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klb
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« on: December 05, 2020, 06:53:58 AM »

Still Valkyrie related since I have owned 3 and still have 2.
Got to thinking a while back Damn I have had a lot of bikes
over the years and remembered every one of them in order.

Just a few of these are stock photos but most are pictures
I took of the actual bikes. I have had a long obsession with
Motorcycles.

Second video is Mostly pictures of my 99 Standard.
With one VTX1800 and my first bike a 1977 XL75.

All Motorcycles owned video.
https://youtu.be/TR-M3JU8xbY

Mostly Valkyrie video.
https://youtu.be/zS9ti7HX068
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2020, 08:07:35 AM »

Wow, that's alot of bikes! Some really great ones there.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2020, 08:51:22 AM »

KLB,
Some very nice bikes there! I'm curious about your thoughts on the VTX vs Valkyrie, I've wanted to test ride a VTX for some time now, the 1800 in particular.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2020, 09:08:56 AM »

Whoa ! I thought I had owned a lot of bikes. You might have doubled me. It seems we have much in common with the choices also. Good tastes in bikes. Good taste in music (well, at least the Bob Seger) I hope to meet you on a ride some day. Thanks for sharing that. You've hit a few out of the park here lately.  cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2020, 10:08:29 AM »

KLB,
Some very nice bikes there! I'm curious about your thoughts on the VTX vs Valkyrie, I've wanted to test ride a VTX for some time now, the 1800 in particular.

After trading off my first Valk in 2006 for a new XR650L it didn't
take long for me to start wanting another one. I looked for a
while and couldn't find one in good shape so I settled for the
2008 VTX 1800 Tourer with only 364 miles on it.

Compared to the Valk it had about the same power but with more
low end grunt. Rode good but not near as comfortable as the
Valk. The two things that made me sell it off pretty quick were
the forward controls and the vibration my hands would go numb
very quick.

All of my years of riding dirt bikes with the pegs in the same
location of the Valks I just couldn't get used to my legs being
that far out in front of me. Riding in the mountains in the curves
I didn't feel as in control as on the Valk.

A very nice bike just not the total package like the Valkyrie IMO.



 

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2020, 10:13:28 AM »

Whoa ! I thought I had owned a lot of bikes. You might have doubled me. It seems we have much in common with the choices also. Good tastes in bikes. Good taste in music (well, at least the Bob Seger) I hope to meet you on a ride some day. Thanks for sharing that. You've hit a few out of the park here lately.  cooldude

 cooldude Bob Segar is like the Original Skynyrd to me never
heard a song I didn't like. The music on the 2nd video is kinda
out there but it fits my situation with these Valks. It is a sickness
with me not needing or wanting a cure.. Grin
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2020, 10:20:44 AM »

Now we need a Julio Iglesias/Willie Nelson duet - To All The Bikes I've Loved Before.......  cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2020, 10:24:14 AM »

KLB,
Some very nice bikes there! I'm curious about your thoughts on the VTX vs Valkyrie, I've wanted to test ride a VTX for some time now, the 1800 in particular.

After trading off my first Valk in 2006 for a new XR650L it didn't
take long for me to start wanting another one. I looked for a
while and couldn't find one in good shape so I settled for the
2008 VTX 1800 Tourer with only 364 miles on it.

Compared to the Valk it had about the same power but with more
low end grunt. Rode good but not near as comfortable as the
Valk. The two things that made me sell it off pretty quick were
the forward controls and the vibration my hands would go numb
very quick.

All of my years of riding dirt bikes with the pegs in the same
location of the Valks I just couldn't get used to my legs being
that far out in front of me. Riding in the mountains in the curves
I didn't feel as in control as on the Valk.

A very nice bike just not the total package like the Valkyrie IMO.



 


Thanks KLB, that's good info.

 A friend of mine has one but I've never ridden his, we're talking about riding to ther mountains one day so maybe I'll get to ride his. He's pretty busy with young twins and his business.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2020, 10:39:22 AM »

Now we need a Julio Iglesias/Willie Nelson duet - To All The Bikes I've Loved Before.......  cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 10:57:34 AM »

Thanks KLB, that's good info.

 A friend of mine has one but I've never ridden his, we're talking about riding to ther mountains one day so maybe I'll get to ride his. He's pretty busy with young twins and his business.
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 cooldude It will be a exciting ride on the VTX. All that torque
right off idle will definitely be different.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2020, 11:07:04 AM »

I don't have videos or many photos of old bikes.

I wrote this a couple of years ago and keep it updated.




BSA C15
249 cc.
Single cylinder, chain drive. First motorcycle ridden at the age of 13. Belonged to a Sixth Former (Senior) at boarding school. How he persuaded the authorities to let him have the bike on premises I don’t know. An older fellow student, Charlie, once tried to attack me with a brick whilst I was riding on the driveway towards the paddock; I let go of the clutch by mistake, did a wheelie and nearly flattened him. He left me alone after that not realizing that I had reared up by mistake. Charlie much later took part in a bank raid near London’s Heathrow airport. Was cornered by the police, shot his female accomplice dead and then successfully shot himself.




Honda Benly CS90
90cc, single cylinder, chain drive. Mine had a full fairing on which was very handy for riding to my first job at age 16. Worked for a local newsagent, had to be at work at 5.30am rain, snow or shine. This machine was used and abused. I learned a lot about engine maintenance!!!


650cc twin
2 cylinder, chain drive. This bike belonged to a big burly biker guy who had a large double adult sidecar fitted. He parked it most days behind the local newsagents I worked at by the railway station. I eventually realized that all I had to do was turn the ignition knob to on (no key) and I could kick start the monster to get it going. Then I used to borrow it (steal to be truthful) at lunchtime and go tearing around the local country lanes. After a couple of weeks I realized that I must have had a death wish, the owner would have beaten me black and blue.




Lambretta TV175
Engine: 175cc
H.P. 8.6hp @ 6000rpm
Fuel Consumption: 123mpg
Top Speed: 56mph

Quit the newsagents and started work for a commercial grass cutting landscaping company working at the local R.A.F. base. This scooter had such tight steering that I could lay down on the seat at 60mph and it would track straight and true. Stripped the engine down once and after reassembly had about 6 pieces left over. The thing still ran!!!



Velocette LE MKII
200cc
Shaft drive, water-cooled, flat twin, hand pull start, hand gear change. Ridden by the Police in England, known affectionately as a Noddy Bike (after a storybook character – Noddy). Eventually the left hand spark plug thread stripped so I took the cylinder head off and rode the bike side saddle for a couple of weeks so as to not get petrol and oil on my left leg. Eventually sold to a mechanic who wanted an old project bike.






Honda CB 200
200cc, 2 cylinder. This bike heralded my return to 2 wheels some 5 years later. English law at the time dictated that a learner could only ride up to a 250cc bike. I wanted something bigger and borrowed this from a local dealer on the understanding that I would take my test and purchase a bike from him. At the time I was a driving instructor in Leicester so knew the test route like the back of my hand. I had a couple of adventures on the bike before taking my test. Approached a large junction on a horrendously rainy night only to have a stop light change to red in front of me, the back wheel locked up and I skidded nearly sideways through the junction. Seemed that the rear shocks were shot. Dealer was embarrassed and changed them. I rode to see some friends one night about 20 miles away on twisty country roads. Came around a bend to find about 15 large white cows in the roadway, how I swerved and weaved through them I don’t really know, I ended up as white as a milk shake.
Took my test and passed even though during the test a car drove at me the wrong way down a narrow one way street. The test examiner told me that the sight of me standing on the foot pegs yelling at the driver had made his day.




400cc, 2 cylinder, chain drive
Honda CB400T. The bike I bought and regretted after running it in. A bland, boring, gutless piece of Jap Crap. Sold it.



Laverda 1000cc, 3 cylinder, chain drive. Fast, wonderful handling brute. Pulled to 60mph in first gear. Terrible to ride around town but orgasmic on the open road. This is the bike that took me to over 150mph on the M40 early one fine summer morning – Wheeeee.
Sold so I could pursue a new job as a despatch rider in London, had to have a more suitable bike.


 Honda CX500
500cc, V twin, water cooled, shaft drive, 112mph (not). Not a patch on the Laverda but a great despatch bike. Comfortable saddle (riding 1,000 miles a  week), low maintenance. Had this for about 2 years. Very early one morning in the company of a friend on a Suzuki GS1000 I raced down the Edgware Road in North London. Keith got chased by a Flying Squad (police) car and was stopped doing 130mph in a 30mph zone. He didn’t get a ticket they just wanted to make sure the bike hadn’t been stolen.



Honda CB400F,
400cc, 4 cylinder, chain drive. A great mini version of the CB750. Rode quite a few of these belonging to friends. Very nimble but too small for prolonged riding. I’d see other despatch riders on the motorway riding these and they would look shaken about.


Yamaha RD400, two stroke twin, power band crazy, wheelie at 40mph.



Kawasaki GPZ550, four cylinder, chain drive, pocket rocket.
This replaced the CX500 and what a transformation. Like getting off a broken down horse and climbing into a F16.  This made despatch riding even more fun. The foot pegs had small balls welded on the underside of them and the foot pegs also folded up about 5 degrees. I wore the balls off the underside of the foot pegs With a new set of Dunlop TT100’s this bike would handle so well. I really enjoyed roundabouts; on a dry day I had a smile wider than a Cheshire Cat.








Yamaha XS750, three cylinder, shaft drive. Rode one of these about 10 yards down a dirt road, fell off and unfortunately the owner riding pillion ripped his brand new imported Levis 501’s. Didn’t get to ride the bike again


BMW R100RS. Flat twin, shaft drive.
Rode a friends that had cylinder head crash bars fitted and managed to chamfer off a good portion of the right hand one.

Honda Benly 200cc, 2 cylinder, chain drive.
The Kawasaki died a sudden and painful death when its rear mono suspension collapsed. This Benly became my despatch bike. Luckily the friends I worked for gave me pickups and deliveries that entailed chugging from one side of London to the other. The Benly would cruise at about 65mph all day and return about 70mpg around town. Took me to the South of France 3 times in the company of larger bikes. Never missed a beat and was eventually retired after 35,000 miles of use when I quit despatch riding. Ended up giving it to a collector of motorcycles who wanted a small project bike to work on.





 Had a 1998 Valkyrie Honda which I bought in April of 2002. Ridden over 50,000 miles in 4 years. A very large 1500cc, 6 cylinder, six-carb behemoth that handles very well. Bit of a gas guzzler. Gets about 32mpg to the American gallon. The bike has taken me out to Colorado, Sturgis – South Dakota, western Canada and the whole length of the Blue Ridge Parkway (twice). Mostly ridden around north Georgia and the neighboring states of North and South Carolina with frequent forays into eastern Tennessee. Sold in 2006.

Picked up a lightly used (1,500 miles) 2005 Honda ST1300 in February 2006 in Fort Worth, TX. Rode it back to Atlanta, 850 miles in 14 hours of riding. 5,400 on April 12th, 2006.
27,000 miles March 12, 2007.
46,000 January 28, 2008.
90,000 miles March 17, 2012.
120,000 miles August 2014.
135,000 miles August 2016. Destoryed in house fire

2005 KLR purchased in September of 2010 (12,541 miles). Rode for 13,000 miles. Sold February 2012.


1998 Valkyrie bought September 2016 with 38,000 miles on the clock. Now it has 80,000 miles in December 2020.

There are other bikes I’ve ridden or owned but nothing really stands out about them. Apart from the Yamaha 90cc moped, which would stand on its rear light when you quickly engaged the foot operated clutch/gear change. A gfun post pub trick to amuse the onlookers.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2020, 11:11:22 AM »

While I'm reminiscing.


5 years full time as a f’ln lunatic motorcycle messenger in London in the early 80's.

Had lived in London for about 18 months. Hated the job I was doing and thought I knew every street Ha-bloody Ha-ha.

Got a job at Pony Express cause I was a warm body on a Honda 400 twin – piece of crap. Looked the dogs bollocks in cowboy boots – what a plonker.

Soon moved on to high tech Belstaff waxed cotton jacket and pants. What a load of crap that was. Wore Wellington boots everyday and thick wool socks. No frickin Gortex back then. Feet so hot and sweaty the weave of the sock would get embedded into the sole of your feet. Your feet looked like white playdough at the end of the day. Closest I’ve ever come to getting trench foot. The Belstaff had to be treated nearly every day otherwise it would leak like a sieve at all the creases like your elbows.

Handlebar muffs that pushed back onto the brake and clutch levers so you had to ride with your left fingers extended straight to stop the clutch slipping. The snugglers would fill up with water when parked in the rain. And of course it snuggling rained. It was London. Rain, rain, rain. After a few months you became immune to it. Cause then it got cold and it snuggling rained. Wore so many layers I could have steamed a piece of fish in my armpit.

 Learned  how to ignore all rules of the road except for red lights. Never jumped a one.
 Learned  all the traffic light phasing for central London.  
Learned  where all the least used payphones were.
Learned to chat up the receptionists so you could use their phone to call in.  
Learned  where it was quicker to walk 25 yards down an alley than ride half a mile around the block.  
Learned  how to fix flats in the dark and rain by the gloom of a street light – if you were lucky. The rain puddles came in useful for locating the hole in the tube.  
Learned  where all the bus stops and turns were so you didn’t get squeezed by them.  Learned  which way streets were numbered.
Learned  how to get around traffic snarl ups due to IRA bomb scares.  
Learned  that the Guardian newspaper bag was the best at keeping packages dry.

Hated in this order Black cabs, Royal Mail lorries and Volvo drivers. Still hate Volvo drivers.

Rode the wrong way down one-way streets. Rode up flights of steps.  Rode, paddled the bike on the sidewalk when the traffic backed up. Could squeeze thru gaps with about an inch each side at 40 miles an hour and then do it again, again, again. Knew the correct speed to get thru the timed lights in Slough without getting caught at a red light.

Carried the master tape for Supertramp – Crime of the Century. Other important bits and bobs for RAK Records plus many other record companies whose names I’ve forgotten. Went into so many business’s and private homes you lot couldn’t imagine. Had a cuppa with Sting in Hampstead in his gaff near the pub on the one-way system. I had no idea who the Gordon Sumner was the delivery was addressed to.

Got stopped by the Special Branch (police) who couldn’t wait any longer to take a look inside the metal briefcase I had strapped to my bike. I’d had it there for a bout 2 hours as I skipped from delivery to pick up across London. It had about $80,000 of cocaine in it. They’d been watching and sweating that no one would steal it. Wanted me to wait for them to bring their own fake courier bike to deliver it. I’d been paid as a cash job so I didn’t care what happened to it. Figured that the customer wouldn’t be using us again so I buggered off.

Had to pick up dry cleaning, McDonald's, deliver presents to wives and girlfriends. – don’t mix those up – the girlfriends presents were always wrapped better. Paid parking fines. Delivered coffee.

IBM used Pony Express for a multi drop job once a week. This was something like 25 or 30 pick ups and drop offs starting in West London at 4 in the morning and ending up in Essex. Quicker you did it the sooner you got on with the rest of the day. That was a hoot absolutely flying across London with minimum traffic until the worker bees started emerging at around 7am. One time in winter I walked into the last drop and jumped up and down on the entry mat. The front of me fell off. I was cased in frozen slush from neck to crotch and knees to ankles.

Move onto Delta Dispatch cause Pony Express got bought out and sucked. Did buy a green / white leather jacket subsidized by Pony Express that had the horse rider Pony Express logo on the back. Fitted some arrow shafts to the back and staggered into Wells Fargo bank yelling Indians, Indians. Security guards didn’t think it was funny.

Delta Dispatch had better radios so not as much standing around phone boxes but you could tell when the money jobs were being handed out cause a rider would be told to call in.  After a couple of months I was one of them cause I was a regular long hour suck up the crap jobs brown noser. I discovered Helly Hansen yachting gear which was 100% waterproof on the outside. This rubberized pull over top was like wearing a tropical rain forest next to your skin BUT it kept out the wet and the wind.

Pulled up next to a grey Ford XR3i turning off Picadilly.The attractive young blonde woman driving saw me leching at her and put her finger to her mouth in a Ssssh manner. Realized it was the young Diana. Nodded my head and looked away. A couple of weeks later the engagement was announced. After that I started carrying a cheap camera with me and earned extra money as a snapper. Took photos of all the “faces” I saw on the streets. Police action etc. The Daily Mail and Express bought my photos. I didn’t ask for a credit – plonker - but the money was welcome. I would dash into the paper and drop off the roll of film and let them decide if they wanted it. Started to carry a pager so they could text me yes / no and the money. If they didn’t want it I’d pick up the negatives and drop them at another paper. Could have made more money but enjoyed riding my bike – masochist. Part of it was just for the adrenaline zipping across London when the dispatcher thought I was in place A and I was in place B and having to get to place C for the next pick up.

Carried a check for 300 million pounds from Esso (now Exxon) to the taxman.
Carried original blueprints for oil refineries. 6 foot tube - that was fun bungee strapped across my back.

Watching a messenger get wrapped around the rear axle of a 18 wheeler who got pissed off at him. Didn’t die – lost both legs. Driver jailed for 20 years cause of my testimony. Yeah I embellished the truth a little to make sure the jury got pissed at him.

Had a good young friend Guy get killed by another wanker. Elton John wrote a song for him.

Riding down Hanger Lane on a CB200 splitting lanes between a van and flat bed 18 wheeler. Van moves over and I end up with my right handlebar and mirror under the flat bed with about to squash me snuggling dead wheels in front and behind me. That taught me a lesson.

Smelling burnt wiring on my bike, panicking and then remembering I was going past the coffee factory near Hanger Lane. Did this so many times I felt a right taco.

Racing Keith on his GS1000 from a red light on the Edgeware Rd at 3 in the morning. I’m on a CX; he leaves me standing. A dark blue Triumph 2.5 PI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_2500) whips by with police alarm clanging. Down the road Keith is stopped with police car. I mosey on by looking the other way and circle back to find both him and car gone. Get back to Clapham to find Keith already at the apartment 3 of us shared. It was a Special Branch car and they wanted to make sure he hadn’t stolen the bike. The only rider I know who got pulled doing 120 in a 30 and rode away scot-free.

Going to work early so I could go around and around Marble Arch hanging off a GPZ550 scraping the pegs.

Being seduced by Middle Eastern brown eyes behind a yashmak in a Roller when the oil money came to town in a BIG way.

Getting knocked off by a Nigerian Embassy car – they paid me off cause I had a small hole in my skin on my knee.

Racing down Park Lane with other messengers. Absolutely nuts.

Never got busted by the police – how this happened still amazes me.

Averaged about 200 miles a day every day for 5 years. Thatsa lotta kerb side oil changes, chain lubes and chain adjustments. Bikes were on the whole pretty reliable although the sub frame on the GPZ550 did break. Didn’t notice for a couple of days until I noticed how low the bike was sitting. Stripped it down, got it welded, reassembled and ran it into the ground.

Spraying the inside of your face shield with anti fog every night knowing it would last about 30 minutes in the next days rain.

Drinking too many pints in various pubs after work and then zooming home and up early to do it all over again.

Knowing where every pothole and manhole cover was in central London.

Knowing when the Changing of the Guard took place so as to keep away from the tourist hordes. http://www.changing-the-guard.com/

Putting pennies on top of the front fork springs on a CX500 (English pennies were bloody big) to help stiffen the front up.

Seeing the Queen Mother cruise down Bond St. in her Roller whilst shoe shop salespeople brought boxes of shoes for her to look over. The bodyguards popping in and out of her limo like ferrets in a rabbit warren.

Having a bank account in Mayfair – hey it was convenient – and getting a kick out of depositing my pay check every week noticing the other clients looking a bit miffed that a messenger was rubbing shoulders with them.

Using a Yamaha 90cc step through moped whilst the CX was off the road waiting for parts. Popping little wheelies on the Yamaha at Oxford Circus. The dispatchers took pity on me and kept me in town or they gave me a series of pickups and drops spanning the whole of central London.

Riding through Spitalfields Meat Market and getting cursed at by the butchers and their boys as I weaved past blood stained white coats carrying slabs of near quivering meat.

Getting annoyed with myself when I had to use an A-Z Streetfinder to look an address up.

Getting really annoyed at wannabe Black Cab drivers wobbling around the streets on their mopeds learning “The Knowledge”. The plonkers would simply stop in the middle of the road looking for street addresses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_the_United_Kingdom

Some messenger friends left Delta to start their own company. Holborn Globetrotters (amazing the names you can think of after a spliff or two). The company is still going strong 25 years later http://www.londononline.co.uk/profiles/78073/ although Ken left to live the hippy, organic life in Wales or SW England somewhere. As far as I know Keith (he of the Special Branch stop mentioned earlier) is still running the company.

Located a few blocks east of the British Museum this more central location was great for jobs so I bailed from Delta and worked for them. No radios which was a bummer, but no weekly fees which was good. By now all the receptionists in London knew messengers wanted to use a phone so no radio wasn’t too much of a pain for the riders. It did mean the little Hitlers aka dispatchers really had to ramp up their game to make sure all jobs were picked up quickly. A BIG plus was that a higher percentage of the jobs were cash – luverly jubbly – shaking out yer pockets at the end of the day and adding to the jar on the chest of drawers. Very fiscally responsible and all declared to Her Majesty’s Customs and Excise Ha ha.

What a bunch or rascals and vagabonds we were. A very tightly knit group who really looked after each other. Bikes were fixed, lent, stolen from each other, sold, resold so that everyone could keep ripping up the streets of London. snuggle Baker Street and Gerry Rafferty – nothing to do with the thread just hated that song. Baker Street was a real pain to use.

The police used BMW’s and they could really cut through traffic. Seemed to be used for escorting The Royal Family and visiting heads of state. The lead rider would have a whistle to get road users attention and if you heard the whistle you’d better move cause they would steam roller you out of the way. One day one of the local street characters, a little old guy nicknamed Titch, was doing his usual traffic-directing act from a traffic island in the middle of  Clerkenwell Rd when a bike cop pulled up next to him. This cop was a large beefy, red faced, red haired S.O.B who I’d seen around town quite a bit looking officious. Well he pulls up next to Twitch and his best cop voice ask “What the hell are you doing” because of course only cops can direct traffic. Titch in his best Titch voice calmly replied, “Why don’t you snuggle off” and gave him the English bird. Well the cop went bright red as all the onlookers laughed. Sensibly he decided to go fight another battle and gathering all his dignity rode away with that straight backed posture that only Beemer riders seem to have.

Didn’t think anything of finishing work on a Friday night and riding a couple of hundred miles to visit friends outside of London. The riding became such a part of a messengers life it just seemed natural.

One day I’m in bum snuggle can’t remember where in the countryside on a roller coaster 2 lane road. It’s 4.30 in the morning and I’m heading away from London on THE cash job of the day. Summer time, not raining, and the sun is peeking. I see a single headlight in my mirror and figure it’s a guy on the way to work so I keep ripping up the road. The bike behind zips by me and the rider gives me a thumbs up. It’s a cop on a cop bike and if I’m doing 20 over he’s got to be doing 50 over. So I tuck in behind him and get escorted for about the next 25 miles. We zip by other vehicles like jet fighters.

Slowly an undeclared war developed between messengers and other road users as traffic became more congested. Leann had a swift answer to road rage. She had a 1lb lump hammer secured in a clip on her gas tank. If someone pissed her off she’d pull up next to them at a stoplight. As the light went green she’d smash their wing mirror and zoom away.

I never resorted to those tactics I’d just move the mirror so they couldn’t see out of it.

Lots of messenger companies sprang up with riders thinking they were going to get off the road and earn big money. They’d hire anyone on 2 wheels and most couldn’t ride a bike let alone cope with the demands of city traffic. I soon got to recognize the sound of a bike wrecking. There’s something unmistakable about metal and plastic hitting blacktop. I’d say that 95% of the time it was rider error. They’d see a gap and try to squeeze through or they’d hit blind pedestrians. Too much pressure from the dispatchers and not enough common sense.

Note my riding had got more sensible or I’d just got much better. I swear there were days when I could feel the vehicles around me and see pathways through the traffic before the gaps opened. It was a very meditative state of mind. Hard to explain without sounding like a complete nut job. I don’t remember being on the brakes , on the gas, on the brakes, on the gas. Speed wasn’t always your best friend it was being able to read the traffic flow and use the road accordingly. BUT you know there were days when I’d be completely hugged without a drop of adrenaline left in me and those days were good. It just felt much safer to be weaving through the traffic rather than being stuck in a hole with no way out.

Most of the time as a messenger was pretty boring but looking back it was some of the best working years of my life to date.

The people I rode with were in the main outstanding riders, not at the same level as track riders but as street riders. A completely different breed.

I worked from 1983 to 1988 and quit at the age of 35 when I had to be dragged off a Black Cab driver in the Wandsworth one-way system. The bastard had tried to push me into the fence at the edge of the sidewalk and I snapped. Too many close calls with people trying to kill me. Yep I honestly believe most of the Black Cab drivers would try to clip you cause we had taken a lot of work from them. So I got a real job and moved to the countryside. Gave the bike I’d been using, a CB200, to a friend who wanted a small bike to restore.

Didn’t ride again until 2002 when I bought a Valkyrie. Sold that and got a ST1300 in 2006. Another Valkyrie in 2016 Have ridden over 250,000 miles in the past 18 years.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2020, 07:51:12 PM »

Cool video I wish I had pictures of all my bikes and cars!

BIKES
Started on the dirt at 13
Yamaha JT 60
YZ 80
Then at 16 added street bikes
Push moped
Honda CL 175 
Honda hawk 400
Yamaha Virago 750
Honda XL 250
Honda V45 750
Honda xl 600
Kawasaki Vulcan 1500
Valkyrie 1500
Honda Goldwing 1800 current
I only own one at this time but I have own as many as three at once but only for a short while.
Lots of great memories!
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2020, 04:15:27 AM »

While I'm reminiscing.


5 years full time as a f’ln lunatic motorcycle messenger in London in the early 80's.

Had lived in London for about 18 months. Hated the job I was doing and thought I knew every street Ha-bloody Ha-ha.

Got a job at Pony Express cause I was a warm body on a Honda 400 twin – piece of crap. Looked the dogs bollocks in cowboy boots – what a plonker.

Soon moved on to high tech Belstaff waxed cotton jacket and pants. What a load of crap that was. Wore Wellington boots everyday and thick wool socks. No frickin Gortex back then. Feet so hot and sweaty the weave of the sock would get embedded into the sole of your feet. Your feet looked like white playdough at the end of the day. Closest I’ve ever come to getting trench foot. The Belstaff had to be treated nearly every day otherwise it would leak like a sieve at all the creases like your elbows.

Handlebar muffs that pushed back onto the brake and clutch levers so you had to ride with your left fingers extended straight to stop the clutch slipping. The snugglers would fill up with water when parked in the rain. And of course it snuggling rained. It was London. Rain, rain, rain. After a few months you became immune to it. Cause then it got cold and it snuggling rained. Wore so many layers I could have steamed a piece of fish in my armpit.

 Learned  how to ignore all rules of the road except for red lights. Never jumped a one.
 Learned  all the traffic light phasing for central London. 
Learned  where all the least used payphones were.
Learned to chat up the receptionists so you could use their phone to call in. 
Learned  where it was quicker to walk 25 yards down an alley than ride half a mile around the block. 
Learned  how to fix flats in the dark and rain by the gloom of a street light – if you were lucky. The rain puddles came in useful for locating the hole in the tube. 
Learned  where all the bus stops and turns were so you didn’t get squeezed by them.  Learned  which way streets were numbered.
Learned  how to get around traffic snarl ups due to IRA bomb scares. 
Learned  that the Guardian newspaper bag was the best at keeping packages dry.

Hated in this order Black cabs, Royal Mail lorries and Volvo drivers. Still hate Volvo drivers.

Rode the wrong way down one-way streets. Rode up flights of steps.  Rode, paddled the bike on the sidewalk when the traffic backed up. Could squeeze thru gaps with about an inch each side at 40 miles an hour and then do it again, again, again. Knew the correct speed to get thru the timed lights in Slough without getting caught at a red light.

Carried the master tape for Supertramp – Crime of the Century. Other important bits and bobs for RAK Records plus many other record companies whose names I’ve forgotten. Went into so many business’s and private homes you lot couldn’t imagine. Had a cuppa with Sting in Hampstead in his gaff near the pub on the one-way system. I had no idea who the Gordon Sumner was the delivery was addressed to.

Got stopped by the Special Branch (police) who couldn’t wait any longer to take a look inside the metal briefcase I had strapped to my bike. I’d had it there for a bout 2 hours as I skipped from delivery to pick up across London. It had about $80,000 of cocaine in it. They’d been watching and sweating that no one would steal it. Wanted me to wait for them to bring their own fake courier bike to deliver it. I’d been paid as a cash job so I didn’t care what happened to it. Figured that the customer wouldn’t be using us again so I buggered off.

Had to pick up dry cleaning, McDonald's, deliver presents to wives and girlfriends. – don’t mix those up – the girlfriends presents were always wrapped better. Paid parking fines. Delivered coffee.

IBM used Pony Express for a multi drop job once a week. This was something like 25 or 30 pick ups and drop offs starting in West London at 4 in the morning and ending up in Essex. Quicker you did it the sooner you got on with the rest of the day. That was a hoot absolutely flying across London with minimum traffic until the worker bees started emerging at around 7am. One time in winter I walked into the last drop and jumped up and down on the entry mat. The front of me fell off. I was cased in frozen slush from neck to crotch and knees to ankles.

Move onto Delta Dispatch cause Pony Express got bought out and sucked. Did buy a green / white leather jacket subsidized by Pony Express that had the horse rider Pony Express logo on the back. Fitted some arrow shafts to the back and staggered into Wells Fargo bank yelling Indians, Indians. Security guards didn’t think it was funny.

Delta Dispatch had better radios so not as much standing around phone boxes but you could tell when the money jobs were being handed out cause a rider would be told to call in.  After a couple of months I was one of them cause I was a regular long hour suck up the crap jobs brown noser. I discovered Helly Hansen yachting gear which was 100% waterproof on the outside. This rubberized pull over top was like wearing a tropical rain forest next to your skin BUT it kept out the wet and the wind.

Pulled up next to a grey Ford XR3i turning off Picadilly.The attractive young blonde woman driving saw me leching at her and put her finger to her mouth in a Ssssh manner. Realized it was the young Diana. Nodded my head and looked away. A couple of weeks later the engagement was announced. After that I started carrying a cheap camera with me and earned extra money as a snapper. Took photos of all the “faces” I saw on the streets. Police action etc. The Daily Mail and Express bought my photos. I didn’t ask for a credit – plonker - but the money was welcome. I would dash into the paper and drop off the roll of film and let them decide if they wanted it. Started to carry a pager so they could text me yes / no and the money. If they didn’t want it I’d pick up the negatives and drop them at another paper. Could have made more money but enjoyed riding my bike – masochist. Part of it was just for the adrenaline zipping across London when the dispatcher thought I was in place A and I was in place B and having to get to place C for the next pick up.

Carried a check for 300 million pounds from Esso (now Exxon) to the taxman.
Carried original blueprints for oil refineries. 6 foot tube - that was fun bungee strapped across my back.

Watching a messenger get wrapped around the rear axle of a 18 wheeler who got pissed off at him. Didn’t die – lost both legs. Driver jailed for 20 years cause of my testimony. Yeah I embellished the truth a little to make sure the jury got pissed at him.

Had a good young friend Guy get killed by another wanker. Elton John wrote a song for him.

Riding down Hanger Lane on a CB200 splitting lanes between a van and flat bed 18 wheeler. Van moves over and I end up with my right handlebar and mirror under the flat bed with about to squash me snuggling dead wheels in front and behind me. That taught me a lesson.

Smelling burnt wiring on my bike, panicking and then remembering I was going past the coffee factory near Hanger Lane. Did this so many times I felt a right taco.

Racing Keith on his GS1000 from a red light on the Edgeware Rd at 3 in the morning. I’m on a CX; he leaves me standing. A dark blue Triumph 2.5 PI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_2500) whips by with police alarm clanging. Down the road Keith is stopped with police car. I mosey on by looking the other way and circle back to find both him and car gone. Get back to Clapham to find Keith already at the apartment 3 of us shared. It was a Special Branch car and they wanted to make sure he hadn’t stolen the bike. The only rider I know who got pulled doing 120 in a 30 and rode away scot-free.

Going to work early so I could go around and around Marble Arch hanging off a GPZ550 scraping the pegs.

Being seduced by Middle Eastern brown eyes behind a yashmak in a Roller when the oil money came to town in a BIG way.

Getting knocked off by a Nigerian Embassy car – they paid me off cause I had a small hole in my skin on my knee.

Racing down Park Lane with other messengers. Absolutely nuts.

Never got busted by the police – how this happened still amazes me.

Averaged about 200 miles a day every day for 5 years. Thatsa lotta kerb side oil changes, chain lubes and chain adjustments. Bikes were on the whole pretty reliable although the sub frame on the GPZ550 did break. Didn’t notice for a couple of days until I noticed how low the bike was sitting. Stripped it down, got it welded, reassembled and ran it into the ground.

Spraying the inside of your face shield with anti fog every night knowing it would last about 30 minutes in the next days rain.

Drinking too many pints in various pubs after work and then zooming home and up early to do it all over again.

Knowing where every pothole and manhole cover was in central London.

Knowing when the Changing of the Guard took place so as to keep away from the tourist hordes. http://www.changing-the-guard.com/

Putting pennies on top of the front fork springs on a CX500 (English pennies were bloody big) to help stiffen the front up.

Seeing the Queen Mother cruise down Bond St. in her Roller whilst shoe shop salespeople brought boxes of shoes for her to look over. The bodyguards popping in and out of her limo like ferrets in a rabbit warren.

Having a bank account in Mayfair – hey it was convenient – and getting a kick out of depositing my pay check every week noticing the other clients looking a bit miffed that a messenger was rubbing shoulders with them.

Using a Yamaha 90cc step through moped whilst the CX was off the road waiting for parts. Popping little wheelies on the Yamaha at Oxford Circus. The dispatchers took pity on me and kept me in town or they gave me a series of pickups and drops spanning the whole of central London.

Riding through Spitalfields Meat Market and getting cursed at by the butchers and their boys as I weaved past blood stained white coats carrying slabs of near quivering meat.

Getting annoyed with myself when I had to use an A-Z Streetfinder to look an address up.

Getting really annoyed at wannabe Black Cab drivers wobbling around the streets on their mopeds learning “The Knowledge”. The plonkers would simply stop in the middle of the road looking for street addresses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_the_United_Kingdom

Some messenger friends left Delta to start their own company. Holborn Globetrotters (amazing the names you can think of after a spliff or two). The company is still going strong 25 years later http://www.londononline.co.uk/profiles/78073/ although Ken left to live the hippy, organic life in Wales or SW England somewhere. As far as I know Keith (he of the Special Branch stop mentioned earlier) is still running the company.

Located a few blocks east of the British Museum this more central location was great for jobs so I bailed from Delta and worked for them. No radios which was a bummer, but no weekly fees which was good. By now all the receptionists in London knew messengers wanted to use a phone so no radio wasn’t too much of a pain for the riders. It did mean the little Hitlers aka dispatchers really had to ramp up their game to make sure all jobs were picked up quickly. A BIG plus was that a higher percentage of the jobs were cash – luverly jubbly – shaking out yer pockets at the end of the day and adding to the jar on the chest of drawers. Very fiscally responsible and all declared to Her Majesty’s Customs and Excise Ha ha.

What a bunch or rascals and vagabonds we were. A very tightly knit group who really looked after each other. Bikes were fixed, lent, stolen from each other, sold, resold so that everyone could keep ripping up the streets of London. snuggle Baker Street and Gerry Rafferty – nothing to do with the thread just hated that song. Baker Street was a real pain to use.

The police used BMW’s and they could really cut through traffic. Seemed to be used for escorting The Royal Family and visiting heads of state. The lead rider would have a whistle to get road users attention and if you heard the whistle you’d better move cause they would steam roller you out of the way. One day one of the local street characters, a little old guy nicknamed Titch, was doing his usual traffic-directing act from a traffic island in the middle of  Clerkenwell Rd when a bike cop pulled up next to him. This cop was a large beefy, red faced, red haired S.O.B who I’d seen around town quite a bit looking officious. Well he pulls up next to Twitch and his best cop voice ask “What the hell are you doing” because of course only cops can direct traffic. Titch in his best Titch voice calmly replied, “Why don’t you snuggle off” and gave him the English bird. Well the cop went bright red as all the onlookers laughed. Sensibly he decided to go fight another battle and gathering all his dignity rode away with that straight backed posture that only Beemer riders seem to have.

Didn’t think anything of finishing work on a Friday night and riding a couple of hundred miles to visit friends outside of London. The riding became such a part of a messengers life it just seemed natural.

One day I’m in bum snuggle can’t remember where in the countryside on a roller coaster 2 lane road. It’s 4.30 in the morning and I’m heading away from London on THE cash job of the day. Summer time, not raining, and the sun is peeking. I see a single headlight in my mirror and figure it’s a guy on the way to work so I keep ripping up the road. The bike behind zips by me and the rider gives me a thumbs up. It’s a cop on a cop bike and if I’m doing 20 over he’s got to be doing 50 over. So I tuck in behind him and get escorted for about the next 25 miles. We zip by other vehicles like jet fighters.

Slowly an undeclared war developed between messengers and other road users as traffic became more congested. Leann had a swift answer to road rage. She had a 1lb lump hammer secured in a clip on her gas tank. If someone pissed her off she’d pull up next to them at a stoplight. As the light went green she’d smash their wing mirror and zoom away.

I never resorted to those tactics I’d just move the mirror so they couldn’t see out of it.

Lots of messenger companies sprang up with riders thinking they were going to get off the road and earn big money. They’d hire anyone on 2 wheels and most couldn’t ride a bike let alone cope with the demands of city traffic. I soon got to recognize the sound of a bike wrecking. There’s something unmistakable about metal and plastic hitting blacktop. I’d say that 95% of the time it was rider error. They’d see a gap and try to squeeze through or they’d hit blind pedestrians. Too much pressure from the dispatchers and not enough common sense.

Note my riding had got more sensible or I’d just got much better. I swear there were days when I could feel the vehicles around me and see pathways through the traffic before the gaps opened. It was a very meditative state of mind. Hard to explain without sounding like a complete nut job. I don’t remember being on the brakes , on the gas, on the brakes, on the gas. Speed wasn’t always your best friend it was being able to read the traffic flow and use the road accordingly. BUT you know there were days when I’d be completely hugged without a drop of adrenaline left in me and those days were good. It just felt much safer to be weaving through the traffic rather than being stuck in a hole with no way out.

Most of the time as a messenger was pretty boring but looking back it was some of the best working years of my life to date.

The people I rode with were in the main outstanding riders, not at the same level as track riders but as street riders. A completely different breed.

I worked from 1983 to 1988 and quit at the age of 35 when I had to be dragged off a Black Cab driver in the Wandsworth one-way system. The bastard had tried to push me into the fence at the edge of the sidewalk and I snapped. Too many close calls with people trying to kill me. Yep I honestly believe most of the Black Cab drivers would try to clip you cause we had taken a lot of work from them. So I got a real job and moved to the countryside. Gave the bike I’d been using, a CB200, to a friend who wanted a small bike to restore.

Didn’t ride again until 2002 when I bought a Valkyrie. Sold that and got a ST1300 in 2006. Another Valkyrie in 2016 Have ridden over 250,000 miles in the past 18 years.

Hell of a story Britman! Thanks for that, I like high spirited people who split from the mundane and go their own way.

 In the 80's I was living on Ca Central Coast mostly in a little town called Pismo Beach. It was absolutely the craziest and best time of my life, damn I want to go back to being 20 something again.
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