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Author Topic: 11/13/69 Spiro Agnew addresses public regarding media  (Read 824 times)
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« on: December 20, 2020, 04:31:55 AM »

There’s a rhetorical question people ask in times when things are questionable which is “when did things get so nuts” or something very similar but along those lines and sometimes I will answer and sometimes I don’t but my answer rarely changes from 11/22/63 or the day they shot Kennedy. That day the country and world witnessed a coup de ta...prove me wrong.

In this video Agnew addressed how the media at the time (TV media) was spinning a speech President Nixon had given. Regardless of you opinion of Nixon, the topic I’m centering on is the media, not any wrongdoing by President Nixon, which is a completely different situation.


This is 11 minutes, listen at your convenience

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQpQyJQm2Mk

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 11:15:10 AM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

post something to prove your accusations and your belief.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2020, 01:34:26 PM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2020, 02:10:13 PM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 06:36:57 PM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.

Even though you didn’t actually listen to the speech, you can say there are no similarities between what I described as content/topic of speech and today’s media? 

So even if Agnew was correct in his then opinion of how the media had shifted and could potentially change the way the media presented “news” in the future, even though your opinion of him is that he was corrupt, his opinion doesn’t matter even though it seems he was correct.  Ok,I think I get it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 07:10:41 PM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.

Even though you didn’t actually listen to the speech, you can say there are no similarities between what I described as content/topic of speech and today’s media? 

So even if Agnew was correct in his then opinion of how the media had shifted and could potentially change the way the media presented “news” in the future, even though your opinion of him is that he was corrupt, his opinion doesn’t matter even though it seems he was correct.  Ok,I think I get it.
He was corrupt. It's not my opinion. If you wish to follow what he said about the media is up to you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/vice-president-agnews-misdeeds-and-the-challenges-of-holding-him-accountable/2020/12/17/0402018e-29bd-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 03:57:48 AM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.

Even though you didn’t actually listen to the speech, you can say there are no similarities between what I described as content/topic of speech and today’s media? 

So even if Agnew was correct in his then opinion of how the media had shifted and could potentially change the way the media presented “news” in the future, even though your opinion of him is that he was corrupt, his opinion doesn’t matter even though it seems he was correct.  Ok,I think I get it.
He was corrupt. It's not my opinion. If you wish to follow what he said about the media is up to you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/vice-president-agnews-misdeeds-and-the-challenges-of-holding-him-accountable/2020/12/17/0402018e-29bd-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html


That was a nice piece to promote the book. Funny how when there’s opposing opinions those promoting the book throw shade at another book claiming conspiracies.

I still don’t see how this has anything to do with Agnew calling out the tv media in ‘69 and how its has apparently morphed into what we have today. If you want facts you have to buy the book?
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 04:41:27 AM »

If you cannot see the corruption in Biden and vote for him how are you going to see the corruption anywhere else. That alone would stop my response to anyone who replies.

The changing of the USA started a long time before this speech or the Kennedy assassination.  I believe Kennedy was killed because he wanted to put us on the silver standard. The EO he put into effect was canceled on the flight over by Johnson to assume the position of president.

The real problems began when the Federal Reserve came into power. But it was even before this that things started to go south. Since the men that were called visionaries and pioneers of industry could smell blood in water in regards to the US economy.

Its all there if you do the research, It's sad today to see the idea that was the USA so corrupted it would take a major overhaul of the entire system. It is all for personal wealth, gain and power really that the USA was pulled down.

I agree with your premise but you need to go deeper. It almost makes you sick to understand the real motives and corruption that is behind some of the things in the US. But its still the best of we have for people to live in.

This is a little out of date but most is still good information. It has been along time coming but they do control the narrative in the news media and in fact most all media, including the big name social media sites.



Since I am a Christian I wanted to find out how the Separation of Church and state came into being. That alone is enough to get you started into the question of the deeper intentions and purposes that men have for the USA.

Hugo Lafayette Black (February 27, 1886 – September 25, 1971) was an American lawyer, politician, and jurist who served as a U.S. Senator from 1927 to 1937 and as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States from 1937 to 1971. A member of the Democratic Party and a devoted New Dealer, Black endorsed Franklin D. Roosevelt in both the 1932 and 1936 presidential elections. Having gained a reputation in the Senate as a reformer, Black was nominated to the Supreme Court by President Roosevelt and confirmed by the Senate by a vote of 63 to 16 (six Democratic Senators and 10 Republican Senators voted against him). He was the first of nine Roosevelt nominees to the Court, and he outlasted all except for William O. Douglas.

He was a Klu Klux clan member and instituted the phrase a high and impenetrable wall in separation of church and state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Black

Talk about changing the Supreme court with certain picks and thought it was new huh? Do you see the date, 1927 to 1937.

Do you realize that there mostly were no taxes in the USA

For example, when the federal income tax was implemented to help finance World War I in 1913, the marginal tax rate was 1% on income of $0 to $20,000, 2% on income of $20,000 to $50,000, 3% on income of $50,000 to $75,000, 4% on income of $75,000 to $100,000, 5% on income of $100,000 to $250,000, 6% on income of $250,000 to $500,000, and 7% on income of $500,000 and up

Sorry I could go on and on but its very interesting and essentially this starting tax rate was so high that it did not effect most in the USA.

Remember the phrase order out of chaos, that is going to play a major role in the days coming up.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2020, 05:21:07 AM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.
so, it follows you discounted everything the Clintons had to say and you won’t  be listening to anything Biden has to say either. And then there’s Obama, the corrupt community organizer who bought his way into a statehouse seat before buying his way intocongress.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2020, 06:53:05 AM »

If you like videos better then this will explain the media

https://youtu.be/f0AJ9AjvMYY
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2020, 09:15:24 AM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

Whether he was or wasn’t corrupt isn’t the issue. It’s the topic of the speech he was addressing. The  Edina of the time had already begun to inject on a personal level instead of a objective level.

Much of the news we get today, tv, radio, print is all has a personal interpretation instead of honest and objective investigative research and publishing of just the facts so the people can decide form themselves instead of personal commentary
The problem for me is this. Once you prove your corruptness, little what you say about right and wrong has any value.
so, it follows you discounted everything the Clintons had to say and you won’t  be listening to anything Biden has to say either. And then there’s Obama, the corrupt community organizer who bought his way into a statehouse seat before buying his way intocongress.

obama wasn't know as bathhouse barry for nothing.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2020, 09:41:26 AM »

I’m afraid I didn’t watch. Agnew was as corrupt as they come. I believe he even took payoffs right in the Whitehouse. His opinion carries little weight with me.

As corrupt as they come ?

You been watching the news lately ?

Just checking

Dan
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2020, 11:57:31 AM »


As corrupt as they come ?

You been watching the news lately ?

Just checking

Dan

Don't worry, karma is headed his way on 1/20/21. SDNY will be keeping him busy.
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