already had the virus and presumably have their own antibodies (i.e., they don't need the vaccine).  These factors considered, I anticipate about 60-65% demand in the adult population (roughly 130 million).

As for distribution, important considerations:

• It is projected that Pfizer and Moderna will provide 40 million doses in December.  AstraZeneca reports their first 4 million doses could be ready in December (40 million in first quarter 2021).
• Vaccines require 2 doses, 3-4 weeks apart (1st dose may be 1/2 dose, not determined yet).
• Pfizer vaccines will ship in 2 mL, 5 dose vials. Each shipping box contains 975 vials (4875 doses).  Each carton is surrounded by 50 pounds of dry-ice pellets to maintain temp below -70°C (-94°F).
• Once thawed, an undiluted vial can be kept in a refrigerator for five days.
• Once diluted, a vial must be discarded after 6 hours.

 
So, at least 22 million ppl can potentially start vaccinations in December; probably more, if the 2nd dose isn't until January.  The first roll out will go to health-care workers, first responders, and high-risk individuals (older age and/or underlying diseases).  I would expect older to be defined as 65 or 70.  

Based on the above noted distribution considerations, I would expect that facilities (hospitals, LTC/SNF facilities, pharmacies, etc) will be notified when their shipments are scheduled.  To minimize the need for super low temp storage, facilities could then schedule vaccination appointments within the 5 day refrigeration limit of each shipment.  This injections themselves could be given in the hospitals to employees (most already do this for flu shots and TB tests) and patients, resident facilities could give injections during a specific time frame (they already do this for flu shots), pharmacies can set appts within a specified time (even drive-thru)... the pharmacists can determine eligibility by employment (work ID) or high-risk individual by medication profile.  If a person doesn't have a med profile, they would have to have a prescription from their PCP.  I don't foresee individual primary care offices receiving distribution shipments; they could not possibly give that many doses in the required time frame.  

Anyway, that's how I would do it, if I was in charge.  But I'm not and they didn't ask me, so we'll see.  

I've been reading for a month or so about the need for these super low temp freezers. It seems to me with the shelf life being 5 days in a refrigerator, I don't see the big need. Surely there is going to be enough demand to go thru inventory quickly ?

I agree, if the inventory and scheduling are handled well, the deep cold storage shouldn't be a huge issue.  Several deep cold storage locations in each state may be appropriate.  My projected demand is around 130 million adults; with probable supply for 22 million (30 million if the first dose is 1/2).  So, yeah, demand will far outweigh supply in the beginning.  However, many of the projected 130 million ppl are young and healthy.  I think (hope) they understand the importance of allowing at risk ppl to get theirs first.  How quickly we go through that initial inventory will largely depend on how many facilities get shipments and the available staff to give injections.  From what I understand, they may use the military to help with distributions.  Of course, once all willing adults are vaccinated, they'll start on the kids.  

[Serk]

BTW, of the 2 vaccines likely to be approved in the coming weeks, only one requires the deep cold storage...

The other, as I recall, just requires a regular "Colder than your home freezer, but not exotic" freezer common to pharmacies and the like.

[Valkorado]

Coronavirus Vaccine Rumors Debunked

https://www.bbc.com/news/54893437

[98valk]

Coronavirus Vaccine Rumors Debunked

https://www.bbc.com/news/54893437

there are billions upon billions of dollars to be made. u think they will tell u the truth or play on peoples fears and lack of knowledge to make that money?

[scooperhsd]

If they would say "We have had zero adverse reactions" I would be extremely sceptical. If they would say "we have had x% adverse reactions, but we feel this is acceptable for most people" I would be more comfortable. Just like they are admitting there will be some reaction to the vaccine, but mostly what you get from other vaccines. As long as they are upfront about it I would be pretty comfortable with it.

[f6gal]

If they would say "We have had zero adverse reactions" I would be extremely sceptical. If they would say "we have had x% adverse reactions, but we feel this is acceptable for most people" I would be more comfortable. Just like they are admitting there will be some reaction to the vaccine, but mostly what you get from other vaccines. As long as they are upfront about it I would be pretty comfortable with it.

From my understanding, you should expect to feel like crap for a couple of days.  You may not, but it sounds like it's a bit worse than the flu shot in severity and numbers affected.  I get the flu shot every year and have never had a reaction of any kind.  So, we'll see.

[scooperhsd]

Still - I would rather feel like crap for a couple days from the vaccine than actually get the virus. Sign me up when they will take me

[f6gal]

Still - I would rather feel like crap for a couple days from the vaccine than actually get the virus. Sign me up when they will take me

Well, I will likely be in the early rounds, I'll let ya know.  Rams may have some input since he volunteered for a study.  But, then, he probably doesn't yet know if he got the vaccine or the placebo.

[Bret SD]

I will not be taking any vaccine, being near 62 and in good health my risk of expiration is near zero, even with current 'accepted' numbers being thrown about my risk is very low. If true numbers were being used I'm guessing the risk is at least 1/2 of what we're being told.

Fauci has said any testing done above 35 cycles is not accurate, the CDC guidelines are 40 cycles AFAIK. 'Cases' are being declared with no testing, COD is being attributed to covid in obvious cases of accidental death and otherwise. All cause year over year mortality rates remain unchanged in any significant way.. on and on it goes.. the flu has taken a break from killing this year it seems.

I trust no one.. media, politicians, political doctors, pharma, Gates.. none of them can be trusted. They can find plenty of people to inject with their new concoctions.. but I won't be one of them.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Still - I would rather feel like crap for a couple days from the vaccine than actually get the virus. Sign me up when they will take me

Well, I will likely be in the early rounds, I'll let ya know.  Rams may have some input since he volunteered for a study.  But, then, he probably doesn't yet know if he got the vaccine or the placebo.

I've been curious of Ron's experiences since he wrote about volunteering. I'd also be interested in your experiences.
 I'm 62 and in excellent health, regardless of the injuries I've subjected myself to over the decades. I will definitely be getting the vaccine. (Unless Connie tells me it came within a millimeter of doing her in) I will do it for the people around me I love, and my fellow citizens, more than anything. We all have to make our own choices.

[Patrick]

I'm still debating. I guess I'm at risk ,but, not really concerned about getting this kung flu. I think I'll wait and see.

[hubcapsc]

When I can get it, I will get it.

-Mike "looking forward to it being widely available..."

[Willow]

When I can get it, I will get it.

I feel sort of that way about the virus.  Not so much about the vaccine.   

[98valk]

https://vaccine-injury.info/history-of-vaccination.cfm

https://vactruth.com/2013/09/26/how-pharmaceutical-hide-dangers/

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/science/studies-comparing-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-populations/

all vaccines have aluminum in them, while we are being told to avoid aluminum due to Alzheimers but don't worry they can make more money off of u when u have it.

https://vactruth.com/2018/12/21/dangers-of-aluminum-adjuvants/

foreign proteins are injected into the body. God didn't design the body to deal with foreign proteins this way, only through digestion.  more research reveals these foreign proteins can be pork, other animals and insects.  remember they try to state they are safe but always refer to the ingredients being safe when ingested and not injected.

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/flu-shot-ingredients

Egg protein

Many flu vaccines are made by growing the viruses inside fertilized chicken eggs. This means that they contain a small amount of egg protein.

A newer version of the vaccine, called Flucelvax, is grown in animal cells instead.

Preservatives

Vaccine manufacturers add the preservative thimerosal to multidose vaccine vials. Thimerosal helps prevent and kill dangerous bacteria and fungi in the vial.

Thimerosal contains mercury, which can be toxic in large doses. There isn’t enough evidence to show the small amount contained in the flu vaccine is dangerous. But if you’re concerned, thimerosal-free versions of the flu vaccine are available.

Stabilizers

Sucrose, sorbitol, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) are used to keep vaccines stable. They prevent vaccines from losing potency, even when exposed to heat and light.

Sucrose is the same table sugar you spoon into your coffee. Sorbitol is an artificial sweetener that’s also found in chewing gum.

MSG is a flavor enhancer. Commonly thought of as an additive in Chinese food, it’s used in many processed foods. Though certain people are sensitive to MSG, the amount found in the flu vaccine is very small.
Antibiotics

Neomycin, gentamicin, and other antibiotics are added to vaccines in very small amounts. They stop bacteria from contaminating the vaccine.
Polysorbate 80

This emulsifier prevents sauces and salad dressings from separating. In vaccines, polysorbate 80 keeps all the ingredients evenly distributed.

Though large doses can cause some people to have reactions, the amount in the flu vaccine is very small.
Formaldehyde