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carolinarider09
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« on: January 09, 2021, 07:04:52 PM »

I have not verified this from a second source but this was just posted on Parler by John Matze

Sunday (tomorrow) at midnight Amazon will be shutting off all of our servers in an attempt to completely remove free speech off the internet. There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.

We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business, however Amazon, Google and Apple purposefully did this as a coordinated effort knowing our options would be limited and knowing this would inflict the most damage right as President Trump was banned from the tech companies.


https://parler.com/profile/John/posts


So, it would appear that the big tech firms have coordinated an attack on free speech ensuring that only one voice will be heard in digital media, theirs.

If true, I'd say the time is at hand.  
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2021, 07:08:59 PM »

I have not verified this from a second source but this was just posted on Parler by John Matze

Sunday (tomorrow) at midnight Amazon will be shutting off all of our servers in an attempt to completely remove free speech off the internet. There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.

We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business, however Amazon, Google and Apple purposefully did this as a coordinated effort knowing our options would be limited and knowing this would inflict the most damage right as President Trump was banned from the tech companies.


https://parler.com/profile/John/posts


So, it would appear that the big tech firms have coordinated an attack on free speech ensuring that only one voice will be heard in digital media, theirs.

If true, I'd say the time is at hand.   
It is, the next days will be very interesting..  may God have mercy on our Great Nation
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2021, 07:48:46 PM »

I was amazed that they would do such a thing, its pretty disgusting.

Hopefully there will be new legislation that strips them of their ability to do this in the future.

But there was already talk many months ago about the president using the emergency alert to contact people. We were told that it would happen and That is why there was a test of the system.

they need to get their butts handed to them and they are the ones making classifying it as a public corp necessary.

Notice the dates

Dec 17 2019 14:24:40 (EST)
National Presidential Alert System
Why was this created and tested?
Political warfare.
Information warfare.




Feb 18 2019 15:50:20 (EST)
Chatter uptick re: how to effectively prevent cross-talk re: anti-narrative across all social media/online platforms.
Ability to prevent cross-talk narrows comms only to FAKE NEWS which provides for more control over what is released to inform the public.
A series of scenarios is currently being conducted ['game the sys'] to test response, risk, and calc results.
'Censorship' [added] layers of inserted code 'through keyword targeting' in bio, history, and comments + indiv platform mods has failed to curtail the problem.
'China-Russia-Iran' 'fake' take-down hacks of select platforms (for maintenance) is one scenario being game-played.
[Zero-Day]
Countermeasures in place.
[Example]
Think Emergency Alert System.
Think WH controlled *new* RT 'news' website
Think WH controlled *new* video stream platform
Think Here.
Should this occur, immediate steps will be taken to classify each as 'Public Utility' (essential public services) to gain appropriate gov regulation (control).
Why do we make things public?



The Great Reset

The COVID-19 pandemic has provided a unique opportunity to think about the kind of future we want. TIME partnered with the World Economic Forum to ask leading thinkers to share ideas for how to transform the way we live and work.
https://time.com/collection/great-reset/


Was this known to be happening?

Presidential Proclamation on National Preparedness Month, 2018

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-national-preparedness-month-2018/
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2021, 09:28:44 PM »

I've been following this, and it's very disturbing.... As a (small 'L') libertarian, I support any businesses right to do business with anyone or not as they see fit, but this should also apply to bakers who don't wanna bake gay wedding cakes either....

I hope companies far and wide are looking and noticing, that, if you wanna trust AWS, or Azure or any of the other cloud services with their crown jewels, if you say the wrong thing, your entire business could be shut down at a moment's notice, and make business choices appropriately.....
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2021, 08:44:02 AM »

... I support any businesses right to do business with anyone or not as they see fit, but this should also apply to bakers who don't wanna bake gay wedding cakes either....
 

I agree with you but in fairness my understanding is that they didn't out right refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple.  They simply said they could not include the slogan that went against their religious beliefs.  They did recommend other bakers who might.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 08:55:57 AM »

One more thing.  I did not think about this when I read the Parley but did a look up.

Apple can automatically, at their whim, remove apps from your apple device.  It appears you can mitigate this by doing the following.  I have not verified it will work but did take the steps. 

Steps for preventing Apple from deleting Parler from your phone:

1. Go to settings;
2. Click on “screen time”
3. Click: “Content & Privacy Restrictions”
4. Click: “iTunes and App Store Purchases”
5. Click: “Deleting Apps”
6. Click: “Don’t Allow”

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2021, 09:03:15 AM »

Belt and suspenders

My father said that and I did not understand but always made sure a plan B and beyond

This is what prepping is about    Not really me but we are always ready for a month or so.

This is why you can not trust large anything,

This has been coming, we are the frog in the water not noticing or believing the water is coming to a boil soon.

So speak to ALL of your representatives, and not just once and dont just bitch here.  Tell them why you believe free speech is the blood of freedom and to shut it off the Republic as we know it will die

If a miracle comes to pass, it will because we work towards, when called or not and not to simply pray

If the EBS is activated. be ready
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2021, 11:04:13 AM »

OSS,

Yes I understand and agree and I guess I have been harsh in my contact with my two senators from SC, but after seeing Senator Graham smiling during his "talk" on the senate floor I was ticked. 

Oh,  regarding EBS,  I know this falls into the conspiracy theory notion but I saw something somewhere today, about Apple being able to remove that notification from your phone.

When I saw that I thought to myself, WTF.  Why would I have to be concerned about that.  Never crossed my mind that it might be done to eliminate response from we the people. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2021, 07:16:00 PM »

American Thinker shuts down comments: shut down the comments or shut down the site

Many of you may not know the website but it comes up often in "The Liberty Daily" website (link below).  This shows that censorship and control of what you can say on the internet is alive and well.  What you see/read is limited and controlled.  Much more so than two weeks ago.  Just remember that.  January 1, 2021, free speech in America, at least on the web, ended.

https://www.americanthinker.com

On January 14, American Thinker founder Thomas Lifson published a blog post about shutting down the comment section. An update to the post said it was either that or shut down the website. AT appears to be very worried about the comments they are getting. The blog post didn’t explain anything. It did say people who read AT are upset about the elimination of the comments, but it didn’t dissuade them.

It’s a sorry world that they can’t even have a comment section. We don’t really have free speech in this country any longer. It’s especially unfortunate for a blog that produces thoughtful, intelligent opinion pieces worthy of discussion.


https://www.independentsentinel.com/american-thinker-shuts-down-comments-shut-down-the-comments-or-shut-down-the-site/
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2021, 01:03:28 PM »

After uproar, Loews cancels fundraiser for U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley at Universal Orlando’s Portofino Bay hotel

I always thought that a business could not discriminate based on color or creed.  I guess that only applies to conservative run businesses. 

Loews Hotels on Saturday canceled a planned fundraiser at its Portofino Bay Hotel at Universal Orlando for U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley, who spearheaded the objections to President-elect Biden’s win in Congress on Jan. 6.
Hawley. R-Missouri, was also shown in a photo raising his fist in solidarity with pro-Trump protesters on Capitol Hill prior to the violent assault on the Capitol building.
“We are horrified and opposed to the events at the Capitol and all who supported and incited the actions,” Loews said in a statement on Twitter. “In light of those events and for the safety of our guests and team members, we have informed the host of the Feb. fundraiser that it will no longer be held at Loews Hotels.”



https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-hawley-fundraier-orlando-20210116-vxsovvofb5hz3dplinvlokz5pe-story.html
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2021, 05:08:05 AM »

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/apple-parler-moderation-return/2021/01/15/id/1005834/

Apple CEO Tim Cook claims social media platform Parler and its mobile application could return to Apple’s virtual store if it gets its ''moderation together.''



https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/constitutional-alan-dershowitz-free-speech-violations/2021/01/16/id/1005883/


https://www.newsmax.com/politics/manchin-congress-cruz-hawley/2021/01/16/id/1005893/



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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 05:13:27 AM »

As of the 20th I think it will just get worse. We'll get what we voted for even sooner than I thought.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2021, 05:19:23 AM »

Pennsylvania’s Lt Governor Says You Don’t Have A Constitutional Right To Say The Election Was Rigged…

https://twitter.com/i/status/1350116536581808128

You dont have the right to say the election was rigged, period.

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2021, 05:31:28 AM »

Pennsylvania’s Lt Governor Says You Don’t Have A Constitutional Right To Say The Election Was Rigged…

https://twitter.com/i/status/1350116536581808128

You dont have the right to say the election was rigged, period.




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The ballot box gets "stuffed" and a dictator winds up in charge.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 05:35:17 AM »

Just wondering how you all exercised your right to free speech before the days of Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Amazon. You know back in the prehistoric times in the 20 th century.
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2021, 11:43:19 AM »

Just wondering how you all exercised your right to free speech before the days of Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Amazon. You know back in the prehistoric times in the 20 th century.





And thats how I still do it, I'm an antique.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2021, 04:45:41 PM »

And it continues.   Do as I say or you are off the platform.   No matter if the words are true or not. 

Georgia Congresswoman Temporarily Suspended From Twitter

Newly-elected Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene was suspended from Twitter after a tweeting a number of controversial posts. The singular tweet that made Twitter decide to suspend her was her alleging that her state’s senate runoff elections were possibly rigged. She was suspended from using her Twitter account with over 265,000 followers for 12 hours.

THE 1/5 DISASTER IN GEORGIA LAYS SOLELY IN THE HANDS OF STATE LEADERSHIP WHO FAILED VOTERS IN OUR STATE.@GASECOFSTATE AND @GABRIELSTERLING WERE BEGGED BY REPUBLICANS TO FIX OUR ELECTIONS.

THEY DID NOTHING.

THEY ARE TO BLAME, NOT ME, NOT @REALDONALDTRUMP, NOT @COLLINSFORGA. PIC.TWITTER.COM/YYUEUJDBIB

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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2021, 07:41:26 PM »

What a surprise - NOT !!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2021, 04:14:22 AM »

https://www.newsmax.com/us/cnn-cancel-culture-big-tech-censorship/2021/01/17/id/1006021/

“CNN is making no mistake about it: It wants to censor and close Newsmax from broadcasting as a cable news channel.”


“ Apparently jolted by the fact Newsmax has skyrocketed to become the 4th highest-rated cable news channel in the country, the liberal CNN is decrying what it calls Newsmax's "election denialism" and is seeking to have it "deplatformed" from cable and satellite systems across the nation.”

“Oliver Darcy, CNN's leftwing media critic, has been demanding cable operators drop Newsmax, which is currently carried by every major system in the nation. Newsmax is also streamed free by most OTT platforms and devices.”


And this also;

https://www.theblaze.com/news/twitter-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene

"If a conservative dares to utter a political opinion that is deemed unapproved by the internet police they are now subject to false accusations of 'inciting violence' simply for having a conservative view," the press release said.“


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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2021, 04:50:23 AM »

The Liberals may be "Dancing in the Streets" now.

Celebrating what they believe to be a great victory.

Believing that the silencing of people with viewpoints that are different from their own is a good thing.

But, there will come a day when even their viewpoint is no longer "Progressive" enough and will also be silenced by the machine.


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Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
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Then they came for me
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2021, 07:25:53 AM »

Here's a nice piece on MSMedia radicalization and incitement program.

https://thenationalpulse.com/analysis/the-medias-incitement-campaign-against-congress-is-what-really-radicalized-americans/
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2021, 08:53:13 AM »

Parler is back on Google Play store, for those interested. The website is in progress of being back online as well.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2021, 10:15:21 AM »

I just checked and it appears that the app is back on the Apple App Store as well.  I already had it on my phone so I did not verify it could be downloaded.
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2021, 06:58:34 PM »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/01/18/parler-app-conservative-platform-could-return-ceo-john-matze/4202517001/
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2021, 05:45:39 AM »

This little piece of information goes contrary to your assumption.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group
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