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mhallock
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« on: April 08, 2021, 12:37:49 PM »

2001 Interstate, 110,000 miles, Metzler ME 888 Marathon tires.....front tire wearing much more on the left side than the right....what do you think??  (I believe I make just as many right turns as left turns)...

Mark
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 12:57:30 PM »

All left turns are longer. That’s why it wears more.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 01:49:38 PM »

All left turns are longer. That’s why it wears more.

What??  If that were true, everyone would have a tire like mhallock.... he has a problem.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 04:20:28 PM »

The turn left from an intersection is much longer than a right turn.
 
A right turn you barley have enough time to get moving due to the tight radius. A left turn, you can get moving up to 20-25 mph as you lay into the much longer radius.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 04:31:34 PM »

Left side extra wear is pretty common.  Not really abnormal, but extra wear.

Not only are left turns longer, they are usually faster too.  Right turns in town, you have to slow down and roll a pretty sharp turn, unlike left turn sweepers.

It is not the road crown.  Big and fast roads, the roads are pretty flat.  The tallest crowns are on slower two lanes.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 04:59:56 PM »

also using more of the rear brake helps.

https://www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/about/faq/#faq-4
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You may not be able to entirely avoid cupping. Tire cupping or irregular wear is a somewhat common occurrence on all vehicles. On a four-wheel vehicle, you are advised to rotate your tires periodically to even out wear. Unfortunately, you do not have this luxury with a motorcycle because front and rear tires, unlike those on most four-wheel vehicles, are not interchangeable.

However, there are steps that can be taken to minimize cupping and uneven wear on a motorcycle: Maintain your motorcycle and particularly your front and suspension. Avoid hard braking whenever possible. Braking causes the tire to grab and wear in one direction. When braking is applied to the front tire, the load transfer over-flexes the tire and increases the tendency for cupping and uneven wear. Maintain your tire pressures. Under inflation and overloading of motorcycle tires are significant causes of cupping and uneven wear, particularly in association with hard braking and/or trailer use.

Once a tire begins to show signs of uneven wear, even following these steps may not improve the condition.

Tire companies can, and are, helping to minimize cupping and uneven wear but you, the rider, must do your part. Following the aforementioned guidelines will help avoid uneven wear.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 05:08:32 PM »

After I started running Dynabeads in my new tires, I got a lot less cupping and tire wear issues. They are not he fix all, but really seam to help. Not sure they would do much good fixing the problem by putting them in a used tire.

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 07:27:39 PM »

Every front tire I’ve had on a Valkyrie wears more on the left side.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 07:59:06 PM »

The crest of the the road way, and 2 up will ware the left side more. My 2 cents
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2021, 02:31:09 PM »

Thanks to everyone for your input.....I did not know this was a common condition.  I (almost) always ride in the left tire track for visibility reasons.....I haven't ridden two up with this tire as my wife had hip problems, then hip surgery....I never thought about the length or speed of a left hand turn as apposed to a right hand turn in local traffic situations, which local riding is probably the most type of riding I have done with this tire.  The wealth of knowledge and advice from this group never ceases to amaze me...thanks again.

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2021, 02:49:19 PM »

Every front tire I’ve had on a Valkyrie wears more on the left side.


well u do lean left   Grin
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2021, 04:34:06 PM »

2001 Interstate, 110,000 miles, Metzler ME 888 Marathon tires.....front tire wearing much more on the left side than the right....what do you think??  (I believe I make just as many right turns as left turns)...

Mark

Your perspective is that the tire is wearing MUCH MORE on the left than the right.

If you has said slightly more I'd maybe chalk it up to left turns and the crown of the road.

But you said much more.

I'd look further into it for sure.

Does it run true when you let go of the handlebar? For the sake of liability I DO NOT RECOMMEND DOING THAT.  But the question remains. LOL

I cannot provide any mechanical advice on this except to do due diligence in pursuing a possible cause.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2021, 05:16:59 PM »

If it is just left turns (or whatever it is), abnormal tire wear tends to increase (and certainly never gets better), even if the thing causing it is removed/diminished.  Like a guy who runs 25 lbs for a thousand miles; going up to 40 is still better, but it doesn't save the tire.   
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2021, 05:38:47 PM »

There's no such thing as a non crowned road in the USA. Some more, some less. Talk to someone who rides a Valk in Australia or the UK and the right side wears more.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2021, 06:55:58 AM »

Also the Metz 888 is a harder compound than Exedra 701/702 I prefer to use and but the Avon Cobra which I'm running now seem to be wearing to the left but neither brands have done any cupping but do show a tad of L side wear near their expiration of their tread wear.
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2021, 08:08:41 PM »

also using more of the rear brake helps.

https://www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/about/faq/#faq-4
How can I keep my tires from cupping?
Top

You may not be able to entirely avoid cupping. Tire cupping or irregular wear is a somewhat common occurrence on all vehicles. On a four-wheel vehicle, you are advised to rotate your tires periodically to even out wear. Unfortunately, you do not have this luxury with a motorcycle because front and rear tires, unlike those on most four-wheel vehicles, are not interchangeable.

However, there are steps that can be taken to minimize cupping and uneven wear on a motorcycle: Maintain your motorcycle and particularly your front and suspension. Avoid hard braking whenever possible. Braking causes the tire to grab and wear in one direction. When braking is applied to the front tire, the load transfer over-flexes the tire and increases the tendency for cupping and uneven wear. Maintain your tire pressures. Under inflation and overloading of motorcycle tires are significant causes of cupping and uneven wear, particularly in association with hard braking and/or trailer use.

Once a tire begins to show signs of uneven wear, even following these steps may not improve the condition.

Tire companies can, and are, helping to minimize cupping and uneven wear but you, the rider, must do your part. Following the aforementioned guidelines will help avoid uneven wear.

Never had left or right variation but had cupping that was cured by running 40-42 psi
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2021, 10:07:14 AM »

"Round-abouts" do nothing to improve left side tire wear either..... question
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2021, 11:24:48 AM »

"Round-abouts" do nothing to improve left side tire wear either..... question

Especially because I like going around several times before exiting. Grin
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2021, 01:44:54 PM »

"Round-abouts" do nothing to improve left side tire wear either..... question

Especially because I like going around several times before exiting. Grin

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