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« on: February 18, 2021, 05:04:42 AM » |
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We're getting closer to seeing what's out there.
I have no doubt there is life on Mars, I watched Looney Tunes as a child, Marvin the Martian always pulled through.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2021, 05:16:46 AM » |
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Are we as a collective ready for such a discovery? Will people really care? I would find it amazing as would millions of others but I could see the flip side of so many more saying who cares, big deal and so what.
As we are into a year of this virus issue, what will be found, what will be brought back to Earth? We can barely deal with a virus from bat crap, are there potential viruses out “there”?
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2021, 05:42:54 AM » |
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Are we as a collective ready for such a discovery? Will people really care? I would find it amazing as would millions of others but I could see the flip side of so many more saying who cares, big deal and so what.
As we are into a year of this virus issue, what will be found, what will be brought back to Earth? We can barely deal with a virus from bat crap, are there potential viruses out “there”?
The path seeking knowledge has always had it's pit falls and dangers. We don't know what we don't know. Going where no man has gone before......... As I always told my wife when I was leaving for another transport to different locations. Every trip is an adventure, some more adventurous than others.  Rams
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2021, 07:08:29 AM » |
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I don't know if there is "life" on Mars today. In the past most probably. Figuring out the answer is interesting but not that important to our overall understanding of the Universe.
A young lady once asked me (many years ago) if I believed there was life on other planets. I looked at her and said something like this.
If you believe that life on earth is a random event, then of course there is life on other planets. The odds of that are very very high given the number of planets in our galaxy.
If you believe that life on earth is the direct result of an act by God, then, given all the other planets in the galaxy and in the universe, why would God only choose to put life on this single planet.
Yes, there is life elsewhere in the galaxy and for sure in the universe.
Life on Mars, bacteria, viruses, mold, ect probably, but might well be different than life here.
Another potential place for life in this solar system is Europa, a moon of Jupiter. The following is a quote from a NASA article.
Europa's surface is mostly water ice, and there is evidence that it may be covering an ocean of water or slushy ice beneath. Europa is thought to have twice as much water as does Earth. This moon intrigues astrobiologists because of its potential for having a "habitable zone." Life forms have been found thriving near subterranean volcanoes on Earth and in other extreme locations that may be analogues to what may exist on Europa.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2021, 08:21:27 AM » |
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Life elsewhere in the universe ? Outside of our solar system, almost a certainty. Will we ever find it ? I don't know, it depends if we can develop a faster-than-light drive or not.
Life elsewhere in our solar system ? Carolina pretty much covered it. There maybe other moons / planets where it maybe possible. Again, need the faster-than-light drive or lots of time to get there and back.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2021, 08:32:23 AM » |
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Life elsewhere in the universe ? Outside of our solar system, almost a certainty.
The odds are sure with it. I'd bet there's stuff out there that would blow our puny little minds and more than a few (billion) critters that would scare the bejeebers out of us. Many others would taste like chicken!
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2021, 09:50:38 AM » |
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Biden should do a site visit (with his whole team).
I'll even volunteer extra taxes if they go. Or maybe do a big Go-Fund-Me.
Is this trip one way or round trip? I already KNOW which one I'd throw some chips in fer.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2021, 12:35:10 PM » |
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Just don't let Matt Damon go, it seem we're always having to go save his butt.  Rams
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2021, 01:57:11 PM » |
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Are we as a collective ready for such a discovery? Will people really care? I would find it amazing as would millions of others but I could see the flip side of so many more saying who cares, big deal and so what.
As we are into a year of this virus issue, what will be found, what will be brought back to Earth? We can barely deal with a virus from bat crap, are there potential viruses out “there”?
The path seeking knowledge has always had it's pit falls and dangers. We don't know what we don't know. Going where no man has gone before......... As I always told my wife when I was leaving for another transport to different locations. Every trip is an adventure, some more adventurous than others.  Rams “To boldly go where no man has gone before”
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2021, 02:21:32 PM » |
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Interesting question. If one believes life magically sprung for the primordial ooze and grew more complex over time then one should naturally believe it could arise anywhere in some form. I don't. Looking at the conditions that very narrowly are able to support life as we know it causes one to recognize that the Earth is quite uniquely set for that task. If one believes that life as we know it was specifically created then it's a completely different question. I have no problem with accepting that God created a universe but only put life on one tiny planet. I have no problem with accepting that God created life on several planets or systems maybe even in differing forms. It seems to me as I search the Word He has given us that the only life with which we need to be concerned is that provided to us here on this one seemingly insignificant little ball in the universe. I have no problem with space exploration. It's a good form of human adventure and lends a lot of development to technology that we use every day. I am more than a bit skeptical of attaching the search for life elsewhere as a purpose for our exploration beyond the ionosphere. I also join with another in concern for what forms of life such as viruses may be brought home to us if it exists on Mars.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2021, 03:35:12 PM » |
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“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2021, 03:45:51 PM » |
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Perhaps, in our exploration endeavors we will find "life". Maybe on Mars. Maybe on a distant moon.
We will discover undeniable evidence of it.
Then we will have to define it.
And if we can look upon microbes on an alien planet with such wonder...what of ourselves?
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2021, 04:02:48 PM » |
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Are we as a collective ready for such a discovery? Will people really care? I would find it amazing as would millions of others but I could see the flip side of so many more saying who cares, big deal and so what.
As we are into a year of this virus issue, what will be found, what will be brought back to Earth? We can barely deal with a virus from bat crap, are there potential viruses out “there”?
The path seeking knowledge has always had it's pit falls and dangers. We don't know what we don't know. Going where no man has gone before......... As I always told my wife when I was leaving for another transport to different locations. Every trip is an adventure, some more adventurous than others.  Rams “To boldly go where no man has gone before” That's what I once told the dr. that was about to perform a colonoscopy. He asked if that was my first one to which I answered "no." He then asked how my comment could possibly be true....to which I answered..."easy, it was a female doctor." He grumbled something about being a wise guy and walked away. Everyone else in the room got a good chuckle over it. No sense of humor in his bank I guess!  As for alien life, I sorta echo Willow's comments with a couple exceptions. Just go to Walmart around midnight, alien life in abundance is present....or so it seems!
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2021, 06:29:51 PM » |
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My ladyfriend was very excited about the Rover landing.
She worked on the guidance system for the early AGM-158 JASSM.
The guidance system used for the landing is a development of work done by the team she worked for at Marietta Martin. She tells me that members of the team have been calling each other all day.
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There were ten of us locked in that lab for almost three years, doing work we were told couldn’t be done. “Impossible.” But we did it. Each of us had our arena. Mine was gathering imagery and evaluating it, and making recommendations for target acquisition and obstacle avoidance. My system didn’t make the decisions / that was two other guys. But the recognition part, that’s all me. What we created was cutting edge and new, so in its infancy.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2021, 06:31:19 PM » |
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 There are many unsung heroes in the space industry. We don't hear about them often. Thanks for sharing. Its sort of like (but not that much) the video of Neil Armstrong first setting foot on the lunar surface. There is movie about that live video. The story line. In the days before the July 19, 1969 space mission that marked humankind's first steps on the moon, NASA was working with a group of Australian technicians who had agreed to rig up a satellite interface. That the Aussies placed the satellite dish smack dab in the middle of an Australian sheep farm in the boondocks town of Parkes was just one of the reasons that NASA was concerned. Based on a true story, The Dish takes a smart, witty, comical look at the differing cultural attitudes between Australia and the U.S. while revisiting one of the greatest events in history. Written by Anonymoushttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205873/
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2021, 10:10:58 AM » |
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NASA expects to spend approximately $2.7 billion on the Perseverance rover project. That seems a bit steep when the (entire) return on investment is a few pictures like this.   You can get pictures on Earth for considerably less. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2021, 11:39:27 AM » |
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NASA expects to spend approximately $2.7 billion on the Perseverance rover project. That seems a bit steep when the (entire) return on investment is a few pictures like this.   You can get pictures on Earth for considerably less.  27 BILLION? And to think it depreciated probably 50% as soon as it rolled out. Probably pick it up cheap in 20 years or so...of course the shipping would be a killer.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2021, 01:32:41 PM » |
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 There are many unsung heroes in the space industry. We don't hear about them often. Thanks for sharing. Its sort of like (but not that much) the video of Neil Armstrong first setting foot on the lunar surface. There is movie about that live video. The story line. In the days before the July 19, 1969 space mission that marked humankind's first steps on the moon, NASA was working with a group of Australian technicians who had agreed to rig up a satellite interface. That the Aussies placed the satellite dish smack dab in the middle of an Australian sheep farm in the boondocks town of Parkes was just one of the reasons that NASA was concerned. Based on a true story, The Dish takes a smart, witty, comical look at the differing cultural attitudes between Australia and the U.S. while revisiting one of the greatest events in history. Written by Anonymoushttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205873/ Her father worked on lunar landing stuff. Brainiacs. She keeps me on my mental toes. Good fun.
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