Humiliation ?

[The emperor has no clothes]

It was mentioned in a post. It got me thinking. Can a person humiliate another person ? It seems to me that the feeling of humiliation would come from within.

[Bret SD]

It was mentioned in a post. It got me thinking. Can a person humiliate another person ? It seems to me that the feeling of humiliation would come from within.

"attempted"

[J.Mencalice]

It was mentioned in a post. It got me thinking. Can a person humiliate another person ? It seems to me that the feeling of humiliation would come from within.

There is a boatload of interpretation regarding "humiliation" if one opens the Wikipedia site. Numerous opinions of what it is and how it is created; all the way from verbal insinuation to burning at the stake.   Heavy.
To quote Crash Davis (Bull Durham): "We're dealing with a lot of sh!t here."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humiliation

I do agree that most emotions are internally created and accepted by said person; some can be transferred from one person to another, but ultimately it is a matter of validation by that individual.

[..]

Is it like having ones "feeeeeelings" hurt?

[Bret SD]

Let's be honest here, you both are left-wingers from what you post and I don't think you like me because I'm not like you. The difference between you and I is that I don't feel a need for revenge or whatever it is that you both are up to. I'm more of a live-and-let-live guy, and I don't think either of you are like that at all.

So save the pious innuendo for someone else please, I don't really need it.. I have a new German Shepherd puppy and I'm overall the pretty happy guy.

Now.. I'm going to get back to celebrating no puppy accidents this morning 

[Robert]

Well yes, according to the moderators of this board who have erased more posts than can be mentioned, its possible.  

[Serk]

hu·mil·i·a·tion
/(h)yo͞oˌmilēˈāSH(ə)n/

noun

the action of humiliating someone or the state of being humiliated.
"they suffered the humiliation of losing in the opening round"


Based on this, yes, humiliation is generally thought of as being inflicted on another, not something that comes from within, per se.

[Bret SD]

"One definition of humiliation is "to lower the pride of." Humility, on the other hand, is defined as "humbleness of mind." We can move from the humiliation of having our pride lowered to humility when we recognize our shortcomings and are willing to face our situation again with pure motives. Our relationships at work and at home will benefit when we are truly humble as Christ was humble."

Humility is something to aspire to, seeking to humiliate suggests a deficit in humility.

I am imperfect, and aspire to be humble

[Willow]

Several of the definitions of humiliate reference lowering one's pride.  This would involve showing one that he is not what he has presented to be.

A more complete definition offered by Merriam-Webster is "to reduce (someone) to a lower position in one's own eyes or others' eyes : to make (someone) ashamed or embarrassed : mortify"

When we most often refer to humiliation it is generally the lowering of respect of image in others' eyes.  That may be recognized within oneself but it occurs primarily within and among others outside of oneself.

[J.Mencalice]

Actually, I played mostly on the right wing, being a natural, right-handed shot, and a little defense, also on the right side during my youthful, illustrious career on frozen rinks (shoot, we all thought we were Guy Lafleur at the Forum). 

[klb]

My humiliation story.
Date-summer 1972.
Place-Connie Maxwell Baptist Children's Home.
Location-Greenwood South Carolina.
Went to church on Campus Sunday Morning.
Has a bad case of gas.
Sitting on the wooden pew I felt one brewing.
I knew the ramifications of letting one rip so
I strained will all the might a 8 year old could
muster to hold it in. Hindsight being 20/20 I
should have just relaxed and let it happen I
may have gotten by with just a silent one but
with all the straining I was doing trying to prevent
it it must have been like when you pucker to
whistle. The high pitched sound that came out
and echoed off that wooden pew was tremendous.
Making it worse it was during a silent prayer.
My cottage parents Mr. and Mrs. Parsons and the
rest of the congregation looked dead at me.
I was Humiliated as I could be. I got the whipping
of a lifetime when we got back to the cottage.
The whole time trying to make my point that I
couldn't help it. I hope this very true story is
acceptable on here but that was probably the
most Humiliating thing that has happened to me
to date because as I grew older I just didn't care
as much. Sometimes when I let one rip that is the
first thing that comes to my mind.

[Oss]

One can say  that in a contest one side was humiliated by a loss, either the way it happened or just because it happened as an objective score or result  Such as the Falcons losing to the Pats in the Super Bowl one year.  However I won a big prize in a pool based on half time score so ......

But as a poster pointed out, one "feels humiliated" because of the self awareness or pride that on reflection was unwarranted in the instance

I feel humble much more often than I have ever felt humiliated  Perhaps from my upbringing.  Never had a klb moment yet, thank goodness.

Regrets are different but self reflection can effect future behavior.  One of my biggest regrets was as a 10 yr old I did not stop a fight between two groups of friends.  I could not choose.  I should have just stepped in and got in the face of both of them even though I was a runt, small and skinny

Perhaps that is more a reflection on my state of mind.   The Lord gave us two eyes and two ears and one mouth.

Remembering that before speaking IMHO goes very far in avoiding humiliation and is a relflection on one's humility in my opinion and its worth what you paid for it

[Jess from VA]

There's different kinds of humiliation.  And you can do it to yourself or someone else can do it to you.

Perhaps you start with embarrassment, and then it progresses to humiliation when others see your embarrasment.

I just saw this on TV and it made me think of this thread.  A guy named Ken Murray took home movies of Hollywood and actors and studios and his family for 30 years, and in the 60's published some of his home movie compilations. 

This from 1965.  Go to 5:00 minutes and start watching his 7yo son get sung to by a girl on a stage.  It's hilarious (and humiliating).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyoXmpT7zvA

[3fan4life]

My humiliation story.
Date-summer 1972.
Place-Connie Maxwell Baptist Children's Home.
Location-Greenwood South Carolina.
Went to church on Campus Sunday Morning.
Has a bad case of gas.
Sitting on the wooden pew I felt one brewing.
I knew the ramifications of letting one rip so
I strained will all the might a 8 year old could
muster to hold it in. Hindsight being 20/20 I
should have just relaxed and let it happen I
may have gotten by with just a silent one but
with all the straining I was doing trying to prevent
it it must have been like when you pucker to
whistle. The high pitched sound that came out
and echoed off that wooden pew was tremendous.
Making it worse it was during a silent prayer.
My cottage parents Mr. and Mrs. Parsons and the
rest of the congregation looked dead at me.
I was Humiliated as I could be. I got the whipping
of a lifetime when we got back to the cottage.
The whole time trying to make my point that I
couldn't help it. I hope this very true story is
acceptable on here but that was probably the
most Humiliating thing that has happened to me
to date because as I grew older I just didn't care
as much. Sometimes when I let one rip that is the
first thing that comes to my mind.

One of my Dad's favorite sayings was: "That'll go over like a fart in church".

Now I don't have to just imagine how that would be. 

[Jess from VA]

I was always a talker, and had no problem with groups and classrooms (even up front).

In 7th grade, I ran for student council.  I was only mildly nervous and knew my few lines of campaigning speech, but when I got up to the podium out in front of the entire student body the stage fright fear hit me like a hammer, and my knees shook and I could hardly speak.  I mumbled a few lines and walked off, humiliated.

Hey, great speech Jess.       (I didn't get elected either)

You may get to practice public speaking in front of a classroom, but there is very little practice to be had in front of 500 or more humanoids.  And standing in a classroom or hearing room is not the same thing as taking center stage at a podium.  I still remember my speech teacher telling us a podium was for holding your speech notes, not for holding on to and clenching all the muscles of your upper body into a knot.

Even in a crowded courtroom, counsel sit (and stand) at a bench inside the bar with only a few people in front of him.  The crowd is behind him.  

[Bret SD]

My humiliation story.
Date-summer 1972.
Place-Connie Maxwell Baptist Children's Home.
Location-Greenwood South Carolina.
Went to church on Campus Sunday Morning.
Has a bad case of gas.
Sitting on the wooden pew I felt one brewing.
I knew the ramifications of letting one rip so
I strained will all the might a 8 year old could
muster to hold it in. Hindsight being 20/20 I
should have just relaxed and let it happen I
may have gotten by with just a silent one but
with all the straining I was doing trying to prevent
it it must have been like when you pucker to
whistle. The high pitched sound that came out
and echoed off that wooden pew was tremendous.
Making it worse it was during a silent prayer.
My cottage parents Mr. and Mrs. Parsons and the
rest of the congregation looked dead at me.
I was Humiliated as I could be. I got the whipping
of a lifetime when we got back to the cottage.
The whole time trying to make my point that I
couldn't help it. I hope this very true story is
acceptable on here but that was probably the
most Humiliating thing that has happened to me
to date because as I grew older I just didn't care
as much. Sometimes when I let one rip that is the
first thing that comes to my mind.

I can't believe you got whipped for farting, it's a natural act and you tried not to do it..

When I was in kindergarten my I pooped my drawers walking home from school cuz I couldn't hold it, my grandma wrote a note for me to give to my teacher saying I pooped my pants.. I threw it into the ditch alongside the railroad track on the way to school 

The next time I had to poop it was in the weeds between the two sets of tracks