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Savago
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« on: July 01, 2021, 01:31:01 PM »

Interesting website, it lists the ownership numbers (i.e. guns / population) not the absolute numbers (i.e. a State with a bigger population may have more guns in total than another State with smaller population):
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

California is at 28.3%, Texas is at 45.7% (I'm a bit surprised, expected a bigger percentage of Texans to have guns) and Florida is at 35.3% (also lower than I thought).

The leading States are:
- Montana (66.30%)
- Wyoming (66.20%)
- Alaska (64.50%)
- Idaho (60.10%)

My guess is that is probably related with the wilderness and hunting culture.
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I knew that things were bad in MA and NJ (both at 14.7%) and NY (19.9%), but those numbers are extremely low. I guess the 2nd amendment is totally eroded there, probably beyond the point of no return.
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Savago
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2021, 01:34:40 PM »

In related news, politicians are busy at work in San Jose (CA) where they just passed a tax/insurance requirement to be allowed to keep guns:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/01/san-joses-plan-to-be-the-first-u-s-city-to-require-firearm-owners-pay-for-gun-violence-answers-for-all-your-questions/?amp

Keep in mind that we already pay sales taxes, income taxes and property taxes, CA DOJ background check fees whenever we buy ammo and have to live with the abusive assault rifles laws and the California gun roster.

I guess the plan is to make it too expensive and complicated to legally own guns in California.

I thought it was illegal the government to require the payment of a fee to exercise a constitutional right. Is not that different from having a fee to be able to vote if you think about it.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 01:42:51 PM »

I thought it was illegal the government to require the payment of a fee to exercise a constitutional right. Is not that different from having a fee to be able to vote if you think about it.

I've long been saying whatever is required to purchase and carry a full auto Uzi should be the same requirements as are in place to vote.

Whatever's good for one should be good for the other.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2021, 01:50:41 PM »

Quote from the second link: "Under the ordinance, officers who encounter a gun owner without insurance or proof of payment will be authorized to confiscate the weapon. The gun owner may also be required to pay a fee for failing to abide."

So... gun grabbing? Angry

I guess I won't be able to ever drive through SJ carrying any gun on my way to the range.

Another pearl: "The proposed ordinance already makes several exemptions, including for sworn law enforcement, retired or reserve police officers and holders of concealed weapon permits."

So... it creates 2 categories of people: privileged and.... 'deplorables'?

Because you simply can't have a CCW in Santa Clara county unless you donate money to the Sheriff (allegedly).
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2021, 02:16:52 PM »

I thought the Assault rifle ban for California was overturned in court ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 02:18:02 PM »

I'm also expecting those SJ laws to get overturned in court as well...
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Savago
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2021, 02:21:59 PM »

I thought the Assault rifle ban for California was overturned in court ?

Cali's AG got a stay on Benavides decision.
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/california-files-reply-brief-urging-stay-of-miller-assault-weapon-ban-injunction-22-states-file-brief

I guess the case will have to make it to the SCOTUS.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2021, 02:29:29 PM »

I think Texas is lower because of the influx of non Texans from liberal states. Florida is lower than you’d think because of south Florida and all the immigrants down there. I can tell you up here in the panhandle it would be high nineties for sure
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2021, 02:47:55 PM »

      Fer you res-er subjects of ca-"they" do it cua "thry've" ALWAYS done it and more importantly "they" git away with this chit. And you Thought chi town had dirty politics!  Evil "they"-Any political type that do not like or appreciate private weapon ownership this chit will soon be in a city near US-legal gun owning Patriots. We can NOT aloow these-yer description here-to continue on with "their" agenda(s)! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2021, 03:37:35 PM »

Oh look; Massachusetts is last. Not a shock. I'm rarely shocked by anything of this nature anymore, though.

That said, my house isn't a good one to test that theory.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2021, 05:00:09 PM »

Gun ownership as a percentage of population may be an ambiguous and possibly almost meaningless statistic.  In Serk's family of six how many are listed as owning a  (or more) gun?  Even if three are listed as gun owners that's only fifty percent.  I'm not sure how meaningful that is.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2021, 08:40:03 PM »

I think Texas is lower because of the influx of non Texans from liberal states. Florida is lower than you’d think because of south Florida and all the immigrants down there. I can tell you up here in the panhandle it would be high nineties for sure

but TX has the most registered guns.   All thanks to SERK ......   2funny
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2021, 08:41:54 PM »

I think Texas is lower because of the influx of non Texans from liberal states. Florida is lower than you’d think because of south Florida and all the immigrants down there. I can tell you up here in the panhandle it would be high nineties for sure

but TX has the most registered guns.   All thanks to SERK ......   2funny

Registered guns?!?!?! Nope.... The only REGISTERED guns in The Republic are NFA items like machine guns, suppressors, sawed off shutguns etc.... Anything "normal" isn't "Reigstered" in any "free" or even semi free state....

The only REGISTERED "guns" I own are my 1/2 dozen or so suppressors.....
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2021, 08:50:25 PM »

I think Texas is lower because of the influx of non Texans from liberal states. Florida is lower than you’d think because of south Florida and all the immigrants down there. I can tell you up here in the panhandle it would be high nineties for sure

but TX has the most registered guns.   All thanks to SERK ......   2funny

Registered guns?!?!?! Nope.... The only REGISTERED guns in The Republic are NFA items like machine guns, suppressors, sawed off shutguns etc.... Anything "normal" isn't "Reigstered" in any "free" or even semi free state....

The only REGISTERED "guns" I own are my 1/2 dozen or so suppressors.....

Yeah, the numbers on that website are highly suspect if they're only counting registered guns.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2021, 01:19:24 AM »

Most lifetime gun owners have done the best job they can to own lawfully purchased guns with no records or paper trail of any kind.  They are called used guns (purchase, trade, inheritance, or found at bottom of lake).

Any attempt at quantifying actual firearm ownership is no more than guesswork and estimation, and only from new sale background checks.  Which is as it should be.

The San Jose tax is unconstitutional infringement, but even without a court case, what the city fathers want to pass is likely a far cry from what the city police are willing to enforce.  (Yeah, screw that!)

Some day, some where, some how idiot-moron politicians should realize that gun laws that only affect the law abiding are a big waste of time and money (and largely unconstitutional).  

Go after criminal possession and use of firearms with zealous police enforcement, zealous prosecution, and zealous sentencing.  Leave law abiding gun owners alone.  

How hard is this to understand?   .....the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

If you don't like guns, don't get any.

Want mine?  Come and take them.   
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2021, 06:27:06 AM »

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Go after criminal possession and use of firearms with zealous police enforcement, zealous prosecution, and zealous sentencing.  Leave law abiding gun owners alone. 

How hard is this to understand?

This would be common sense if reducing gun violence was the goal. It is not the goal. The goal is disarming the American people. It always has been since the term “gun control “ was created.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2021, 06:41:30 AM »

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Go after criminal possession and use of firearms with zealous police enforcement, zealous prosecution, and zealous sentencing.  Leave law abiding gun owners alone. 

How hard is this to understand?

This would be common sense if reducing gun violence was the goal. It is not the goal. The goal is disarming the American people. It always has been since the term “gun control “ was created.

To hear the politicians tell it - GUN VIOLENCE is the reason they give for these draconian laws.  Anybody else's BS detectors pegging on that one ?
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2021, 07:05:06 AM »

I see that OR is 50.80% with 61K registered.  Interesting.  I know that there is not data on guns that I may or may not own.  Definitely don't have any registered, that is if I had any.

Didn't read the whole site, how did they determine the date, where did it come from?
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2021, 08:40:47 AM »

It used to be you could go into a coast to coast hardware store and buy a wwII rifle for $35 no registration required.  I wonder how many of those are still around.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2021, 08:52:41 AM »

It used to be you could go into a coast to coast hardware store and buy a wwII rifle for $35 no registration required.  I wonder how many of those are still around.

https://shopcoast2coasthardware.com/

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2021, 06:32:14 AM »

Hmmm, 19.9 % in NYS ! ? 

As liberal as the larger NYS cities  are, I would have thought there would be more guns here than that. Almost everyone I know has a gun or 2 or 30. But, I don't live in one of the liberal areas.

The thing that keeps NYS as liberal as it seems to be is/are the larger cities. The rural farmlands are conservative and I hope they stay that way. I still like upstate NY because of its beauty and the people.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2021, 07:16:33 AM »

In the states with restrictive gun laws,  Did the count the weapons the "gangs" have?   With the number of shootings in these states recently, seems there must be a pretty high number of guns there?
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2021, 11:26:22 AM »

In the states with restrictive gun laws,  Did the count the weapons the "gangs" have?   With the number of shootings in these states recently, seems there must be a pretty high number of guns there?





Yep, good point.

Those figures must be legally owned firearms. It wouldn't surprise me if the illegal numbers are close to the legal ones.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2021, 03:20:02 PM »

I took that chart and dumped it into a spread sheet. it shows a total of 5, 155, 577 "registered" guns in the USA.

I looked up "How many concealed carry permits are issues in the USA, and found this site:
https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/

They show 17,251,354 active CCW permits. I know here in NC permit requests skyrocketed in 2020 and 2021. They are backed up over 6 months processing the new permits. Those waiting to get a permit would not be included in the 17 million.

So I searched for "How many guns are in the USA." I found this web site:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-many-guns-are-there-in-the-us-a-lot-more-than-you-think/

They make a pretty good case for somewhere between 412 and 660 million!

“Law-abiding gun owners have over 600 million guns… and 25 trillion rounds of ammo. If we were a problem, you’d know it!”
 It makes me feel all warm a fuzz inside  cooldude
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2021, 04:03:57 PM »

I took that chart and dumped it into a spread sheet. it shows a total of 5, 155, 577 "registered" guns in the USA.

I looked up "How many concealed carry permits are issues in the USA, and found this site:
https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/

They show 17,251,354 active CCW permits. I know here in NC permit requests skyrocketed in 2020 and 2021. They are backed up over 6 months processing the new permits. Those waiting to get a permit would not be included in the 17 million.

So I searched for "How many guns are in the USA." I found this web site:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-many-guns-are-there-in-the-us-a-lot-more-than-you-think/

They make a pretty good case for somewhere between 412 and 660 million!

“Law-abiding gun owners have over 600 million guns… and 25 trillion rounds of ammo. If we were a problem, you’d know it!”
 It makes me feel all warm a fuzz inside  cooldude


Great information and analysis.   cooldude
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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2021, 04:07:02 PM »

I took that chart and dumped it into a spread sheet. it shows a total of 5, 155, 577 "registered" guns in the USA.

I looked up "How many concealed carry permits are issues in the USA, and found this site:
https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/

They show 17,251,354 active CCW permits. I know here in NC permit requests skyrocketed in 2020 and 2021. They are backed up over 6 months processing the new permits. Those waiting to get a permit would not be included in the 17 million.

So I searched for "How many guns are in the USA." I found this web site:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-many-guns-are-there-in-the-us-a-lot-more-than-you-think/

They make a pretty good case for somewhere between 412 and 660 million!

“Law-abiding gun owners have over 600 million guns… and 25 trillion rounds of ammo. If we were a problem, you’d know it!”
 It makes me feel all warm a fuzz inside  cooldude

Yeah the stats posted by the OP only counts Registered Firearms.  Who in there correct mind would register any Firearm? And the stat of 17 million CC permits I will bet anyone who has a CCW HAS anywhere between 20-30 said firearms.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2021, 05:06:43 PM »

Yep, I wouldn't register any guns I didn't have to. But,When you get a pistol permit then they kinda have be registered. Its hard to get a pistol around without registering it.
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2021, 05:35:07 PM »

As of January 1, 2019, seven states and the District of Columbia required individuals to register their ownership of certain firearms with local law enforcement agencies.

And I say to them, KMA.   moon

Now the statistic I'd like to see is how many felons (or unconvicted criminals) register their guns?

Now in some jurisdictions, if your felony wasn't violent, and you petition a court, you may get your firearm rights restored.  But those weren't the felons I had in mind.   
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2021, 06:14:55 PM »

Yep, I wouldn't register any guns I didn't have to. But,When you get a pistol permit then they kinda have be registered. Its hard to get a pistol around without registering it.
Depends on where you live angel
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