cholesterol medicine...

[hubcapsc]

My combined cholesterol number has been gradually increasing...
they've been threatening me with statins  

So, every day*...





... a little brown sugar, half a banana, (threw in some strawberries because we had them),
oatmeal, a couple of handfuls of blueberries and some honey...

last September: 210 mg/dL
last month:         183 mg/dL        

Who's to say if the oatmeal is wholly, or even partially, responsible? I still go to 5 guys occasionally and
we get BBQ (that's Bar B Queue to Hal!) almost every Friday. More fish (salmon) and lots of chicken...
No more cereal at breakfast = no more milk. Almost no red meat at home.

-Mike

* I got McDonald's oatmeal a couple of times on the Hattiesburg ride and had to eat
  bacon and eggs a couple of other times...

[Valkorado]

Oatmeal is a miraculous super food and cholesterol killer.  I need to force myself to partake of it more regularly.  Don't like it much, about halfway through a bowl I feel like Mister Ed.   

I do the blueberries, and pomegranate too!

[scooperhsd]

I like oatmeal. Usually my Saturday AM breakfast with milk, Although I can be persuaded for other things (that include bacon or sausage as well).

My usual fixing  - 3/4 cup old fashioned oats (sometimes 1/2 cup old fashioned, 1/4 cup quick cooking), pinch of salt and 1 cup water in microwaveable bowl. Microwave for 2 minutes. Add some milk (and sometimes dark chocolate chips) and enjoy.   

[..]

At home, oatmeal every day.

With water.

And a teaspoon of peanut butter

And a couple of spoons of raisins.

[f6john]

You guys must want to live forever!

[scooperhsd]

You guys must want to live forever!

Well, maybe not forever, but at least as well as I can for the time I'm supposed to be here.

[Wizzard]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

[f6gal]

Excellent news Mike.  

[f6gal]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

[Farther]

I love my bowl of steel-cut oatmeal.  But, it is full of stuff like tart cherries (sometimes blueberries or bananas), walnuts, a little flaxseed meal, cinnamon, and a couple of tablespoons of real maple syrup.  Always cooked in whole milk and more recently in SILK brand almond/coconut milk.  To be honest, the maple syrup turns the oatmeal from medicine into something delicious.  Only add the flaxseed meal after the cooking is done or you may end up with thicker stuff than you may want. 

[Bret SD]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Very true, I'll also add Vitamin C and Niacin do wonders.. and if you want to get rid of some arterial plaque then add Lysine and Proline to the mix. That's a very potent combo, along with diet exercise etc.. which the leads to less body fat, lower blood sugar.. etc..  Those in turn lead to a longer, healthier life. Being healthy leads to happiness and a greater quality of life, without our health we have.. nothing. 

[cookiedough]

wife has been trying to get me to eat her oatmeal she eats every day.  I dislike it would prefer a bagel or cereal for breakfast.  She says is good for me but not if I cannot eat it without disliking it that much.  We already know I will depart before her more than likely......

[Robert]

Make a big enough serving to have some to put in the fridge, its great either when reheated or a snack.

But I make mine with real oats or steel cut not the minute stuff, wheat germ, vanilla, real maple syrup, raisins or bananas or both. I put the bananas in when its cooking but after awhile otherwise they would cook to nothing. You can freeze it also for later.

You can either use water or combine that with milk by first using water and boil a bit then adding milk to consistency. As a treat a small bit of half and half makes it so good just dont overdo it.  

 But Sometimes at night I want a snack and take a few scoops out of the fridge and usually just have it cold but other times put in a little milk and heat in the micro for about a minute stir then heat another 30 seconds.

This with a boiled egg is a great breakfast.

Since I get out pretty early and dont want to fuss will have the oatmeal already done take 2 or 3 scoops out micro, take the boiled eggs out from the pack bought from the grocery store, put it in my coffee cup and run hot water in it with the egg. By the time the coffee is done the egg and cup are warm pour the coffee sit and have my oatmeal, egg and coffee all of 5 minutes a warm not hot breakfast just the way I like it. 

[Bret SD]

wife has been trying to get me to eat her oatmeal she eats every day.  I dislike it would prefer a bagel or cereal for breakfast.  She says is good for me but not if I cannot eat it without disliking it that much.  We already know I will depart before her more than likely......

Try adding frozen blueberries and a tablespoon of coconut oil.. it's delicious and nutritious I love to add in four eggs fried in Kerrygold butter on top and eat it together, that's my usual first meal.. that or a pound of hamburger baked and then throw the eggs on top.

[Robert]

or a pound of hamburger baked and then throw the eggs on top.

Yea that's heart healthy  

But soooo good

[Wizzard]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Some can, not everyone according to my doctor and what is acceptable numbers has changed a lot over the last 5 years. Same with diabetes diagnosis

[Robert]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Some can, not everyone according to my doctor and what is acceptable numbers has changed a lot over the last 5 years. Same with diabetes diagnosis

Exactly, Not to mention most of the time its not the cholesterol that is the problem its inflammation.

Look into red yeast rice also, although they changed the formulation it still is an effective way to lower cholesterol. They found it has the same ingredient as some of the medications and of course limited it. But it seems to be much more tolerable.

https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/red-yeast-rice

Of course being on the side of the government and this being a conspiracy theory you may not want to do it.

[hubcapsc]

Make a big enough serving to have some to put in the fridge, its great either when reheated or a snack.

I'm afraid that would be a downgrade 



-Mike "cookies have butter, though..."

[Valker]

I have to giggle at the oatmeal comments. My wife's grandfather ate it everyday for breakfast for years. One morning he fell face first into his bowl of oatmeal while eating breakfast, dead. His wife looked at him and said, "Oh, James. Stop it" before realizing he wasn't joking......

[scooperhsd]

Make a big enough serving to have some to put in the fridge, its great either when reheated or a snack.

I'm afraid that would be a downgrade 



-Mike "cookies have butter, though..."

That's my favorite cookie Oatmeal chocolate chip

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That's my favorite cookie Oatmeal chocolate chip cranberry pecan

-Mike "fify"

[f6gal]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Some can, not everyone according to my doctor and what is acceptable numbers has changed a lot over the last 5 years. Same with diabetes diagnosis

Your post implied no one can off the meds, once started.  Most people can get off the cholesterol and type 2 diabetes meds, but lack the will-power to do so.  Of course, there are exceptions to that; heredity is a powerful risk factor.

[Wizzard]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Some can, not everyone according to my doctor and what is acceptable numbers has changed a lot over the last 5 years. Same with diabetes diagnosis

Your post implied no one can off the meds, once started.  Most people can get off the cholesterol and type 2 diabetes meds, but lack the will-power to do so.  Of course, there are exceptions to that; heredity is a powerful risk factor.

Yeah I should not have said no one, but this stuff is prescribed way to often more now than ever as the numbers change.  As to my post, my bad, should have used better choice of words. 

[Oss]

have had always low chol.# like 150-170

but doc always on me about good chol at 29 no matter what

she said statins I said kiss my hiney  had one of those artery plaque scans once and no plaque

usually breakfast is a green shake start with hot water, some "calm" magnesium powder, some superfood and collagen, blueberries, mixed berries, pineapple, spinach or kale and 24 oz of water put i n the vitamix

everything in the house is organic either from the store or grown by me

[f6gal]

have had always low chol.# like 150-170

but doc always on me about good chol at 29 no matter what

she said statins I said kiss my hiney  had one of those artery plaque scans once and no plaque

usually breakfast is a green shake start with hot water, some "calm" magnesium powder, some superfood and collagen, blueberries, mixed berries, pineapple, spinach or kale and 24 oz of water put i n the vitamix

everything in the house is organic either from the store or grown by me

Physical activity, Omega 3 fatty acids, and niacin.  

[Valkorado]

I have to giggle at the oatmeal comments. My wife's grandfather ate it everyday for breakfast for years. One morning he fell face first into his bowl of oatmeal while eating breakfast, dead. His wife looked at him and said, "Oh, James. Stop it" before realizing he wasn't joking......

 

I hate catching myself laughing at these stories.  Can't help it, funny is funny!

[GiG]

once you are on those meds you can never get off and the drug cartel knows it.

Sorry, that isn't true.  You can get off them with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss.

Some can, not everyone according to my doctor and what is acceptable numbers has changed a lot over the last 5 years. Same with diabetes diagnosis

Your post implied no one can off the meds, once started.  Most people can get off the cholesterol and type 2 diabetes meds, but lack the will-power to do so.  Of course, there are exceptions to that; heredity is a powerful risk factor.

Yeah I should not have said no one, but this stuff is prescribed way to often more now than ever as the numbers change.  As to my post, my bad, should have used better choice of words. 

I must be the exemption once again - no statins for more than 6 months.
I eat tons of blueberries, buy flats of fresh ones in the summer and freeze them for smoothies all year.
Should probably eat more oatmeal, have to have that okayed by the Executive Chef 

[Wizzard]

My Father ate bacon and eggs every morning for breakfast and during the depression ate lard sandwiches. He died at 95. Maybe if he ate oatmeal he would have lived to 100 

[Patrick]

Yep, doc wanted me on statins. I said nope and the numbers would be down next visit. I didn't think the number was too bad, 250.  But the next visit was 190 and doc really wanted to know what had happened. Oatmeal happened. Thats it.

I'm a believer that the brain feeds on cholesterol and the number can't be too low. There is some research thinking that Alzheimer's and cholesterol are related.

[Bret SD]

My Father ate bacon and eggs every morning for breakfast and during the depression ate lard sandwiches. He died at 95. Maybe if he ate oatmeal he would have lived to 100 

More anecdotal evidence the cholesterol 'Lipid Theory' is flawed and outdated, I eat tons of fat and thrive on it.

[old2soon]

          I TRY to ingest oatmeal twice a week. And I keep it simple. Oatmeal and water boiled in a pot with some Real Butter and a touch of sea salt and Dark brown sugar or raw brown sugar when I can find it. Or my local to me raw Arkansas honey. Or pure maple syrup. And whether I'm home traveling or visiting with the travels-COFFEE. Too many years drivin truck and The U S Navy coffee available-24/7/365. And while I probably have too much bacon sausage eggs biscuits and gravy and bacon burgers I are still here! And I currently do NOT know my cholesterol numbers I'm sure I'll be informed on my upcoming annual physical. RIDE SAFE.

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[Jess from VA]

Oatmeal is my Kryptonite.

I know it's good for me.  It's easy to make.  It's cheap.  It can be flavored up with things.

No matter, it's still a bowl of lumpy mud, and every time I eat it, I think of all the old baby food videos where the kid is making bad faces and slobbering it all over his shirt and face and slinging it on the wall.  I know what you feel like buddy.

It's just that good.  

[GiG]

"Meet the new GiG, Same as the old GiG"

[98valk]

well it seems either my post was deleted or it didn't post.

anyway I suggest one research how important cholesterol esp LDL is for immune system function, esp against viruses.

too low and there goes ones immune system. but don't worry they have vaccines and other drugs as antidotes for ones weaken immune system caused by a low cholesterol diet and statin drugs.

grains including oatmeal all increase blood sugar levels which leads spiked insulin levels which scratches the blood vessels and leads to excessive cholesterol since the body uses cholesterol as a scab to heal the scratch damage.

[The emperor has no clothes]

My combined cholesterol number has been gradually increasing...
they've been threatening me with statins  

So, every day*...





... a little brown sugar, half a banana, (threw in some strawberries because we had them),
oatmeal, a couple of handfuls of blueberries and some honey...

last September: 210 mg/dL
last month:         183 mg/dL        

Who's to say if the oatmeal is wholly, or even partially, responsible? I still go to 5 guys occasionally and
we get BBQ (that's Bar B Queue to Hal!) almost every Friday. More fish (salmon) and lots of chicken...
No more cereal at breakfast = no more milk. Almost no red meat at home.

-Mike

* I got McDonald's oatmeal a couple of times on the Hattiesburg ride and had to eat
  bacon and eggs a couple of other times...

You should be very proud of doing what it takes to be healthy. It ain’t easy. I’ve been very lucky my entire life, never had much wrong with blood sugar, blood pressure, etc. But I have had high cholesterol my entire life. At least since I first found out about age 25. I imagine one day I will just keel over like Valker’s FIL. (Except my oatmeal is always loaded up with butter, cinnamon, and sugar)

[hubcapsc]

You should be very proud

More "happy" or "relieved" than proud... something made the numbers
go down, and the oatmeal concoction is dee-licious and filling... that helps
make it easy...

-Mike

[Binkie]

Yeah...I’ve been on statins for about 17 years. I was put on them after I had a stroke in my mid 40’s. It was more as a prevention thing since my cholesterol was just over 100 and the doctor wanted it under 100.

[98valk]

Yeah...I’ve been on statins for about 17 years. I was put on them after I had a stroke in my mid 40’s. It was more as a prevention thing since my cholesterol was just over 100 and the doctor wanted it under 100.

cholesterol levels have nothing to do with heart health. further more there is research showing the increase rate of Alzheimer's disease correlates with the rise in statin usage. 25% of the cholesterol in your body is found in your brain,  where it plays important roles in such things as membrane function, acts as an antioxidant, and serves as the raw material from which we are able to make things like progesterone, estrogen, cortisol, testosterone and even vitamin D.

In fact, in a recent study available on the NIH Public Access site, researchers showed that in the elderly, the best memory function was observed in those with the highest levels of cholesterol. Low cholesterol is associated with an increased risk for depression and even death.
https://www.drperlmutter.com/brain-needs-cholesterol/

lipids are the problem
Thanks to new research, we understand that heart disease, or blocking of arteries, is caused by lipoprotein particles and not by cholesterol. Cholesterol and triglycerides cannot move through the artery wall unless they are carried inside a lipoprotein particle. Lipoprotein particles serve as the vehicles that transport cholesterol in the blood™. These are the particles that can build up in a person's arteries and cause a heart attack.
http://lipidcenter.com/er_overview.php

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https://www.drperlmutter.com/brain-needs-cholesterol/

Vaccines  are  the  most  effective  strategy  for  preventinginfectious  disease  since  they  are  more  cost-effective  thantreatment,  and  reduce  morbidity  and  mortality  withoutlong-lasting  effects

https://www.drperlmutter.com/study/current-status-of-epidemiology-diagnosis-therapeutics-and-vaccines-for-novel-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/

-Mike