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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2021, 12:38:45 PM » |
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He is advocating therapeutics and vitamins over inoculation.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2021, 12:48:57 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2021, 01:00:27 PM » |
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He is advocating therapeutics and vitamins over inoculation.
 I'm good with that. Sequence. If I happen to be one of the extremely rare breakthrough cases and experience more than mild illness, lay them therapeutics on me! I do take my vitamins every day. Not Dr. Mercola brand vitamins but they should be fine!  |
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 02:19:01 PM » |
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I have our list of supplements - starting off with general purpose One-a-Days and including 1000 mg Vit C. If by chance we get breakthrough - give me the therapeutics !!!
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2021, 03:45:06 PM » |
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The truth bombs didn't pass the truth test.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2021, 03:56:50 PM » |
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wish I had saved it
The doctor spoke truth
Dont do as I do do as I say is the CDC
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2021, 04:22:35 PM » |
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The doctor is speaking the truth, it has a familiar ring to it.. I think..
It's been spoken so few and far between since the chinese released their cootie concoction I thought it was dead and buried , long live doctors who stand up to the medical fascism mob!
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2021, 04:25:35 PM » |
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yes the censorship of free opinion is embraced again
and the corporation which holds no allegiance to any country romps roughshod over the doctors who say what they know and see
Nothing to see here you peasants and pissants move on
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2021, 04:30:59 PM » |
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The doctor is speaking the truth, it has a familiar ring to it.. I think..
It's been spoken so few and far between since the chinese released their cootie concoction I thought it was dead and buried , long live doctors who stand up to the medical fascism mob!
THE truth?!?!? I thought you were one of the ones who is constantly harping that the "truth" is somewhere in the middle, and there is no high ground, no right or wrong... The doctor is speaking his truth, which is contrary to the recommendations issued by the CDC and is potentially dangerous. If his truth works for you, by all means follow it. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2021, 06:51:19 PM » |
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The doctor is speaking the truth, it has a familiar ring to it.. I think..
It's been spoken so few and far between since the chinese released their cootie concoction I thought it was dead and buried , long live doctors who stand up to the medical fascism mob!
THE truth?!?!? I thought you were one of the ones who is constantly harping that the "truth" is somewhere in the middle, and there is no high ground, no right or wrong... The doctor is speaking his truth, which is contrary to the recommendations issued by the CDC and is potentially dangerous. If his truth works for you, by all means follow it. Don't hyperventilate bro If you like your doctor...... CDC is corrupt and no longer legit |
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 08:11:19 PM » |
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Rebuttal video. What a refreshing concept! This one seems less "controversial". Watch it with an open mind. This guy is as sharp as a tack. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 08:35:24 PM » |
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Few facts.
People who are healthy and in good shape physically don't die from the flu or much of anything else. If the only reason you are alive is because modern medicine keeps you going, many things in life can very well kill you.
Question there is at what point is the damage done to everyone else worth saving those people? That is also questionable. If you have something wrong with you, isn't it your job to make the extra steps to stay as safe as you can be?
Want to be safe? Use industrial masks and equipment. Guys who work in paint shops wear much better masked then any of these paper masks. Guys who cut concrete and many other people involved with chemicals all have better breathing protection. If you are that worried or in that frail of condition why aren't you using upper level air filtration solutions? Why is everyone else supposed to protect you?
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 08:53:09 PM » |
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2021, 05:37:46 AM » |
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Few facts.
People who are healthy and in good shape physically don't die from the flu or much of anything else.
No offence, but there were few facts in your post. COVID can make a healthy person puny in a heartbeat. It's Superman's Kryptonite. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-devastated-familys-plea-after-death-of-lawyer-who-refused-to-get-coronavirus-vaccine-12377315So, so many simlar stories. If you believe you should just man it out, I'm telling you this virus can emasculate you!  |
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Dr Marik -Chief of Critical Care and Pulmonology at Eastern Virginia medical school-who runs the" FLCCC" website- early on did a study to see who lived and who died of COVID--the biggest finding was a Vitamin D serum level of 30 seemed quite protective, BP med amlodopine seems to inhibit cellular uptake of the virus
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2021, 12:54:19 PM » |
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Dr Zelenko Told me what to do in 2020 His study has been replicated hundred of times. It seems pretty well provenif you can keep people from having to go to the hospital by properly administering hydroxy and zinc they dont die Why vaccinate kids when 99.995% chance of survival and you get antibodies that are god given https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yp4q21bnrroCoGMj0ktGnsWlPvfDGXW5/viewForcing anyone to take this experimental vaccine is genocide If someone tried to jab me I would not hesitate to inflict grievous bodily harm Dr Megele is alive and well This is one boy who will not walk into the chamber Lets see next year who is still alive/ hope all of y'all make it regardless of your political or medical opinions |
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2021, 01:17:03 PM » |
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Dr Zelenko Told me what to do in 2020 His study has been replicated hundred of times. It seems pretty well provenif you can keep people from having to go to the hospital by properly administering hydroxy and zinc they dont die Why vaccinate kids when 99.995% chance of survival and you get antibodies that are god given https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yp4q21bnrroCoGMj0ktGnsWlPvfDGXW5/viewForcing anyone to take this experimental vaccine is genocide If someone tried to jab me I would not hesitate to inflict grievous bodily harm Dr Megele is alive and well This is one boy who will not walk into the chamber Lets see next year who is still alive/ hope all of y'all make it regardless of your political or medical opinions Don't vaccinate kids, unless mommy and daddy initiate it themselves without coercion. I honestly hope everybody here (and elsewhere) makes it too. Watch out for horsesh!t in corners and pianos falling from the sky. Or not. Tomorrow is never given for any of us. Period. |
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Why vaccinate kids when 99.995% chance of survival and you get antibodies that are god given
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"Watch out for horsesh!t in corners and pianos falling from the sky."
Hahaha!
I thought it was cockroaches in the corners.. Dang it! Now I need some pointy boots.
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"Watch out for horsesh!t in corners and pianos falling from the sky."
Hahaha!
I thought it was cockroaches in the corners.. Dang it! Now I need some pointy boots.
 Money well spent. Kick the poop sh!t and the roaches. (I dont say poop, but have been known to use dookie). |
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It seems pretty well provenif you can keep people from having to go to the hospital by properly administering hydroxy and zinc they dont die I'm a firm believer in HCQ/Z-pac/Zinc; unfortunately, they don't always work (BBF got them all). Lets see next year who is still alive/ hope all of y'all make it Wow... that's a bit harsh. I did my due diligence before taking the vaccine. I guarantee I'll be alive next year (unless I get run over by a bus or some such thing). Heck, Rams and his wife had their shots last August, so far there is no indication of their imminent demise. I'm 8 months since mine; I'm doing fine, thanks. |
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regardless of your political or medical opinions
Well now, there's a challenge I hope I'm up for................ Heck, Rams and his wife had their shots last August, so far there is no indication of their imminent demise. I'm 8 months since mine; I'm doing fine, thanks.
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Lets see next year who is still alive/ hope all of y'all make it
regardless of your political or medical opinions
Well now, there's a challenge I hope I'm up for................ Heck, Rams and his wife had their shots last August, so far there is no indication of their imminent demise. I'm 8 months since mine; I'm doing fine, thanks.
Asked my COVID Doc about my newly acquired addiction to the color Orange. She couldn't explain it. I'm blaming Moderna............ Rams Wait... You're still here? |
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2021, 04:33:03 AM » |
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The doctor is speaking the truth, it has a familiar ring to it.. I think..
It's been spoken so few and far between since the chinese released their cootie concoction I thought it was dead and buried , long live doctors who stand up to the medical fascism mob!
Actually, the "doctor" is telling you what you want to hear/read. I'm not qualified to debate with him so, I won't. I feel certain I'm getting the truth from my own doctors. Maybe I'm as guilty as you are in seeking my own "truth". One thing I truly believe in is that, you have a choice in vaccination. But, it's not a matter of if you'll develop anti-bodies but when (this assumes you survive, most folks do). Rams |
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As a kid I got what I think were the mandatory vaccines. Polio, smallpox, maybe more. Who can be sure they will or won't have issues from any of them ?
I remember the huge controversy over Sabin and Salk over dead vs live vaccine. I also remember a million folks getting polio directly related to being vaccinated. Who is to say who would or wouldn't get sick because of any , or no, vaccine.
Folks are still today getting sick and some dying from WuFlu vaccine. I think like anything, its a crap shoot. More after affects are being learned of every day.
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As a kid I got what I think were the mandatory vaccines. Polio, smallpox, maybe more. Who can be sure they will or won't have issues from any of them ?
I remember the huge controversy over Sabin and Salk over dead vs live vaccine. I also remember a million folks getting polio directly related to being vaccinated. Who is to say who would or wouldn't get sick because of any , or no, vaccine.
Folks are still today getting sick and some dying from WuFlu vaccine. I think like anything, its a crap shoot. More after affects are being learned of every day.
My only response to your post is, we already know that acquiring COVID naturally can have lingering health effects. Not for all but definitely for many. Like playing poker? Some times ya win, some times ya lose. It's the player's decision to sit down at the table and play. After having three people stay at my home that tested positive for COVID 19, I'm pretty sure I was dealt a winning hand. Rams  |
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As a kid I got what I think were the mandatory vaccines. Polio, smallpox, maybe more. Who can be sure they will or won't have issues from any of them ?
I remember the huge controversy over Sabin and Salk over dead vs live vaccine. I also remember a million folks getting polio directly related to being vaccinated. Who is to say who would or wouldn't get sick because of any , or no, vaccine.
Folks are still today getting sick and some dying from WuFlu vaccine. I think like anything, its a crap shoot. More after affects are being learned of every day.
My only response to your post is, we already know that acquiring COVID naturally can have lingering health effects. Not for all but definitely for many. Like playing poker? Some times ya win, some times ya lose. It's the player's decision to sit down at the table and play. After having three people stay at my home that tested positive for COVID 19, I'm pretty sure I was dealt a winning hand. Rams I'm shooting craps and you're playing poker. ya takes you're chances. |
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My only response to your post is, we already know that acquiring COVID naturally can have lingering health effects. Not for all but definitely for many. ... For some. The term many is relative. Given the percentage the term few would be more applicable. Now that they have announced that vaccinated individuals may contract and transmit the viral infection logic tells us that vaccination does not contribute to "herd immunity". Ironically all the anti-COVID mitigations that have been instigated, including vaccination promotions, have essentially elongated the path to herd immunity thus defeating the ongoing destruction of the virus. It is true that more people will die but by elongating the duration will it actually be fewer or just the same number spread over a longer period? The vast majority of the people who contract the viral infection have a short time of very miserable sickness and then a while of recovery. The ones that are reported or that catch our attention are the one's who are killed or have lasting impact. They are not anywhere near the majority. |
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