Hole in one!

[hubcapsc]

Three guesses as to where my valve stem cap is now...



After I got underway, I was taken aback by how much different the
clutch disengagement point on the 1500 is from the 1800, way closer
to the bars. After a while it became obvious that it was more than
just a difference, soon the clutch wasn't going to disengage at all
anymore! It was an interesting ride home, I'm sure I looked drunk
in several intersections. I think (hope) a master cylinder rebuild
will fix it, I don't think I have the rivet issue.



-Mike "now it is cat related..."

[The emperor has no clothes]

I didn’t realize they would fit. I’m going to be more careful now !

[Skinhead]

Was the cap plastic or metal?  If it was steel, a small magnet?

[hal47]

Ain't that always the way, you could try 100 times to drop it in that hole and not have success,but accidently drop it and bingo'

[hubcapsc]

Was the cap plastic or metal?  If it was steel, a small magnet?

It is metal. I held a magnet up to its similar (identical?) replacement,
not magnetic...

I can't hear it, I thought it would make a racket. I'll try to spill it out
somehow when I have the front wheel off next... ?

-Mike

[hubcapsc]

Ain't that always the way, you could try 100 times to drop it in that hole and not have success,but accidently drop it and bingo'

Nothing but net.

-Mike

[Bret SD]

Ain't that always the way, you could try 100 times to drop it in that hole and not have success,but accidently drop it and bingo'

Nothing but net.

-Mike

Murphy's law my friend, drop a bolt and it rolls to the most inaccessible spot under the car like it just HAS to be.. can't explain it...

A welder buddy once told me if he ever fell out of an airplane, he'd want his welding lead with him.. he knows it would catch on SOMETHING!! haha

[Jess from VA]

Magnets work poorly with aluminum. 

[DDT (12)]

Mike,

Hmmm, I'd have figured your 'magnetic personality' would have done the trick... Glad, at least you've still got the cat with you... Good luck!!!

DDT

[Robert]

  Well that stinks, pass me the 10mm socket. 

[indybobm]

As for the clutch issue, has the fluid level in the master cylinder gone down out all? Might be a leaking slave cylinder, it can also suck air if it is leaking.

[hubcapsc]

As for the clutch issue, has the fluid level in the master cylinder gone down out all? Might be a leaking slave cylinder, it can also suck air if it is leaking.

The fluid in my handlebar master cylinders isn't brand new, but it hasn't
got a lot of miles on it. Both of the little windows show real clear. As I
have been thinking about it since yesterday, I think the clutch side
might be a little too clear.  ... I rode the black
bike today with a local cruiser club today, I didn't work on the red bike's
clutch any. I'm willing to bet the clutch side is almost empty.





I put the red bike in the workshop shed when I got home yesterday. I read some
posts about rebuilding slave cylinders last night. I got down and looked (dimly)
at the slave cylinder and felt of it this morning, it wasn't gooey with leakage
or anything...

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

As for the clutch issue, has the fluid level in the master cylinder gone down out all? Might be a leaking slave cylinder, it can also suck air if it is leaking.

The fluid in my handlebar master cylinders isn't brand new, but it hasn't
got a lot of miles on it. Both of the little windows show real clear. As I
have been thinking about it since yesterday, I think the clutch side
might be a little too clear.  ... I rode the black
bike today with a local cruiser club today, I didn't work on the red bike's
clutch any. I'm willing to bet the clutch side is almost empty.





I put the red bike in the workshop shed when I got home yesterday. I read some
posts about rebuilding slave cylinders last night. I got down and looked (dimly)
at the slave cylinder and felt of it this morning, it wasn't gooey with leakage
or anything...

-Mike

Could you tell if any of the silver paint was corroded on the rear case ? I think a cleaning and rebuilding of both the slave cylinder and master cylinder is pretty cheap, and helpful. (It definitely doesn’t sound like rivets) 

[Avanti]

I would plug all holes but two. Than put high air pressure with as much volume as possible in one.  Maybe it will come out the other.

[Skinhead]

I'm sure the cat will figure it out they're  pretty smart.

[Jess from VA]

I would plug all holes but two. Than put high air pressure with as much volume as possible in one.  Maybe it will come out the other.

And eye protection. 

[Valker]

I use a piece of thin board (1"X2") to prevent the pistons from coming completely out of the caliper. I use air pressure with a rubber valve stem to pressurize the caliper. The pop out until the board stops them. I keep the pressure on until both are out to the board. Release the pressure, remove the board, the pistons will usually pull out by hand.

[hubcapsc]

Could you tell if any of the silver paint was corroded on the rear case ? I think a cleaning and rebuilding of both the slave cylinder and master cylinder is pretty cheap, and helpful. (It definitely doesn’t sound like rivets)

This is what I think and hope. I couldn't really tell anything from my cursory
investigation this morning. I'm familier with the cap where you bleed the
clutch, but I've never messed with its slave cylinder before, so I was just
kind of looky-feeling to see exactly where back there it is. And then I took
off to meet the cruiser guys (and gals)...

I use a piece of thin board (1"X2") to prevent the pistons from coming completely out of the caliper. I use air pressure with a rubber valve stem to pressurize the caliper. The pop out until the board stops them. I keep the pressure on until both are out to the board. Release the pressure, remove the board, the pistons will usually pull out by hand.

And this makes me think I put in too many cat pictures  ...

-Mike

[Red Diamond]

There is a weep hole at the bottom of the slave cylinder, the brake fluid does a good job of bubbling that silver paint or any paint it touches.

[Skinhead]

And this makes me think I put in too many cat pictures  ...

-Mike

I didn't mean that at all Mike.  Please continue with the cat pictures.  I like cats, but I like dogs more.  Any animal that follows you around and gets in your way/trips you while you are going about your business is ok in my book.

[scooperhsd]

Three guesses as to where my valve stem cap is now...



After I got underway, I was taken aback by how much different the
clutch disengagement point on the 1500 is from the 1800, way closer
to the bars. After a while it became obvious that it was more than
just a difference, soon the clutch wasn't going to disengage at all
anymore! It was an interesting ride home, I'm sure I looked drunk
in several intersections. I think (hope) a master cylinder rebuild
will fix it, I don't think I have the rivet issue.



-Mike "now it is cat related..."

Your cat looks awfully similar to our Bean, who got out for a 3-4 week spell where we had no idea where he went - must have been in the backyard or closeby and just didn't know he needed to come to the door. (He's been an indoor cat the whole time we have had him).

[hubcapsc]

Your cat looks awfully similar to our Bean, who got out for a 3-4 week spell where we had no idea where he went - must have been in the backyard or closeby and just didn't know he needed to come to the door. (He's been an indoor cat the whole time we have had him).


Some kitties have to live indoors to keep from getting run over or whatever. When such
kitties escape, they often seem "lost" right away, hopefully they don't run off so far
trying to figure out what to do that they're never seen again. Food noises... shaking the
kibble box or tapping a spoon on a bowl... sometimes will get them to come running.
Glad you got your Bean back. Our kitties come and go, it's a mixed blessing. My awesome
white cat got shot a couple of years ago. My awesome black cat who wasn't afraid of
anything went outside one night while I was away on a ride and we never saw him
again. I work hard to get the yellow cat in the pictures here back inside each night
and don't let her out again until daylight. Cats are easy to see at night when you're
wearing a "headlight" because their eyes do this: 



I have to go to the grocery store and then some other stuff, so I can't really
tear into the job yet. After Church I crawled under the 1500 and got this picture.
It is rotated to optimize the amount of interesting stuff on the screen:



-Mike

[Valkorado]

cats are easy to see at night when you're
wearing a "headlight" because their eyes do this: 




-Mike

Nope.  That one's possessed, I tell ya!   

[hubcapsc]

Nope.  That one's possessed, I tell ya!



-Mike

[Valkorado]

Nope.  That one's possessed, I tell ya!



-Mike

   Lock her out of your room when you're sleeping. 

I love cats.  And dogs.  Cats are easier to leave behind for road trips.  Ours still gets very pissed when we do.

[msb]

Was the cap plastic or metal?  If it was steel, a small magnet?

It is metal. I held a magnet up to its similar (identical?) replacement,
not magnetic...

I can't hear it, I thought it would make a racket. I'll try to spill it out
somehow when I have the front wheel off next... ?

-Mike

That's happened to me...I put the bike up on the jack and slowly turned the wheel...in reverse i think...and after a couple of rotations it popped out.

[hubcapsc]

That's happened to me...I put the bike up on the jack and slowly turned the wheel...in reverse i think...and after a couple of rotations it popped out.

I rode 50 miles after I dropped it in there... maybe it flew out already...

-Mike