Bret SD
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« on: May 08, 2021, 06:24:21 AM » |
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This is a neat site to look at current moving trends in the US.. notice states run by the left occupy the bottom majority in the list while more conservative states are at the top. California is now the top exodus state.. I noticed Mississippi was near low on the list which surprised me. https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/22746/2020-Migration-Trends-U-Haul-Ranks-50-States-By-Migration-Growth/Here is a list of press releases from U-Haul, you can look at migration trends by city and more, Canadian stats are here too. https://www.uhaul.com/Archives/3/7/
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02 Standard -- Blue & White 82 Aspencade -- Red “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” Socrates
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2021, 06:53:17 AM » |
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Generally, people move for two predominate reasons, jobs and climate. Other reasons may include such things as family and cultural issues but, I couldn't prove that. You mention Mississippi, not sure why. The same things that drive folks from one location are the things drawing them to the destination locations. Again, generally jobs or financial incentives. I moved to Southern Mississippi for personal and financial reasons. Being retired, Mississippi's tax code (retirement income is not taxed), cost of living (comparatively low), housing prices are slightly lower and of course getting closer to family were significant reason we moved here. Also, property taxes are unbelievably low to other places we've lived. Those reasons are not applicable to everyone but provided the incentive for my wife and I to pick Hattiesburg. What did surprise me about this area was the high quality and quantity/availability of health care. The fact that not as many folks are moving to Mississippi or static, is quite encouraging to me. I like the pace of life down here and one of the best things is, I no longer have a snow blower and threw away that damn snow shovel.  I have a tractor with a snow blade, for some unknown reason, no one down here wants to buy it.  Edited: Prior to my retirement, (but after my military service) as I worked my up the management chain, I was offered career opportunities (jobs) on the west coast four different times. Twice in the NE, USA also. Every time, the answer was the same, no thanks. Even though the salaries offered seem great, when compared to with the current job or other opportunities, I couldn't provide a similar life style and home for my family there as where I was or wanted to go. Was told by a potential employer (when I enquired about home/acreage prices) that folks want to live out there and have to sacrifice to do it. Hmm.......... I didn't take the job(s) Rams
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Bret SD
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2021, 07:15:58 AM » |
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Generally, people move for two predominate reasons, jobs and climate. Other reasons may include such things as family and cultural issues but, I couldn't prove that. You mention Mississippi, not sure why. I moved to Southern Mississippi for personal and financial reasons. Being retired, Mississippi's tax code (retirement income is not taxed), cost of living (comparatively low), housing prices are slightly lower and of course getting closer to family. Also, property taxes are unbelievably low to other places we've lived. Those reasons are not applicable to everyone but provided the incentive for my wife and I to pick Hattiesburg. What did surprise me about this area was the high quality and quantity/availability of that health care. The fact that not as many folks are moving to Mississippi is quite encouraging to me. I like the pace of life down here and one of the best things is, I no longer have a snow blower and threw away that damn snow shovel.  I have a tractor with a snow blade, for some unknown reason, no one down here wants to buy it.  Rams I think the old paradigm of jobs and climate has been eclipsed by political oppression, people are fleeing high tax, high crime blue states in droves. Business owners are moving to a more business friendly place as well as families who can't afford housing in states like Ca where the median house costs $750,000. Ca climate is tops in the nation and few places around the world are as temperate, yet people are fleeing. Jobs are here but all one has to do is drive down to Mission Bay in San Diego, it's lined with campers and vans people are living in.. that trend is increasing yearly. Finally, take a look at the huge homeless problem in Ca, people are tired of all of it.. and it's caused by left wing politics. Me thinks the majority of migration participants are primarily political refugees. I was surprised to see Mississippi at the lower end of the list for the reasons you stated, it's a much friendlier place to live.. maybe they're afraid of hurricanes? If that were true, then all gulf and Southern states would fall into the category as well. It's a head scratcher. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2021, 07:29:59 AM » |
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Hurricanes just mean your close to an ocean environment. We really liked North Carolina, would still be there if it wasn't for family considerations. I liked Florida, wife thought it was much too bright (I think Kansas is too bright, but that's what sunglasses are for).
What I'd really like to do is get a good sized RV and start exploring North America full time.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2021, 07:53:08 AM » |
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More people working from home and likely to be for some time are figuring that if I can work from home, I should move home to where its inexpensive to live and the traffic doesn't suck.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2021, 08:14:10 AM » |
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I think the old paradigm of jobs and climate has been eclipsed by political oppression, people are fleeing high tax, high crime blue states in droves. Business owners are moving to a more business friendly place as well as families who can't afford housing in states like Ca where the median house costs $750,000. Ca climate is tops in the nation and few places around the world are as temperate, yet people are fleeing. Jobs are here but all one has to do is drive down to Mission Bay in San Diego, it's lined with campers and vans people are living in.. that trend is increasing yearly. Finally, take a look at the huge homeless problem in Ca, people are tired of all of it.. and it's caused by left wing politics. Me thinks the majority of migration participants are primarily political refugees. I was surprised to see Mississippi at the lower end of the list for the reasons you stated, it's a much friendlier place to live.. maybe they're afraid of hurricanes? If that were true, then all gulf and Southern states would fall into the category as well. It's a head scratcher.  You may be right. Maybe not. As a young Marine, I was assigned to Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station for a couple of years. The weather was nice admittedly but, I never felt "at home" with the folks out there (away from the military). That was a long time ago and it seems, when viewed from a distance, the population's attitudes have moved further left. But, as I mentioned in my original post, that is something that would keep me from moving to CA, not necessarily something that would make me move away. Can't say for sure. Taxation will always get folks attention. West Coast and the NE US are highly taxed. I'm not saying you're wrong but, I still believe jobs or career opportunities is what drives most folks to move. Corporations change locations due to state tax issues/incentives and that includes what areas have to offer such as potential employees to hire, infrastructure of the area and educational capabilities of the areas. I still believe that with an aging population, more folks will be seeking warmer climates. Edited: Did I happen to mention I have a great snow plow for sale? It would look good sitting at your place waiting for an opportunity to do it's thing for you. Would make you very popular with the neighbors when it does snow.  Rams
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2021, 08:57:19 AM » |
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All I ask is adapt to those folks already here. Your old political stuff and policies did NOT work where you left. Leave it Where you Left. We already embrace lower taxes and freedoms YOU LOST. PLEASE try to remember that. Don't like the food here? Open yer own eatery. Git used to bigger house lots and open highways unless in a metro area. But try as I may- i Doubt all I have posted!  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2021, 10:31:38 AM » |
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think the old paradigm of jobs and climate has been eclipsed by political oppression, people are fleeing high tax, high crime blue states in droves. Business owners are moving to a more business friendly place as well as families who can't afford housing in states like Ca where the median house costs $750,000. Ca climate is tops in the nation and few places around the world are as temperate, yet people are fleeing. Jobs are here but all one has to do is drive down to Mission Bay in San Diego, it's lined with campers and vans people are living in.. that trend is increasing yearly. Finally, take a look at the huge homeless problem in Ca, people are tired of all of it.. and it's caused by left wing politics. Me thinks the majority of migration participants are primarily political refugees. As mentioned, unfortunately, most seem to forget why they left. They quickly start wanting to change things to the way they were. My question is: If it was like you wanted it, why did you leave? If it is worth uprooting your family to move here, why are you trying to change here? I guess they don't understand it takes taxes to support all the programs they left behind.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2021, 11:06:27 AM » |
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Odd how I'm not the least bit surprised that, of the 50 states, Massachusetts is 47th on the list of places people are moving to.
Also not surprised that the top ten or so are generally right wing leaning, and the lower ten or so are left wing utopias. Somewhat telling.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2021, 01:16:47 PM » |
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Odd how I'm not the least bit surprised that, of the 50 states, Massachusetts is 47th on the list of places people are moving to.
Also not surprised that the top ten or so are generally right wing leaning, and the lower ten or so are left wing utopias. Somewhat telling.
Sounds like a virus to me. And no vaccine available.
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Bret SD
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2021, 07:39:37 PM » |
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Y'all should keep in mind California is primarily a red state, here we have dominion, ballot harvesting, Motor Voter, illegals voting, dead people voting...
We have it all here and people are fleeing Democrat tyranny. I have no way to prove it but I'd guess more than 80% of the people moving out are conservatives.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2021, 04:06:11 AM » |
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Actually there are so many moving to Florida its actually changing the economy. Housing prices and building all up and down the state is very high. Since housing is so expensive in other states when they sell and come here they are paying the asking price and sometimes above for properties.
Old2soon had a very valid worry since we see it in counties further south.
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Bret SD
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2021, 08:23:11 AM » |
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Actually there are so many moving to Florida its actually changing the economy. Housing prices and building all up and down the state is very high. Since housing is so expensive in other states when they sell and come here they are paying the asking price and sometimes above for properties.
Old2soon had a very valid worry since we see it in counties further south.
Yes, they have lots of equity and gladly pay lower prices in other states, they see it as a bargain.
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02 Standard -- Blue & White 82 Aspencade -- Red “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” Socrates
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