"I'm the only one professional enough in this room to carry a Glock 40"

[Bret SD]

In this video a DEA agent shoots himself while teaching a gun safety class. What I don't get is he pulled the slide back and chambered what I would assume to be a dummy round?, then he pulled the trigger with the gun pointed toward the ceiling and it clicked.
After that it looks like he may have been attempting to holster the gun and subsequently shot himself in the leg or the foot.

I really don't understand how this happened, does anybody have a clue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfONckOPyaI

[Willow]

A delayed primer.  It was intentionally done to demonstrate.

[Bret SD]

A delayed primer.  It was intentionally done to demonstrate.

Have you seen this video before?

The way he reacted it looked like he was shocked and stunned, followed by some pretty convincing limping around. I guess it would be a very good lesson, the sound alone probably scared his students.

[Serk]

He sued (And lost) the DEA over the video leaking out and embarrassing him...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/agent-loses-appeal-over-accidental-shooting-video

(And I'm assuming Willow was joking about it being intentional and a delayed primer? Willow's sense of humor can be rather dry and difficult to discern at times.)

[Bret SD]

He sued (And lost) the DEA over the video leaking out and embarrassing him...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/agent-loses-appeal-over-accidental-shooting-video

(And I'm assuming Willow was joking about it being intentional and a delayed primer? Willow's sense of humor can be rather dry and difficult to discern at times.)

Thanks Serk, I get that he really shot himself now..

 I'm still at a loss to understand how it happened. If he pulled the trigger and it clicked once, maybe it was a primer that failed on the first pull, then he accidentally squeezed the trigger again and activated the primer successfully on the second pull?

[hubcapsc]

There's a thing called a "hangfire"... I don't think it happens
with dummy rounds  ... if he had a hangfire and then
reholstered without ejecting it... ida know... I'm low on
the totem pole of gun skill...

-Mike

[Serk]

The video's very fuzzy, but it appears the slide was held open when he first presented the firearm (Which would go with him showing it to someone else to verify it was unloaded), and the "CLICK" you hear was him dropping the slide, not pulling the trigger, then he appears to have either pulled the trigger or had the trigger hang on something as he was holstering it, causing the ND...

[Bret SD]

It looks like the slide may be pulled back when he raises it up above his head, then the click sound could be from releasing the slide (about the :36 sec mark), which would make more sense. Probably then he got hung up with the trigger as he was attempting to holster it..

[hubcapsc]

The video's very fuzzy, but it appears the slide was held open when he first presented the firearm (Which would go with him showing it to someone else to verify it was unloaded), and the "CLICK" you hear was him dropping the slide, not pulling the trigger, then he appears to have either pulled the trigger or had the trigger hang on something as he was holstering it, causing the ND...

I have one of those "alienware" pocket holsters. They want you to take
the holster out to reholster, they don't want you to reholster in your pocket.
I don't want to, either...

-Mike

[Bret SD]

The video's very fuzzy, but it appears the slide was held open when he first presented the firearm (Which would go with him showing it to someone else to verify it was unloaded), and the "CLICK" you hear was him dropping the slide, not pulling the trigger, then he appears to have either pulled the trigger or had the trigger hang on something as he was holstering it, causing the ND...

I have one of those "alienware" pocket holsters. They want you to take
the holster out to reholster, they don't want you to reholster in your pocket.
I don't want to, either...

-Mike

That would certainly help, this video shows the Glock safety systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2RDitgCaD0

[Chrisj CMA]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

[Jess from VA]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

This. !!!!!

This dufus showed why that is an excellent rule.  And a universal rule.  No live ammo in classrooms.

I had one AD in my basement, all by myself, with a big chip in my nice Spanish tile floor in front of the safe (and ringing ears).  I decided NOT to fix it as a reminder of my stupidity.  It happened because I was clearing the gun, but thinking about dinner.  At least I followed the rule about pointing it in a safe direction (down, but not at my foot) when pulling the trigger.  

Months later the wife goes: Hey, what happened here (pointing at the floor)?

I don't want to talk about it.  

[Bigwolf]

The video's very fuzzy, but it appears the slide was held open when he first presented the firearm (Which would go with him showing it to someone else to verify it was unloaded), and the "CLICK" you hear was him dropping the slide, not pulling the trigger, then he appears to have either pulled the trigger or had the trigger hang on something as he was holstering it, causing the ND...

This ^^^!

  I have a seen a much clearer copy of that video and a much longer and more telling video.  IMHO, the guy got less than he deserved.  We don’t need people like that in any kind of law enforcement!  His ego was running rampant.

After he shot himself, he tried to get his hands on a rifle but the children had to be the ones to say No!  I guess the other adults in the room were too shocked to react.

[Robert]

He is so very fortunate the bullet did not hit him a 10MM can do alot of damage

[The emperor has no clothes]

He sued (And lost) the DEA over the video leaking out and embarrassing him...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/agent-loses-appeal-over-accidental-shooting-video

(And I'm assuming Willow was joking about it being intentional and a delayed primer? Willow's sense of humor can be rather dry and difficult to discern at times.)

Willow jokes ? 

[LTD]

As stupid as that guy looked it could happen to anybody.

[Bighead]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

This. !!!!!

This dufus showed why that is an excellent rule.  And a universal rule.  No live ammo in classrooms.

I had one AD in my basement, all by myself, with a big chip in my nice Spanish tile floor in front of the safe (and ringing ears).  I decided NOT to fix it as a reminder of my stupidity.  It happened because I was clearing the gun, but thinking about dinner.  At least I followed the rule about pointing it in a safe direction (down, but not at my foot) when pulling the trigger.  

Months later the wife goes: Hey, what happened here (pointing at the floor)?

I don't want to talk about it.  
Jess I think you are smart enough to not clean a loaded handgun?  I hear this about 5-6 times a year fro patients who have shot themselves. I for the life of me can’t/Don’t understand how one can even start “Cleaning “ a weapon with a round in The chamber. The first step in cleaning a firearm is to remove the magazine then clear the chamber BEFORE anything else is to be done. The then disassemble said weapon then start cleaning.

[The emperor has no clothes]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

This. !!!!!

This dufus showed why that is an excellent rule.  And a universal rule.  No live ammo in classrooms.

I had one AD in my basement, all by myself, with a big chip in my nice Spanish tile floor in front of the safe (and ringing ears).  I decided NOT to fix it as a reminder of my stupidity.  It happened because I was clearing the gun, but thinking about dinner.  At least I followed the rule about pointing it in a safe direction (down, but not at my foot) when pulling the trigger.  

Months later the wife goes: Hey, what happened here (pointing at the floor)?

I don't want to talk about it.  
Jess I think you are smart enough to not clean a loaded handgun?  I hear this about 5-6 times a year fro patients who have shot themselves. I for the life of me can’t/Don’t understand how one can even start “Cleaning “ a weapon with a round in The chamber. The first step in cleaning a firearm is to remove the magazine then clear the chamber BEFORE anything else is to be done. The then disassemble said weapon then start cleaning.

I doubt smarts is at issue here. Carelessness and over confidence maybe.

[Jess from VA]

Jess I think you are smart enough to not clean a loaded handgun?

I am.  

I wrote I was clearing it, not cleaning it.

It got carried loaded, and gets put away unloaded.  One of my safety things is that no guns in the safe are loaded (except for one particular one).  

Not that there is any excuse for an AD when clearing either.

Most military and civilian police stations even have a special clearing protocol, just for this reason.


This means they aren't going to allow (or excuse) any other explanations.

[Bret SD]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

One bad moment is all it takes, 8 years ago and after 25 years as a carpenter I had some previous minor brushes with saw blades, nothing major. While working in a tight bathroom one day doing some blocking around a toilet I made the worst decision of my career and ran a Skilsaw blade over an inch deep into my palm, severing the thumb muscles and nerves. To this day I have no feeling in the bottom portion of the thumb and sometimes drop things.

I was very stressed at the time over divorce and sleep deprived.. wish I could have a do-over. It's something I never thought would happen to me.. until it did.

[Jess from VA]

I only chopped off all but a millimeter or two of my left ring finger last joint in a chipper.  Pure dumassery (get in a hurry) too.  How much training does one need to understand a chipper will take your fingers off if you stick them in there?    

It sucked.. and took about 10 years for full sensation and function to come back.  

It still aches like a bastard in the cold though.  

[Chrisj CMA]

I only chopped off all but a millimeter or two of my left ring finger last joint in a chipper.  Pure dumassery (get in a hurry) too.  How much training does one need to understand a chipper will take your fingers off if you stick them in there?    

It sucked.. and took about 10 years for full sensation and function to come back.  

It still aches like a bastard in the cold though.  

Thanks for sharing that Jess. I know how hard it is to admit our own stupid moments attesting to the fact that we are but human and any of us can have a moment of the dumbshits.

I have learned over the years good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement

[Chrisj CMA]

There should have never been a live round allowed in that classroom. Just when you feel you are highly trained and could never have an accident like that is when one moment of bad judgement can bite you. Don’t ask how I know this.

One bad moment is all it takes, 8 years ago and after 25 years as a carpenter I had some previous minor brushes with saw blades, nothing major. While working in a tight bathroom one day doing some blocking around a toilet I made the worst decision of my career and ran a Skilsaw blade over an inch deep into my palm, severing the thumb muscles and nerves. To this day I have no feeling in the bottom portion of the thumb and sometimes drop things.

I was very stressed at the time over divorce and sleep deprived.. wish I could have a do-over. It's something I never thought would happen to me.. until it did.

I know that intense feeling of wanting that moment back to do it differently. Yep I never thought I would be the one to do stupid stuff like that. But I did. A couple times and it’s frustrating as all heck

[Grandpot]

No joking, empty guns are the most dangerous kind.  There is a hole in the floor of the police station where I worked.  It was put there by the sergeant as he was showing us his empty gun.

My neighbor shot himself in the head with an empty gun.

I'm not against guns; I carry one every day.  You just need to respect them.

[Jess from VA]

A buddy of mine runs a successful tree cutting business here in NoVA for many years.

The first time his crew pruned out my giant oaks, I was pretty impressed with his big chipper that ate 15-20 logs like candy.  Woah.

It was an old one, and he told me back when he got it, he was told it had eaten a man whole once in it's lifetime.  He said telling his crew this fact was probably the most important training lesson in feeding the chipper.

I should have listened better.  My chipper was one you pushed around in your yard.  It only ate fingers.  
 

[cookiedough]

accidents happens and am sure has happened to every single one of us whether guns or not.  Just hope we all learn from them and do not do it twice.

I had my 1st wreck/tip over with my ATV in over 15 years of driving them doing something STUPID last year.  I still think of that accident and remember what I did WRONG could have been avoided ruining my ATV trip the last day was a no go not going out when bruised and injured somewhat.  In tight spots on ATV use LOW gear and keep your darn thumb WELL AWAY from the thumb throttle when traversing uneven terrain when going downhill for your body moving forward can cause your hand/arm/thumb to MOVE FORWARD hitting the thumb throttle FULL THROTTLE in a split second the tipover was done. 

Still irks me though was an official ATV trail in a county park 'maintained' by the park ranger and after confronting him on the 4 ft wide and over 1 ft tall boulder in about a 7 foot wide ATV trail going into his park he supposedly maintains him telling me 'oh yah,  that part he is aware of and several others in 'his ' park need smaller rocks filling in those HOLES'  and all the while he is talking I am staring right at a huge mound of 3-5 inch rocks that a few dump buckets full with his small tractor right in front of us could have done years ago and all done within 1 hours worth.

I wanted to take the road route into the county park but the sign said ATV trail so I took that instead, big mistake, was NOT a very smooth trail with uneven ground all around making it sort of dangerous even before I got 100 yards in where the huge boulder was in the middle of the dug in trench ATV trail.  Once I fell into that 3 foot trench of an ATV trail I bumped the thumb throttle going right OVER that boulder into the 3 foot or more embankment tipping ATV right over onto me.   Never thought a 700lb. 2-up 800cc ATV with me near 300lbs. and over 25lbs. of rack weight could flip over ASAP like that in a split second.

[Bret SD]

A buddy of mine runs a successful tree cutting business here in NoVA for many years.

The first time his crew pruned out my giant oaks, I was pretty impressed with his big chipper that ate 15-20 logs like candy.  Woah.

It was an old one, and he told me back when he got it, he was told it had eaten a man whole once in it's lifetime.  He said telling his crew this fact was probably the most important training lesson in feeding the chipper.

I should have listened better.  My chipper was one you pushed around in your yard.  It only ate fingers. 
 

That happened here in San Diego not long a ago I think, one of the crew trimming trees got his shirtsleeve caught up while feeding the chipper and was pulled in.
What a horrible way to go.. quick.. but horrible.