Looks like we may be buying a new stove tomorrow ...

[scooperhsd]

Mom's 20 years old Maytag electric glasstop has been having some issues, and I've been planning to install a gas one to replace it for the last 8 months, so we're ready. Taking the Mrs. to go look tomorrow morning (she has vacation time to burn off for tomorrow and Tuesday).

[cookiedough]

did not know they made electric glasstop stoves 20 years ago.  I thought smooth glasstops were fairly new in the past say 15 years or so?  I still have our old 1993 appliances all new then and all whirlpool still kicking, although I think the washer/dryer and fridge will come first to buy new again before the stove.  I prefer old school electric coils on our stove so far only have replaced once the electric coil inside and the black porcelain round drip covers around the coils in 28 years of use. 

I hope you find a stove that will last another 20+ years heard most appliances now lucky to get 15 years use out of, especially heard washer/dryers are not lasting very long anymore.

[Dave Ritsema]

did not know they made electric glasstop stoves 20 years ago.  I thought smooth glasstops were fairly new in the past say 15 years or so?  I still have our old 1993 appliances all new then and all whirlpool still kicking, although I think the washer/dryer and fridge will come first to buy new again before the stove.  I prefer old school electric coils on our stove so far only have replaced once the electric coil inside and the black porcelain round drip covers around the coils in 28 years of use. 

I hope you find a stove that will last another 20+ years heard most appliances now lucky to get 15 years use out of, especially heard washer/dryers are not lasting very long anymore.

A friend of mine owns an appliance store and he said most new washers and dryers are ten years at best. He suggested Speed Queen and that is what we went with. He says they are built like tanks and should provide 20 plus years of service.

[scooperhsd]

I'm looking at a gas Whirlpool range, 5 burners (one oval for griddle) using a convection oven and in-oven broiler. Wife really misses gas cooktop we had in NC, so, I've had a gas range gas feed and a grounded 120V outlet put in behind the current range (grounded outlets are scarce in this house built in the early 1950's). At Lowes.

The glass cooktop is working ok for now, but the top oven's door locks have failed (and this also prevents using the oven, so it's mostly serving as a drawer right now). The big issue with the the Maytag is parts availability - there basically isn't any.

[hubcapsc]

The big issue with the the Maytag is parts availability - there basically isn't any.

The oven on our 20yo GE quit working last year. We have a coil (we like it) "slide-in" -
built-in to the countertop with the controls at the front. Anywho... I looked up the code
that came out when the oven quit doing right and the fix was to get a new panel
of buttons and knobs. Well - that part was unavailable, so I gave up and started looking
for a replacement. They mostly don't make good coil stoves anymore and slide-in ones
are particularly rare. Carolyn found some place that rebuilt our old panel of buttons
and knobs, and we're still using our old GE...

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

I never go out looking at appliances.  

I sit in front of my computer and read for hours (trying to avoid obvious rah-rah BS articles) trying to find the best one for my purpose.

If you have a regular repairman, some of those guys have direct experience on what holds up and what gets fixed every 6 months. (he told me to hold on to my old washer and dryer for as long as I could, until my washer became FUBAR)

When I find what I want, then I go on line and look for the best price.

Then I call the store to make sure they actually have it.

Then I go and get it.

Most of the sales folks at the big box (best price) stores are not a real fountain of knowledge on the merits of brands and makes and styles.  We have some nice white ones.  

Whirlpool owns Maytag (since last year).

I just got a new whirlpool washer.  There are far too many choices and settings on the controls (compared to all my other washers) (which are sure to stop working in no time).  I'm not sure I trust an automated water level (how does it know?).  It asks if you want one or two rinses, and I have no idea how many rinses the old ones used to give.  And the drain hose is only half the diameter of all my old washers.  And I was amused that a hook comes out and prevents you from opening the door when it runs, presumably to save me from losing my arm on spin cycle.  Though I never lost an arm before on my old ones.  

[scooperhsd]

Yeah , I've heard that on washers/dryers as well - keep what you have as long as you can. Although it seems about 20 years is as long as you can expect out of any of them (depending on the kind of use they get). And yes - some dummy somewhere probably got serioiusly injured and sued someone for selling a dangerous appliance.

[h13man]

Our Whirlpool Cabrio Series washer lasted 8 yrs. before replacement.  Tried to fix it but the part was over $300.) Went back to MayTag.

[f6john]

Just when I have a brand new gas range for sale too! Long story but in my kitchen remodel debacle I have wound up with two gas ranges. And, it seems the secondary market for even a new appliance is not great. I’ve had this one for sale for about 6 weeks with very little interest.

This is the one I have installed in my kitchen and I have an identical one in the basement that has never been hooked up.

[hubcapsc]

kitchen remodel debacle

Your kitchen looks nice, I guess the debacle is behind you?

-Mike

[0leman]

Two years ago we were in the market for a gas stove to replace the electric one that came with house when be bought.  DW really likes cooking with gas.  So when we gas line put in (home did not have gas previously)  we went stove shopping.   found an appliance store over the hill from us that had a good sales persons that describe good/bad on all the cook stoves, she did this knowing we would not be buying the stove there.   Anyway went with a Frigidaire  stove.   A five burner type.     DW likes it.  Though the center burner doesn't get used as much as she thought it would .   

[scooperhsd]

This is what we have coming - Wednesday "sometime".  -- 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-5-Burners-5-cu-ft-Self-cleaning-Convection-Freestanding-Gas-Range-Fingerprint-Resistant-Stainless-Steel-Common-30-in-Actual-29-875-in/1000318957

[Moonshot_1]

This is what we have coming - Wednesday "sometime".  -- 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-5-Burners-5-cu-ft-Self-cleaning-Convection-Freestanding-Gas-Range-Fingerprint-Resistant-Stainless-Steel-Common-30-in-Actual-29-875-in/1000318957

You will love it. We got the same one last year. The 15k btu burners rock. I do a fair amount of wok cooking and the 15k btu burners make it easy and fast.

Easy to clean and use.

Only disadvantage I've come across is when frying a fatty food like hamburger and you want to drain off the fat. With our other range the grates were raised so you could tip the pan off to the edge of the grate and the fat would pool to the lower part of the pan.

This range as a continuous grate so you can't do that. However, you can use a large spoon under the side of the pan to tilt it the skim the fat off so it is an easy work around for that.

Wife loves it too.

Good choice!

[scooperhsd]

This is what we have coming - Wednesday "sometime".  -- 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-5-Burners-5-cu-ft-Self-cleaning-Convection-Freestanding-Gas-Range-Fingerprint-Resistant-Stainless-Steel-Common-30-in-Actual-29-875-in/1000318957

You will love it. We got the same one last year. The 15k btu burners rock. I do a fair amount of wok cooking and the 15k btu burners make it easy and fast.

Easy to clean and use.

Only disadvantage I've come across is when frying a fatty food like hamburger and you want to drain off the fat. With our other range the grates were raised so you could tip the pan off to the edge of the grate and the fat would pool to the lower part of the pan.

This range as a continuous grate so you can't do that. However, you can use a large spoon under the side of the pan to tilt it the skim the fat off so it is an easy work around for that.

Wife loves it too.

Good choice!

How about the oven (baking / broiling) ?

I like the fact that the top burners are usable in case of power outage.

[Moonshot_1]

Like the oven. Maybe a little slow to pre-heat but it is a cavernous oven, at least compared to our other one. Don't use the broiler much but was pleased with the results when I have.

My wife does the baking and she really likes the oven.

Have seen no major or minor down sides to the unit. In fact, when I saw you initial post I was going to recommend you look at this very one.

Then you got it.

[Jess from VA]

This is what we have coming - Wednesday "sometime".  --  

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-5-Burners-5-cu-ft-Self-cleaning-Convection-Freestanding-Gas-Range-Fingerprint-Resistant-Stainless-Steel-Common-30-in-Actual-29-875-in/1000318957

Not knocking your choice.

But I find this intriguing (from the add)..... Fingerprint-Resistant Stainless Steel

This is why I hate all kitchen stainless.  I'm not a big clean freak, but it looks like a platoon of snot blowing kids eating gummy bears were playing in my kitchen, every day.  

[scooperhsd]

I've been looking at this one for at least the last 6 months . Right combination of price and features (ok, the wife would have liked a number pad to enter clock / temp data, and so would I). A 2nd smaller oven that works would have been nice too. But these add costs. If I had a bunch more money - we would have possibly gone for a dual fuel one - electric oven(s), gas cooktop. But they are generally at least $1000 more. And since we are replacing an electric range - we already had electric power. We weren't too happy with Mom's electric even before the problems arose. As the Mrs. put it - "we've been coming to an understanding".

[John Schmidt]

Just when I have a brand new gas range for sale too! Long story but in my kitchen remodel debacle I have wound up with two gas ranges. And, it seems the secondary market for even a new appliance is not great. I’ve had this one for sale for about 6 weeks with very little interest.

This is the one I have installed in my kitchen and I have an identical one in the basement that has never been hooked up.

What is that small unit to the left of the stove? A microwave?

[f6john]

kitchen remodel debacle

Your kitchen looks nice, I guess the debacle is behind you?

-Mike

Not exactly, I’m still waiting on an extension for my range hood. Ordered my appliances in Black Slate in July 2020. Thought my hood would work with 9’ ceilings which GE claims is ok but I disagreed. Ordered the extension in October and the order has been bumped twice now, they say January 19th. I’m happy with the way the kitchen looks but can’t finish my backsplash or install my hood until everything is here.




I can’t finish my crown molding or my light rails for the cabinets until the backsplash is done since the trim dies into the tile is some areas.


And John to answer your question, yes that is our microwave. Maybe not the most convenient placement for some people but my wife puts counter space at the top of her must haves. She didn’t want an over the range model due to the gas stove and she didn’t like the other wall options either.


Apologies for the thread hijack too.

[f6john]

Didn’t want to start another thread so I’ll continue to hijack this one. I went to Lowe’s to check on my range hood special order, it’s been bumped to February 8th.

I hope you have better luck with your range!

[Moonshot_1]

Didn’t want to start another thread so I’ll continue to hijack this one. I went to Lowe’s to check on my range hood special order, it’s been bumped to February 8th.

I hope you have better luck with your range!

Tell them you want it shipped by the US Postal Service. Just as well go all in. LOL

[scooperhsd]

At least my range was in stock in the store. And they called me with confirmation for delivery tomorrow.

Now - they didn't give a time, but they did say they would call when they were on their way to my house.

[f6john]

At least my range was in stock in the store. And they called me with confirmation for delivery tomorrow.

Now - they didn't give a time, but they did say they would call when they were on their way to my house.

Good deal, but sounds familiar. I had the same deal, will call 30 mlnutes before arrival. I even got e-mails telling me your 4th in line, 3rd in line....your next, but I went to bed at 11:00pm and no delivery. Doesn’t sound like you purchased from Home Depot so you are probably safe.

My problems started because we needed everything for the kitchen and we wanted everything in black slate finish which nobody had in stock anywhere we looked.

[Jess from VA]

Anymore, the big box stores only schedule the day of delivery.  That morning the delivery independent contractor driver picks up his daily list of deliveries, maps them out in best sequence, and starts calling people ahead of deliveries.  Usually you get a morning or afternoon.  The store is not really in the loop, unless you have some complaint.  

You can ask your big box sales person for the delivery outfit's number, but they don't give it out unless you ask.

My recent washer delivery/pickup and full install and test was the best delivery I've ever had.  Pure professional, clean, and two big dudes who put them on a strap and lugged them around like they were 40lbs of nothing.  

I apologized for the half flight of stairs, and they said they did tall condos with no elevators all the time.

I unhooked my old one and drug it out and cleaned before they came.  I found several things that had gone missing over the years, and years of crud.  And cleaned up the plumbing hookups. They were pleased it was a clean work site with no waiting around.

I always tip when things go well.  And I got the usual followup email to critique my delivery and I gave them a rave review because the company uses it for raises, promotions and bonuses. 

[scooperhsd]

My only real complaint is that Lowes said they do NOT hookup the gas to the range - I suppose it is a liability thing. That's ok - I have enough tools to finish up the job once they get the old one out and the new one into the kitchen.

[Jess from VA]

My only real complaint is that Lowes said they do NOT hookup the gas to the range - I suppose it is a liability thing. That's ok - I have enough tools to finish up the job once they get the old one out and the new one into the kitchen.

You bet it's a liability thing.  And trouble with the State too for unlicensed work.  

That is a certified gas fitter job (often associated with licensed plumbers - in 44 states).  Appliance delivery outfits will not pay for one on their trucks, and licensed fitters/plumbers don't want jobs doing heavy deliveries all day (for that pay).  In my experience, plumbers make more than a lot of lawyers.

If your install was to blow your house up (and there's no reason it should) and your homeowner's ins co discovered you did the install, they could decide to deny your claim if they could link the accident to your work.   I'm just sayin'.

Insurance co policies are drafted by their lawyers, for their benefit, whenever possible.

[scooperhsd]

The "No-Gas" install seems... a little much. So do they also not do the electrical work (as in connect power cord for 240V applicances / plug into outlet) for an electric range / appliance ?

[Moonshot_1]

My only real complaint is that Lowes said they do NOT hookup the gas to the range - I suppose it is a liability thing. That's ok - I have enough tools to finish up the job once they get the old one out and the new one into the kitchen.

We got ours through a "local" appliance store. Pretty reputable outfit. They delivered, took old one and hooked up the gas to the new one and tested the unit before they left.

Think we paid about $100 more than what we would have paid at a "box" store but we got the full install and if anything goes wrong with it, at least in the short term, we can call them to fix it.

Was a lot less hassle. We're 60 miles from a Lowes or Lowes type store. 20 miles from the guys we got it from.

[Jess from VA]

The "No-Gas" install seems... a little much. So do they also not do the electrical work (as in connect power cord for 240V applicances / plug into outlet) for an electric range / appliance ?

If the (220) fixture(s) is wired up solid, I believe anyone is allowed to plug them in.

[scooperhsd]

ALL RIGHT !!! - It is in , and working !!

[scooperhsd]

ANYBODY who can follow installation manual instructions can connect up a gas range - I'm not so sure I'd want to convert from natural gas to Propane by doing it myself, but basic installation of a gas range isn't that hard. I DID have a plumber run the gas outlet to the kitchen (I know my limitations). But running the electric is a piece of cake for me (house wiring 120/240V and low voltage only - I don't work on commercial 3 phase).