This is Antifa in disguise ?

[Psychotic Bovine]

I fully support and defend all conservatives (not antifa, et al) who went to the Capitol to protest widespread election fraud, and the real possibility that the national election was actually flipped by concerted multistate fraudulent efforts.  We know there was fraud, just not how much.  No sufficient investigation has or will be conducted, so we will remain forever unconvinced the election was not stolen.  Everyone wants proof of the fraud, and I agree.  All those who believe there was no fraud should prove to us there wasn't.  It goes both ways here.  

I fully support all those who went inside the capital too, as long as they did no more damage or vandalism than was necessary to get inside (and hurt no one); essentially a trespass.  I do not normally ever support any unlawful activity, but I will support it in protecting our fundamental freedoms and liberties and that includes full and fair elections.  This country was founded on unlawful behavior (shooting redcoats, among other things).  

Our ruling political class is now on notice that we expect and demand them to ensure and protect all our liberties and freedoms, and completely fair elections going forward.  If they don't, we can do it again for them.... harder.

This time it was as polite as it could be under the circumstances.  

We lost one patriot, and they lost one policeman (though he walked back to his workplace and later collapsed, and they are not disclosing anything about his cause of death at all).  

Agree 100 percent.   It makes me feel good knowing that some of our elected officials were in fear of their lives.  I hope that fear stays with them for all time.

[Oss]

Jess  both will be classed as covid related and both hospitals will get free covid money

I agree with everything but the trespass must be prosecuted.  We do things knowing we will be held responsible, as it should be.

Whether sentence should be suspended is another question, for another day.

Wonder if under antifa precedents no bail should be required?

Those who call it sedition miss the point as it is "A revolt or an incitement to revolt against established authority, usually in the form of Treason or Defamation against government" Since Sedition is the crime of revolting or inciting revolt against government and this was not an attempt to overthrow the government it is hardly accurate to call it sedition.
We have a 1st amendment and therefore, prosecutions for sedition are rare and in this case are only the showing of the hand of the true traitors of america, those hiding their attemots to overthrow the freedoms of the people

What would one call attempts to take over and burn federal buildings in Portland? And why protect those people. And why would democrats fund bail for those seditious individuals and throw stones at those caught in the crossfire at the Capitol while expressing their 1st amendment rights?

I would take Jess as a teammate in federal court any day, even if he is retired

[Jess from VA]

Your spin is thin buddy.  And old too.

And I can lay down my bar card and pick up my rifle anytime.

[carolinarider09]

Jess and OSS,

I agree with your words and conclusions.  I trust your judgement, both of you, not only because of your background but OSS was there. 

[Jess from VA]

Buddy ? I think not.

I'm crushed.  

Be my guest.

Why thank you princess.  

[f6gal]

We lost one patriot, and they lost one policeman (though he walked back to his workplace and later collapsed, and they are not disclosing anything about his cause of death at all, other than a conclusory statement that it was duty related).  

The CP officer was a Trump supporter.  His family has asked that his death not be made political.

The officer was allegedly hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.  From the scenario I've seen presented, his death is consistent with blunt force trauma that resulted in intracranial hemorrhage; it is typical for a person with a brain bleed to collapse later.   

[Jess from VA]

We lost one patriot, and they lost one policeman (though he walked back to his workplace and later collapsed, and they are not disclosing anything about his cause of death at all, other than a conclusory statement that it was duty related).  

The CP officer was a Trump supporter.  His family has asked that his death not be made political.

The officer was allegedly hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.  From the scenario I've seen presented, his death is consistent with blunt force trauma that resulted in intracranial hemorrhage; it is typical for a person with a brain bleed to collapse later.   

Well I am very sorry to hear that. 

All of us who put on a uniform may go in harms way. 

[scooperhsd]

I could even forgive the "trespassers" for torching the Congresspeoples' offices.

If Congress doesn't properly investigate this (or more properly perhaps - force the states to (via the same mechanism that they forced the 55MPH speed limit on everybody)) - the next couple elections are going to be anything but tame and peaceful - I would not be surprised to see armed "militias" at the polling places (and forcing their way into the counting areas to ensure that is done correctly/fairly).

If this had been a "riot" intending to totally take over the government - it would still be going on with a truly fearful body count.  If I knew who some of the FBI wanted people were, I probably would not bother to let anybody know where they were (inspite of large rewards).

[Rams]

I could even forgive the "trespassers" for torching the Congresspeoples' offices.

If Congress doesn't properly investigate this (or more properly perhaps - force the states to (via the same mechanism that they forced the 55MPH speed limit on everybody)) - the next couple elections are going to be anything but tame and peaceful - I would not be surprised to see armed "militias" at the polling places (and forcing their way into the counting areas to ensure that is done correctly/fairly).

If this had been a "riot" intending to totally take over the government - it would still be going on with a truly fearful body count.  If I knew who some of the FBI wanted people were, I probably would not bother to let anybody know where they were (inspite of large rewards).

Can't say what I'd do, I don't know anyone associated with breaching the capitol building to my knowledge.   (I'm sticking to that story.)  What I can say is my view of the current leadership is that there is a threat to our Constitution.   I sincerely hope the Dems drop their impeachment demands (although I doubt that will happen),   Feeding this fire will not make things better.

Rams

[Robert]

 Well Google and Apple both announced they will not allow the parlor app to be downloaded.   

The line in the sand has formally been drawn.

This is a new day, with new rules, by those who would pull out all the stops. In days past for protesters to be in Congress would have been unthinkable and would be akin to desecration. But today we see a new standard, like many may not have liked Trump but he got results by not respecting the old rules. Gone are the days for normal respect of the office.

There is much that is rotten in Washington and the building is only a building but the message that was sent was vital to let these people know that the patriots are still there and will fight.

I will find it funny one day when those that voted Biden into office will be chewed up by the democratic party because they dont care for anyone. That will be a very harsh reality check for some.

Anderson Cooper told the truth when he said some things that indicated that the general population was a bunch of low lifes. That is the way the public is looked on by many of the elites.

Big talk about sedition but no talk about treason especially during and after the Muller which hunt by any on the left

Pelosi has been one big contributor to the dirty game gene pool by using every dirty trick in the book. She and those that went along with her muddied and soiled what image Congress had left.

In fact she is still at it and some on this board are in support of her dirty tricks. So we have someone who is supposed to be distinguished and poised at the point of power and acts like gutter trash in a brawl and we are supposed to respect a building? Let those who occupy the building show the same respect for the position they hold. Be upright fair and honest and it will bring a whole new respect to the building and restore the respect of the office and the title Congressman or woman.

[98valk]

So spin your wheels meat do your remarks but they made me proud to be an American.

Any person who is proud of rioters committing sedition is essentially encouraging traitorous actions. As Willow is fond of saying, "the rules of the road prevent me from saying what I think of you"

haha it seems u learned a new word recently and u are throwing it around freely but only when it can be used against Patriots aka Trump Supporters. Funny u didn't use it ALL of last yr with all of the antifa, BLM riots,looting, murders, rapes, etc. maybe because all of those people are democrat supporters and left wing liberal/radicals. if u know your history they are doing exactly what Mao's Red Guards did. Since u are so smart who is/are today's Mao?  You would never use it against your people.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or rebellion against, established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.

Because sedition is overt, it is typically not considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history.

[98valk]

so since the democrat party agenda is against the Declaration, USC and the Bill of Rights, I put forth they are all committing sedition and including ALL of the people in America that vote for democrats are committing sedition also.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or rebellion against, established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.

Because sedition is overt, it is typically not considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history.

[Warlock]

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-no-evidence-antifa-001937267.html

Now that is funny. FBI really. I would trust Ex Lax in a weight lifting contest for a well balanced meal.
David