do your own oil changes

[cookiedough]

man I HATE oil changes done at dealerships.  Did my 1st oil change after getting new engine put in by Hyundai dealership.  They put on the new oil drain plug with crush washer so tight a normal socket set wrench, both hands, my entire body weight would not budge it loose.  I had to get my longer heavier duty torque wrench 17mm socket, both hands, all my force to snap it loose denting up each of the new corners on the new oil drain plug.  It was on so fricking tight the aluminum crush washer was dented in onto the threads of the oil drain plug that I could not get it off with my hands had to use vice grips on crush washer and 17mm socket on drain bolt to back it off that way lightly taking some threads off the bolt.

OH yah,  the oil filter was on so loose I could take off with my hands vs. normally most folks I know tighten by hand then 1/2 to 3/4 more turn with wrench snug but never overtightening as other dealers in the past have done as well.

Plus, the plastic snap on oil cover over drain bolt area one clip is partially broken off and was not like that prior to replacing engine past 80k miles am requesting dealer to get me one for free since not my fault. 

do not even get me started on Hyundai called in today originally said 6 to 8 weeks for rental reimbursement 988 bucks now they backlogged told me they have had all the info. they need since May but will be 120 days total from then NOT 60 days as normally promised.  I told them that is not acceptable to wait 4 months to cut a check, can see 2 months, but not 4 months even if they have already had to replace 1 million faulty engines.    I was o.k. at 60 days but what company would allow NON payment for something for 120 days old?  I know mistakes happen and stuff gets lost from time to time backlogging payment, but this was not the case they had all the necessary paperwork to them since early May just still being reviewed.  I say BS on that.  Takes 5 minutes to see they have all the paperwork and another 5 minutes to cut one check even if they have to do 1 million of them they still do not take long to process.

[Bighead]

Time to buy something other ghan Korean?

[Patrick]

Time to buy something other ghan Korean?

 

[..]

Time to buy something other ghan Korean?

Y'ad think so.

[scooperhsd]

That is just plain sloppy not following the manual. I'd find somewhere else if you're not doing it yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if they re-used the crush washer as well, instead of using a new one like they were supposed to.

[Robert]

If you think any one of the auto MFG's are any better you are kidding yourself.

Please be aware that most of the dealers fired the mechanics when Covid hit, with the current situation there is a problem finding anyone who wants to be a tech, much less qualified. So when you take your car to a dealer know this.

[hubcapsc]

Where do you pour your old oil? I take my motorcycle oil
down to the dump where they have a collection tank.

-Mike

[Bagger John - #3785]

man I HATE oil changes done at dealerships.  Did my 1st oil change after getting new engine put in by Hyundai dealership.  They put on the new oil drain plug with crush washer so tight a normal socket set wrench, both hands, my entire body weight would not budge it loose.  I had to get my longer heavier duty torque wrench 17mm socket, both hands, all my force to snap it loose denting up each of the new corners on the new oil drain plug.  It was on so fricking tight the aluminum crush washer was dented in onto the threads of the oil drain plug that I could not get it off with my hands had to use vice grips on crush washer and 17mm socket on drain bolt to back it off that way lightly taking some threads off the bolt.

Aluminum oil pan, or steel?

If aluminum, those threads will eventually pull out due to over-tightening.

[scooperhsd]

Where do you pour your old oil? I take my motorcycle oil
down to the dump where they have a collection tank.

-Mike

Check if your local autoparts stores will take it. O'Reilley's here does.

[Willow]

Is there no Hyundai board on which to post ventings?

[Jess from VA]

Where do you pour your old oil?

Better than Dapper Dan.

[six2go #152]

Is there no Hyundai board on which to post ventings?

www.hyundai-forums.com

[old2soon]

      Far as recycling oil check with yer local Wal Mart if they offer oil change service. Been taking the oil outa Phatt Ghurl for awhile now. The Mechanic that svcs the Pontiac disposes of his own oil. Already checked-he won't take my oil from Phatt Ghurl. And last time I took oil to wally wurld no charge to take it. RIDE SAFE.

[vanavyman]

Took the wife's Mustang GT to the dealer to get since it had been about 6000 miles since the last oil change which was before we bought it.  1st one I had not done myself in a long time.  Couldn't figure out where to put the jack.  Everything under it was plastic.  Finally gave up.  I'll change my Ram 3500 and SUV.  Let the dealer do her toy.  If I had a real lift then I could change it.  Don't think Trish will see that as a reason for another garage.  (More space for motorcycles.)

[JimC]

They put on the new oil drain plug with crush washer so tight a normal socket set wrench, both hands, my entire body weight would not budge it loose.  I had to get my longer heavier duty torque wrench 17mm socket, both hands, all my force to snap it loose

Cookie,
I hate to add to that black cloud that seems to hang over your head, BUT, if you did what you described above, you just ruined you torque wrench also, may as well throw it out.

Maybe they will buy you a new one
LOL

Jim

[scooperhsd]

Yes - what you really needed was a long breaker bar (maybe 3/4 inch drive along with a 3/4 inch drive 17 mm socket). Or maybe an impact gun with that size of socket.

[Robert]

Took the wife's Mustang GT to the dealer to get since it had been about 6000 miles since the last oil change which was before we bought it.  1st one I had not done myself in a long time.  Couldn't figure out where to put the jack.  Everything under it was plastic.  Finally gave up.  I'll change my Ram 3500 and SUV.  Let the dealer do her toy.  If I had a real lift then I could change it.  Don't think Trish will see that as a reason for another garage.  (More space for motorcycles.)

Drive on ramps would be the best but sometimes there is a jacking point under the front cross member. Otherwise the only spot is the lift point on the edges of the body.

[cookiedough]

Yes - what you really needed was a long breaker bar (maybe 3/4 inch drive along with a 3/4 inch drive 17 mm socket). Or maybe an impact gun with that size of socket.

Have no impact gun and any longer breaker bar would not work since no room under the car jacked up on a side jack on one side.  Any longer bar would have hit the concrete ground not much room under the car to concrete driveway.  The torque wrench is fine as far as I know but do have a metal pipe 12 inches or so to slide over the craftsman socket wrench I should have used for leverage instead probably would have worked.  I once broke the ratchet mechanism on a socket set wrench by applying too much leverage though.

Is amazing how that extra 12-15 inches length of leverage makes removing stubborn bolts come off vs. normal socket wrench.  I removed few weeks ago a 1 7/8" ball from dad's old caprice classic with a pipe wrench been on since 1988 rusted on severely.  Pipe wrench alone NOT budge it with both my hands leaning back on it feet on metal bumper for more leverage.  I put that 12-15 inch metal hole in middle bar over the pipe wrench and WALLA, it moved.   Only 9 bucks for a new ball but figured I was there why not try it since only going to be used for a small trailer, took about 1 hour though to get ball off few inches at a time.  Was so stuck on pipe wrench alone after loosened did not work,  I had to use almost all the way until off the threads the metal hollow bar on pipe wrench.  I must be getting weak in my old age?   

My point being these so called 'certified mechanics' who do this on a daily basis should be held accountable for their sloppy work whether on cars or cycles.   If they break even a 10 dollar part they should admit it, replace it on dealership's dime,  vs. putting back on hoping the customer does not notice come next oil change.

[Patrick]

One little tidbit. When changing the filter, if its mounted vertical i recommend filling it before screwing it on.

When removing the filter always check for the O-ring/Quad ring.


One of the last jobs I retired from was making mechanics/ shops responsible for their actions.

[cookiedough]

One little tidbit. When changing the filter, if its mounted vertical i recommend filling it before screwing it on.

When removing the filter always check for the O-ring/Quad ring.


One of the last jobs I retired from was making mechanics/ shops responsible for their actions.

good points as well.  I fill my oil filter up over 1/2 full the oil absorbs into the paper filter element a lot pouring it in until overflows on top but oil sinks down in somehow to half full about.  Also remember to lightly oil the rubber gasket and as said,  make sure old o-ring of old oil filter is off not stuck onto the mounting surface of the vehicle.  Whomever did the last oil change before I got the 98 Valk somehow the old oil gasket of oil filter stuck onto the mating surface of the valk was NOT on the oil filter itself when I changed the oil/filter.  I never have had that issue personally in 30 years changing oil / filter when I do it but have somehow overtightened oil filter a few times needing a thin rag between oil filter and oil filter wrench to get it off better without slipping.

[Patrick]

Yep, don't overtighen the filter. I just hand tighten them. I've had to drive bars thru some to get them off. Sometimes the can spun/ pulled off and needed to chisel the base off.

When filling before installation, it takes a couple tries to get the filter full. The oill just magically disappears into the filter element.