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cookiedough
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« on: June 26, 2021, 03:41:46 PM »

got a few new mattresses picked out all around 900-1K in pricing all 'plush firm' meaning plushness on top yet supportive enough underneath to support 300lb. person without sinking in too far.

Anyone ever heard of 'dreamcloud' mattresses?  Got top #1 pick in 2020 might go to big box store and check them out tomorrow vs. 2 companies I picked out each mattress made in WI local called Comfort Sleep in Two Rivers WI and Symbol in Watertown WI saw locally at 2 stores today.

One dilema:  These new mattresses are so tall nowadays 14-15 inches vs. mine 12 inches now about 15 years old (std. back then) that a low profile 5 inch boxframe is too tall off the ground now.  I have a bedframe with wooden slats underneath spaced about 2 inches apart with good wood support in middle of queen bed and IMO will not be supportive enough for new heavier mattresses (plus my weight).  Anyone ever heard of bunkyboards?  about 100 bucks and raise frame up 1 1/2 inches would help some for sure vs. too low now our other 14 inch newer mattress just on the wood slates on our bedframe.  

Ideally would like 2 to 3 inch rise but just priced out LUMBER and WOW,  a 4x8 sheet of plywood is near 50 bucks and technically need to buy 2 of them cut to fit one need 60x80 plus  about five 2x4's to screw the plywood down to raise up mattress ideally a good 2 1/2 inches being near ideal height.

One mattress store today had a remote control adjustable boxframe underneath mattress to adjust the mattress up or down as needed to different parts of body, pretty neat and would help some with my snoring am sure lifting head upward more while sleeping.  It even vibrated, sorta odd made too much noise for me - LOL    Cost was ONLY 1 grand which is the price of the darn mattress alone, thought that a bit much.  I could see it come in handy though if the electronic lifting mechanisms actually lasted 20-30 years of use for as I get older,  am sure raising certain parts of the mattress up/down, etc. would be best as we age, agree?

they also sell either thru amazon.com or am sure some mattress stores wood slates that go vertical tied together with cloth wrap all around to put OVER my horizontal wood slates I have now would raise upward though ONLY 3/4 inch which is NOT much still too low for me (would work though just harder to get out of bed if injured or as I age), would prefer 2 to 3 inch raise being ideal not sure 3/4 inch higher would do much as compared to what I tested our other 14 inch mattress just on our wood slates bedframe now.   

tomorrow will go to another furniture store who says they have bunkyboards being 1 1/2 inch tall wrapped in cloth and see how sturdy/far apart the boards are inside the cloth to put OVER our wood slates we have now in our bedframe.  Both around 100 bucks either for wood slates 3/4 inch tall or bunkyboard 1 1/2 inch tall for a new queen mattress.

Is very odd though got from 2 different mattress stores different responses on mattress warranty from SAME mfg. of mattress they sell.  One store told me MUST buy a new boxframe (200 bucks) under the new mattress in order for the same mfg. to honor the 10 year warranty if needed.  The other store today said NOPE can use either new wood slates or just a piece of plywood down under the new mattress and  10 year warranty for SAME mattress company is fine.  I wonder who is lying?   both say though that our 15 year old COIL sprung boxframe we have now would VOID the warranty since the new innerspring mattresses will wear quicker with old school coil sprung inside (that flex down with weight) need a FIRM platform under the new mattresses made now for 10 year warranty to be honored.    So, need something underneath the new mattress since our spaced too far apart say 3 inches slats will not be supportive enough for new mattress even with good middle support in our bedframe plus as is now will sit 2-3 inches too low to get out of bed easier.    I prefer it as is now going down to carpet with feet 1-2 inches sitting on the bed (really too high off ground sitting on bed)  vs. going up 3-4 inches too much lowness with no boxframe of some sort underneath.  NO happy medium.  They need to make a low profile boxframe being 2-3 inches vs. standard  low profile 5 inches nowadays.
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da prez
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2021, 04:15:24 PM »

We bought a sleep number. A lot more than a grand. Some mattress stores have a time trial. Check for a return policy and the fine print.     

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2021, 04:20:14 PM »

We bought a sleep number. A lot more than a grand. Some mattress stores have a time trial. Check for a return policy and the fine print.     

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2021, 04:55:31 PM »

got a bed in a box  king sized

 tuft and needle   like it  it replaced our water bed. 650 on sale

https://www.tuftandneedle.com/?&msclkid=adcbc88b11a61691058ea85caf93b374&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=B%20BR%20-Brand-Search%20-%20New%20-%202021&utm_term=Tuft%20and%20Needle%20promo%20code&utm_content=Tuft%20%26%20Needle%20-%20Promo%20Code&gclid=adcbc88b11a61691058ea85caf93b374&gclsrc=3p.ds
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2021, 05:06:52 PM »

Lucid foam here.
Love them!
Great for a bad back.
Even have them in my semi truck.
Just ordered 3 for my new pad.
King size $300 each.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2021, 06:39:49 PM »

I just replaced my 20yo King mattress last year.  

It is just a good quality memory foam from a national outlet.  I sleep great on these, and will not spend multiple thousands on a high tech bed.  Though mine was over a $K.

You go to a store in decently clean clothing, take off your shoes, and try them out (one by one).

I got a medium firmness, I could never take hard mattresses.

Memory foam holds heat (bad in summer, but never an issue in winter, fall or spring for me in VA), and mine was a version of foam designed to minimize memory foam heat more than any other in their inventory.  Though I will say, with memory foam, I never have much bedding on top of me, year round (this is the other key to memory foam heat buildup).  I am a human furnace and hate a hot bed (which was a long lasting marital issue, before I fired her).

Also with memory foam, the softer it is, the more you sink, the hotter the (foam) bed gets.  So if you get foam, understand that the harder it is, the cooler it will be.  Thus my medium hard-soft new one (5 or 6 of 10).  So don't get too soft, if heat is an issue for you.

I told them my (two single) king box frame(s) were perfectly good, and I only wanted to pay for a mattress.  They told me I paid 100% of the price for the mattress alone, and I got the box frames free, so I took the new box frames, and they carted the old frames and mattress away.

Decades ago, I decided I liked a lower bed, so I took the steel frame and put it my storage (no fancy waste-of-money bed furniture for me; where you bang your hands and feet on headboards and footboards).  You lose the ability to store things under the bed, but I like a lower bed, esp when I get up to pee at night.  Plus, you no longer have to worry about dust bunnies under a bed for cleanup.  And I think you get better support from a box spring on the floor than on a frame only supported on the edges (and better mattress longevity too).  If you get rid of the frame, a bit taller box spring will be no issue at all.

What I didn't like, but discovered was now standard, was that these new mattresses can be turned but not flipped.  I routinely turned and flipped my old mattress and that's why it lasted 20 years.  But now top and bottom is not interchangeable.  

(Flipping a king mattress alone was always a challenge in my small bedroom.  It was more of a wrestling match than a household chore, and sometimes it threw me and I lost and had to start over.   Grin)

When asked why I stayed with a king after I became single, the answer was that I already had a linen closet full of good king bedding, and no queen or double bedding at all.  I'm cheap.  And the king was not much more expensive anyway.  Now on the occasion it does heat up, I just move over 20 inches and it's cool again.

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cookiedough
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2021, 07:57:37 PM »

yah,  heard about those bed in a box deals most say they once set out a day after being rolled up in a box to be good quality, but if spending that kind of dough gotta try them out before buying.  Yah,  those 2-3K beds are nice, but if every say 10 years suppose to replace the mattress, then those 1 grand or back then less mattresses have worked for me the past 30 years or so each lasting about 15 years each.

yah,  no mattresses of any decent quality I have heard of are flippable anymore but they say should spin them around every 2-3 months or more but doubt many do that more like 1-2x's per year or so.

The quality is better made nowadays for comfort I feel vs. even 10 years ago.  Wife's 2 year old pillowtop is nice been sleeping on that due to my hip issues and has helped some vs. my old bedding so time to replace the 15 year old one. Only thing I do not like about the 'plush firm' pillowtop is me being heavier do sink in a tad bit too much but is better than being too firm that is for sure with bad hips, has helped some I think.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2021, 04:01:19 AM »

Just don't let my wife go to get a new bed with you. She went with her girlfriends and $7900. later we, errr she, had a new one delivered.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2021, 06:07:50 AM »

We just replaced a Certa I Comfort memory foam mattress. Had the cooling gel and was north of $1k. Memory foam is hot, period. Would not recommend one but, to each his own.
Looked at Sleep Number beds. Nice but the prices are ridiculous. Kirby sweepers are nice too. Not spending $3k to $10k on a bed.
We are very happy with our new Stearns & Foster innerspring mattress and box springs. Model name I dont recall. We like a firm mattress. $1500.
Good luck! The industry is set up so the consumer cant compare prices.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2021, 08:19:25 AM »

Whaddya wanna pay?  The sky is the limit!

Veeeeeeery comfy, 10 year warranty, perfect blend of support and softness -- around five Benjamins for a King or Cali King.  

Understandably sold out, but they usually have more in stock before long.

Big bang for the buck.

https://www.wayfair.com/bed-bath/pdp/wayfair-sleep-14-firm-hybrid-mattress-wfsl1039.html?piid=20292871

Read the reviews.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2021, 08:34:13 AM »

Foam is just too darn hot if you are hot natured.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2021, 10:09:30 AM »

Years ago, I got a foam topper for a conventional mattress, and it could only be used in winter.  Stupid hot.

But 20 years later (last year) my new memory foam mattress is nowhere near as bad.  It was advertised as their best low-heat foam (low heat, not no heat).  It does bother me in summers, in my upstairs bedroom. I sleep under a sheet or two only, and I run a small AC window unit in that room with doors closed every night in summer (and set the central AC up when I go to bed).  But now with the design of my house, I'd probably use that window unit even with a non foam mattress, it gets hot up there in summers.  

I'd have to run the central AC down to 60 for the whole house to get that one room tolerable in summer (one anemic duct only).

I should make my finished basement rec room my bedroom, because it's nearly 20 degrees cooler down there in summer, but that is my main living space, so no.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2021, 07:44:30 PM »

No, haven’t read this but…..I don’t think DDT could write a post this long about a mattress!  2funny
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2021, 09:29:50 PM »

went to big box store today not expecting to find anything better.  Lo and behold had the EXACT same mattress just under their own branded name from SAME company in Two Rivers WI for around 150 less than 2 other furniture stores I went to, plus had it in stock.  So, charged it today but me being not the brightest apple in the bunch,  did NOT bring my truck up since had in stock to take home today. 

NOW,  is suppose to rain next 3 days sounds like at 5-7 p.m. (will have to check radar) and hopefully NO POP UP thunder showers since no topper on truck.  I would not mind a few sprinkles since mattress and boxframe is wrapped in plastic, but a downpour and if any holes in the plastic might dampen the new mattress not good even if I put a plastic tarp wrapped around the plastic over mattress?  Lately we have had a few POP UP thundershowers drenching us much needed like 1 inch in 1  hour or so.

The sales guy said they higher volume sales so can get a better price from mfg. vs. say a smaller furniture store can, makes sense.  750 vs. say 900 EXACT same mattress pays for the 150 dollar boxframe I need as well.  Just wish I brought my truck up 1 hour away and would be sleeping better next few days on my old tired hips.  Sounds like pop up hit or miss showers next 3 days between 5-8 p.m. needing a 3 hour window of NO rain to pickup.  Lately can be downpouring 10 minutes away and not a drop of rain in other nearby spots and going 1 hour away can see me hitting one of those downpours on the way home, maybe?

Only thing did not like is NO free delivery and NO haul away of old without charging 100 bucks vs. the 2 smaller places tad bit closer was free delivery offering better customer service that way.  But for 10 bucks gas can run up there with the truck hopefully this week.   I called them back today when got home at 4:30 p.m. with car and asked them since open until 6 p.m. today NO RAIN if can run up today still and pickup be there by 5:30 p.m. easily before 6 p.m. close with truck.  They said NO since 2 items in their warehouse and the warehouse guys close at 5 p.m..  I could have pushed them a tad saying ONLY takes 10 minutes for warehouse to find mattress/boxframe having 30 minutes to do and leave in showroom for me to pickup before 6 p.m close but did not, but probably should have if they wanted a sale?   I overheard the sales guy talking to the head honcho on the phone and the head honcho overheard say to sales guy TOO BAD is NOT enough time today for warehouse to get ready, come back later another day. 

sales guy also showed me a FOLD UP IN BIG BOX  DREAMCLOUD mattress and was pretty comfy as well for 900 bucks plush firm something like OSS got in a BOX am guessing?
https://www.dreamcloudsleep.com/mattress

Was comfy but not as comfy as what I am getting I think even though they have a lifetime warranty vs. 10 years on all others.   I asked what is the criteria and sales guy said over 1.75 inch sag in fabric will replace or frame or springs broke then get FREE new mattress even 25-50 years later.  But, who is to say that company will be in business say 15 years from now so what good is a lifetime warranty and not like I will probably live much past 20 years anyways or so might get ONE FREE mattress by then on them?   2funny   Plus, gee whiz a near 2 inch sag in mattress one would think would not happen even after 15 years if good quality, maybe in 20-25 years though?

Wife has from same Two Rivers WI mfg. a pillowtop design (no nano coils) very similar near identical internals  is softer on top for my bad hips but sink down in too much IMO being 130 lbs. heavier than her, especially if I sleep on my BIG GUT.  The one I am getting is not a pillowtop but has small 1700 NANO coils on top instead for a plush yet firmer support still sink in a tad but not as much not being a pillowtop.  Below the pillowtop design though is near identical down below just slightly firmer.

If I had an extra 1 grand to blow though I can see the fully adjustable frame with remote to raise head or legs up/down to help me sleep or alleviate pain or help breath as I get older but not there yet anyways.  Most electronics sales guy said had 5 year warranty is all though so can see them going bad anyways in mechanicals in 10 years or so, maybe will get next time in 15 more years, will see? 

sure hope as others say the memory foam is NOT HOT in the summer but as some say,  the memory foam used nowadays is not as hot as older designed memory foam sounds like plus most all mattresses we looked at have some memory foam in them.    this mattress is suppose to have AIR POCKETS built in to reduce heat or so they say?

I slept in my old 15 year old WAY TOO FIRM mattress last night and man oh man,  I need a new mattress since past 1 week have slept peacefully not tossing or turning or sore on my wife's 2 year old pillowtop mattress.  That is a true sign I married UP: the misses giving up her comfort sleeping so I can sleep better, even if for only 1 week. cooldude   She no longer sleeps in same bed past few years since both kids have moved onto college freeing up a bedroom,  since I SNORE a LOT, or so she says.  She videotaped me a few times and I said NOT ME (LOL), but is LOUD much to my surprise.   :'(   



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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2021, 10:43:28 PM »

No, haven’t read this but…..I don’t think DDT could write a post this long about a mattress!  2funny

He's selling mattresses..lmfao
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