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« on: December 10, 2020, 04:46:00 AM »


Spacex did a mostly successful test flight of its new giant
rocket, it didn't slow down quite enough when it was landing though  Shocked ..

I'm sure it's not as big as a Saturn V, but imagine being able to
land one of those!

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2020, 05:44:27 AM »

Truly amazing stuff.... Once again Elon Musk is very much my hero (And now a Texan too!)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6487

Skip to here if ya' just wanna see the Big Bada Boom (Which was still successful since this flight was to gather data, and in many ways they gather more data from a boom than from a landing.)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6892


Edit to add - And this thing was BIG! AND this is just the 2nd stage of the full Starship launch system... Approximate size comparison of the SN8 prototype vehicle that flew yesterday:

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2020, 06:01:41 AM »

Truly amazing stuff.... Once again Elon Musk is very much my hero (And now a Texan too!)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6487

Skip to here if ya' just wanna see the Big Bada Boom (Which was still successful since this flight was to gather data, and in many ways they gather more data from a boom than from a landing.)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6892


Edit to add - And this thing was BIG! AND this is just the 2nd stage of the full Starship launch system... Approximate size comparison of the SN8 prototype vehicle that flew yesterday:



I saw some video and was in awe how they got that booster to descend on its side for quite a long way and make stability adjustments as well.

In your photo, is that a 1-1 size comparison? If so you’re right the whole of the new ship will be huge. Is there a rendition of the proposed ship anywhere?
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2020, 06:11:49 AM »

In your photo, is that a 1-1 size comparison? If so you’re right the whole of the new ship will be huge. Is there a rendition of the proposed ship anywhere?

Yup, it's HUGE! The SN8 prototype that flew yesterday was 70 meters (230 feet) tall. To have something as tall as a 21 story building flying around, flipping on its' belly, back upright, etc is truly amazing...

The total Starship system (Original SpaceX development name was "BFR" for, I'm sure, Big Fine Rocket) will be 122 meters tall (400 feet)!



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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2020, 06:21:16 AM »

So from the 2 photos, it seems yesterday’s test was for the upper portion of the complete rocket/spacecraft.

I’ll have to find more info to see just what this thing is and where the actual crew cabin and stuff are.

Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 06:59:21 AM »

Truly amazing stuff.... Once again Elon Musk is very much my hero (And now a Texan too!)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6487

Skip to here if ya' just wanna see the Big Bada Boom (Which was still successful since this flight was to gather data, and in many ways they gather more data from a boom than from a landing.)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6892


Edit to add - And this thing was BIG! AND this is just the 2nd stage of the full Starship launch system... Approximate size comparison of the SN8 prototype vehicle that flew yesterday:


That was just amazing! While stationed at Vandenberg AFB part of my job was to supply water pressure to the launch pad for Minuteman Missile launches, I saw at least 6 while I was there.
I operated big diesel water pumps at a pump house not far from the pad, I would guess maybe 500 yds away. After starting the pumps and monitoring head pressure I was supposed to descend into a bunker for the launch.. so in my pea brain I decided to stand by the stairs at the entrance, figuring I could see an explosion and dive in there before any debris came my way.
The concussion waves from even that smaller rocket buffeted through my body so strongly I was just awestruck. On a clear night I could watch as each stage happened all the way into space.
I count myself lucky to experience that, as few people actually get to do it. My only regret is I never got up close to a Titan launch.

Musk is a genius
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2020, 07:21:50 AM »

That looked expensive.  Better that it happened on an unmanned test flight. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2020, 08:37:27 AM »

It appeared to me the roll back to vertical and subsequent retro firing on descent was too late. It simply didn't have enough time to slow down, will be interesting to see what the post-flight analysis provides. I hope they make it available. Amazing engineering indeed.  cooldude
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2021, 10:09:19 AM »

SN10 is probably gonna launch in the next 20-60 minutes for their 3rd attempt at sticking a landing with this giant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR1wv0iUKSU

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2021, 10:47:25 AM »

The guy has an interesting hat  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2021, 10:58:00 AM »

The guy has an interesting hat  Grin

hehehe, yeah he seems to be a bit of a character...

Another feed here with a little more serious talkers, and seem to have a little more background info (Seems there's some ground issues they're fighting with, delaying the launch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOQkk3ojNfM
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2021, 11:06:04 AM »

That one I found on my Roku box on the search. 

And yes the other guy said it was something to do with a water system but I did not listen that close. 

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2021, 11:34:06 AM »

T-17 minutes (maybe)
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2021, 12:30:33 PM »

Truly amazing stuff.... Once again Elon Musk is very much my hero (And now a Texan too!)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6487

Skip to here if ya' just wanna see the Big Bada Boom (Which was still successful since this flight was to gather data, and in many ways they gather more data from a boom than from a landing.)

https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6892


Edit to add - And this thing was BIG! AND this is just the 2nd stage of the full Starship launch system... Approximate size comparison of the SN8 prototype vehicle that flew yesterday:


That was just amazing! While stationed at Vandenberg AFB part of my job was to supply water pressure to the launch pad for Minuteman Missile launches, I saw at least 6 while I was there.
I operated big diesel water pumps at a pump house not far from the pad, I would guess maybe 500 yds away. After starting the pumps and monitoring head pressure I was supposed to descend into a bunker for the launch.. so in my pea brain I decided to stand by the stairs at the entrance, figuring I could see an explosion and dive in there before any debris came my way.
The concussion waves from even that smaller rocket buffeted through my body so strongly I was just awestruck. On a clear night I could watch as each stage happened all the way into space.
I count myself lucky to experience that, as few people actually get to do it. My only regret is I never got up close to a Titan launch.

Musk is a genius

I'd say Musk's genius is in getting all the resources together to do it in the first place - he hires the real genius's who know rockets and how to make them fly.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2021, 01:29:42 PM »

Well now the is only an hour left, if things go well.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2021, 02:06:48 PM »

he hires the real genius's who know rockets and how to make them fly.

Love this clapback he did a few years back...

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2021, 03:03:44 PM »

10 Mintues
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2021, 03:23:11 PM »

It's leaning... and on fire.... BUT THEY LANDED IT!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


Edit - Well, it landed for a while before it went

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2021, 03:24:57 PM »

Yes.  Very impressive device. 

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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2021, 04:34:53 PM »

It's leaning... and on fire.... BUT THEY LANDED IT!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


Edit - Well, it landed for a while before it went



Way cool...(and one of my fav flicks!)
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2021, 06:06:04 PM »


I'd say Musk's genius is in getting all the resources together to do it in the first place - he hires the real genius's who know rockets and how to make them fly.

I agree!!

The key to success is surrounding yourself with the talent and brains to make it happen.   Elon Musk is excellent at doing this.   

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2021, 06:20:29 PM »

Glad  to see he's moving it along......

by the time he blows up another dozen he'll have it down pat.....

Kidding- this is a great thing..... we went to the moon 50 years ago ( new satellite images proved it ) we should be living there by now....

Git er Dun Mr Musk.....

Only problem if he perfect the electric car then gas will go up...LOL

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2021, 05:51:46 AM »


I'd say Musk's genius is in getting all the resources together to do it in the first place - he hires the real genius's who know rockets and how to make them fly.

I agree!!

The key to success is surrounding yourself with the talent and brains to make it happen.   Elon Musk is excellent at doing this.   

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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2021, 08:08:54 AM »

Normal launch. Safe landing.  Then sometime after landing, burnt off unused fuel in an expeditious manner.
They'll figure it out.  I read Robert Goddard's book (his wife published his shop notes after he died).  It was much the same - try something, then figure out why it blew up, fix that, then try it again until it doesn't blow up anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2021, 09:29:06 AM »

...burnt off unused fuel in an expeditious manner.

LOL! I like that statement as much as the RUD phrase Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2021, 10:40:51 AM »

My personal clown burning twitter moment... Compliments of Mr. Musk!
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2021, 03:01:33 PM »

Looks like SN15 should, hopefully, be going any minute now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPNvB5ComFw

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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2021, 03:15:09 PM »

Thanks.  We got the Everyday Astronaut on. 
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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2021, 03:40:33 PM »

Landing was "NOMINAL".   cooldude
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« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2021, 03:41:22 PM »

Landing was "NOMINAL".   cooldude

And although it was touchy for a bit there with that methane fire, LOOKS *Knock on wood* like it's down and safe!

*CELEBRATORY NERD SCREAMS IN PROGRESS*
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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2021, 04:05:07 PM »

WooHoooo! A hell of a thing to watch!
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2021, 04:33:29 PM »


I missed it live, but I just watched it take off and land.

-Mike "and it was only on fire a little bit after it landed  cooldude "
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