worse than the disease?

[rocketray]

International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice, and Research--Worse than the disease ? Reviewing  Some Possible Unintended  Consequences of  the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19   

[Valkorado]

Ray, there are unintended consequences suffered by people who have been infected.  Please stop, for now at least.

Considering current events, I'm going to take a brief moratorium from this subject.  I would encourage others to do the same.

[rocketray]

I am a primary care physician with some 40 years  of experience and have treated well over a hundred  COVID patients  and  some think  the very high survival rate even w/o hydroxychloroquin or Ivermectin would bring pause to  a headlong dive into the vaccines--this paper does that well. I do not mean to upset  anyone.

[Bret SD]

I am a primary care physician with some 40 years  of experience and have treated well over a hundred  COVID patients  and  some think  the very high survival rate even w/o hydroxychloroquin or Ivermectin would bring pause to  a headlong dive into the vaccines--this paper does that well. I do not mean to upset  anyone.

The magic bug has made me sick  , I'm sick of all the lies and manipulation around it..

Thanks for your service, and for your valuable perspective. Many professionals with stellar records have been smeared over this crap, if they don't walk in parallel with the communists from china.

[Valkorado]

With due respect, I'm not upset with the therapeutics avenue all, I think they're wonderful.  I just get frustrated hearing high survival rate over and over without the acknowledgement of long term damage that can occur with infection.  Maybe we should have both -- vaccines for those who prefer inoculation and readily available therapeutics for those who prefer more reactive treatments.

If I were to rely on the latter, readily available would be very important to me.  Readily available like on my person if I was traveling, etc..  I'd take one of them horse pills at the fist sign of fever and low blood oxygen.

Heck if you can hook me up with some therapeutics I'll send you a pm to discuss it.  Ya know, just in case...    

Honest question tho.  I am reading that the onset of Delta can strike quickly after infection.  If you discourage vaccination, can you say with confidence that you are capable of successfully intervening with therapy treatments for your patients before any of them fall ill enough to require hospitalization?  That could be difficult unless you are prescribing therapeutics for prophalyctic use, which I believe is not currently approved on a large scale.

Also, with a 90%"ish" collective efficacy toward preventing severe illness and hospitalization (and potential sepsis, organ damage, blood clotting, etc.) why would you scoff at the vaccines?

[Skinhead]

With due respect, I'm not upset with the therapeutics avenue all, I think they're wonderful.  I just get frustrated hearing high survival rate over and over without the acknowledgement of long term damage that can occur with infection.  Maybe we should have both -- vaccines for those who prefer inoculation and readily available therapeutics for those who prefer more reactive treatments.

If I were to rely on the latter, readily available would be very important to me.  Readily available like on my person if I was traveling, etc..  I'd take one of them horse pills at the fist sign of fever and low blood oxygen.

Heck if you can hook me up with some therapeutics I'll send you a pm to discuss it.  Ya know, just in case...   

Honest question tho.  I am reading that the onset of Delta can strike quickly after infection.  If you discourage vaccination, can you say with confidence that you are capable of successfully intervening with therapy treatments for your patients before any of them fall ill enough to require hospitalization?  That could be difficult unless you are prescribing therapeutics for prophalyctic use, which I believe is not currently approved on a large scale.

Also, with a 90%"ish" collective efficacy toward preventing severe illness and hospitalization (and potential sepsis, organ damage, blood clotting, etc.) why would you scoff at vaccination?

I thought you were taking a moratorium from this subject.  When you said brief, I guess you really meant it!

[Valkorado]

With due respect, I'm not upset with the therapeutics avenue all, I think they're wonderful.  I just get frustrated hearing high survival rate over and over without the acknowledgement of long term damage that can occur with infection.  Maybe we should have both -- vaccines for those who prefer inoculation and readily available therapeutics for those who prefer more reactive treatments.

If I were to rely on the latter, readily available would be very important to me.  Readily available like on my person if I was traveling, etc..  I'd take one of them horse pills at the fist sign of fever and low blood oxygen.

Heck if you can hook me up with some therapeutics I'll send you a pm to discuss it.  Ya know, just in case...    

Honest question tho.  I am reading that the onset of Delta can strike quickly after infection.  If you discourage vaccination, can you say with confidence that you are capable of successfully intervening with therapy treatments for your patients before any of them fall ill enough to require hospitalization?  That could be difficult unless you are prescribing therapeutics for prophalyctic use, which I believe is not currently approved on a large scale.

Also, with a 90%"ish" collective efficacy toward preventing severe illness and hospitalization (and potential sepsis, organ damage, blood clotting, etc.) why would you scoff at vaccination?

I thought you were taking a moratorium from this subject.  When you said brief, I guess you really meant it!

Ya.  Apparently nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea.  I do hope to hear back from the Doc though.