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98valk
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« on: April 14, 2021, 09:12:43 AM »

from TS-Moly.  I have been using their products for yrs, but not this new one.

https://www.tsmoly.com/grease-spline-grease-p-367.html

S-60 SG is designed to lubricate all types of splined shafts, motorcycle drive splines, u-joints, swing arms, starter drive gear, bushings, pins, etc. Formulated with synthetic base oil and 60% molybdenum disulfide, TS-60 SG withstands extreme heat and protects components under heavy load. Uniform and durable boundary lubrication is provided on parts operating in wet and harsh environments. TS-60 SG is highly adhesive and will not fling off or dry out under accelerated conditions.
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2021, 10:29:15 AM »

from TS-Moly.  I have been using their products for yrs, but not this new one.

https://www.tsmoly.com/grease-spline-grease-p-367.html

S-60 SG is designed to lubricate all types of splined shafts, motorcycle drive splines, u-joints, swing arms, starter drive gear, bushings, pins, etc. Formulated with synthetic base oil and 60% molybdenum disulfide, TS-60 SG withstands extreme heat and protects components under heavy load. Uniform and durable boundary lubrication is provided on parts operating in wet and harsh environments. TS-60 SG is highly adhesive and will not fling off or dry out under accelerated conditions.

It appears ideal for our bikes.  The calcium thickener is preferred for water resistance.  Molybdenum disulfide is recommended when splined components are continually beating against each other. 

Thank you for sharing.

more info
calcium sulfonate thickeners provide good anti-wear, extreme pressure and corrosion resistance.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2021, 10:37:58 AM »

Ordered - thanks for the link. I have some moly grease, but it isn't 60%.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 06:43:41 AM »

Honda M77 can be cheaper ($20 Ebay) and slightly more volume. M77 was the replacement for Honda Moly 60.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2021, 10:31:38 AM »

Honda M77 can be cheaper ($20 Ebay) and slightly more volume. M77 was the replacement for Honda Moly 60.


many sites stating it might be and more say it is not a replacement for Moly 60
https://www.st-owners.com/forums/threads/where-did-the-recommendation-for-honda-m-77-assembly-paste-start.161788/page-3

even a honda listing for it makes one think

Honda M-77 Assembly Paste

A high-molybdenum-content paste that polishes more than it lubricates. For use on the back of brake pads and on brake drums.
https://www.bernardiparts.com/Honda-M-77-Assembly-Paste__08798-9010.aspx


I've been using TS-70 moly paste and mix it in a 80:20 ratio with jetlube CB-2 grease https://docs.jetlube.com/documents/TDS+-+Central+Repository-/TDS+GLOBAL+REPOSITORY+-+PDF/English/Jet-Lube/CB-2_TDS_English.pdf
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2023, 09:50:15 PM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2023, 10:59:40 PM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?

Suggest ordering from the BMW parts guy. You get more for less money. It's the very same stuff. And they are motorcycle guys, the ordering setup is better than direct from the tsmoly people.

https://www.beemershop.com/product/ts-60-spline-lube.html

For Reference
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,126298.0.html
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2023, 11:12:55 PM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?

Suggest ordering from the BMW parts guy. You get more for less money. It's the very same stuff. And they are motorcycle guys, the ordering setup is better than direct from the tsmoly people.

https://www.beemershop.com/product/ts-60-spline-lube.html

For Reference
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,126298.0.html

Thats exactly what I did. Tires on my bike still look great but no idea what was applied when they were put on so Im going to pull the rear end off and apply the TS-60. I did already do the final drive oil, does that need to be drained when before I pull the rear tire off?
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2023, 07:37:33 AM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?

Suggest ordering from the BMW parts guy. You get more for less money. It's the very same stuff. And they are motorcycle guys, the ordering setup is better than direct from the tsmoly people.

https://www.beemershop.com/product/ts-60-spline-lube.html

For Reference
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,126298.0.html

Thats exactly what I did. Tires on my bike still look great but no idea what was applied when they were put on so Im going to pull the rear end off and apply the TS-60. I did already do the final drive oil, does that need to be drained when before I pull the rear tire off?
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2023, 07:48:06 AM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?

Suggest ordering from the BMW parts guy. You get more for less money. It's the very same stuff. And they are motorcycle guys, the ordering setup is better than direct from the tsmoly people.

https://www.beemershop.com/product/ts-60-spline-lube.html

For Reference
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,126298.0.html

Thats exactly what I did. Tires on my bike still look great but no idea what was applied when they were put on so Im going to pull the rear end off and apply the TS-60. I did already do the final drive oil, does that need to be drained when before I pull the rear tire off?

the final drive is a sealed unit, draining not required to change tire.

How to select a good gear oil based on VI index.
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,110541.0.html
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2023, 11:37:01 AM »

Thinking about ordering some of this, anyone have a follow up that has used it?

Suggest ordering from the BMW parts guy. You get more for less money. It's the very same stuff. And they are motorcycle guys, the ordering setup is better than direct from the tsmoly people.

https://www.beemershop.com/product/ts-60-spline-lube.html

For Reference
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,126298.0.html

Thats exactly what I did. Tires on my bike still look great but no idea what was applied when they were put on so Im going to pull the rear end off and apply the TS-60. I did already do the final drive oil, does that need to be drained when before I pull the rear tire off?

the final drive is a sealed unit, draining not required to change tire.

How to select a good gear oil based on VI index.
https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,110541.0.html

Thanks!! After reading all the posts about gear oil and the splines and the 3 holes I wasn't sure if it would start leaking out but as is my understanding as long as the o-rings are functioning the gear oil shouldn't be entering the splines.
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2023, 12:20:53 PM »

After removal, if you set it with the pinion cup or vent pointed down, it will leak out of those.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2023, 02:00:41 PM »

After removal, if you set it with the pinion cup or vent pointed down, it will leak out of those.

Gutcha! Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2023, 02:35:30 PM »


The fellow who runs the tech sessions at InZane depends wholly
on the final drive fluid lubricating the pinion cup. Here's what
my pinion cup looked like when I pulled my shaft for maintenance
during a tire change once...



If the holes aren't plugged and you assemble it like the
manual says "pack 2 g  (0.08oz) of molybdenum disulfide
grease into the pinion joint spline" what I got is what
you should expect. I once weighed 0.08oz of grease,
it amounts to just a light coating.

I've done "the maintenance" numerous different ways
that have worked fine. Packing the splines with waterproof
blue belray grease seems to work. This stuff, or probably
any other moly paste, does fine...



-Mike
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