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... when Willow insinuated that I am doomed to eternal damnation in the fiery pits of hell, ...
This is certainly not the place to argue what was said but I never came close to that. Your interpretation must be reading a lot into what you see as insinuated. Actually I'm not generally given to insinuation. I will pretty much say exactly what I mean. It was close enough. Unless I'm mistaken and the "one of us" you referred to was meant to be interpreted as you.  My fear of and relationship with God is none of your business. You were definitely insinuating that the gates of heaven will swing open wider for you than I. The angels will will sing more gloriously and trumpets will blast with greater fanfare for your much anticipated red carpet arrival. Maybe so, Willow. Maybe so. You pretty much even "insinuated" that St. Peter may not be willing to consider my lowly pleas for eternal residence. I guess you're an insider. Thanks for your warning. in•sin•u•ate ĭn-sĭn′yoo͞-āt″ intransitive verb To express or otherwise convey (a thought, for example) in an indirect or insidious way. synonym: suggest. |
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That way it's a learning experience for all.
I have often thought that it would be good to be told "why" a post was pulled. I haven't always known which rule that it broke. Knowing that would help in not doing it again. But I can see how that could greatly increase the time our moderators spend moderating. Agreed. That's why moderators make the big bucks. Rams
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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2021, 10:58:44 AM » |
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I don't think a moderator should participate in conversations about "Hot Topics". The job is to moderate and ensure the Rules of the Road are followed. It is impossible to separate who one is debating if, that person has the authority to influence/moderate more than all the other participants. That does not mean I think Willow has been unfair, just that the position carries a lot of authority.
I disagree with the premise that a moderator should not participate in "Hot Topics." We are members of this club; being unable to participate would mitigate our enjoyment of the club. So, what reason would we have to stick around? However, in a thread the moderator has posted, he/she should exercise extreme caution in staying within the RoR; as well as using the same caution in moderating other posts within the thread. I think both of those things are done... most of the time. Of course, sometimes we slip. In that case, a PM to myself or Willow would be the appropriate action. I'm not above pulling a post from Willow. Willow is not above pulling a post from me. |
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Of course, sometimes we slip. In that case, a PM to myself or Willow would be the appropriate action. I'm not above pulling a post from Willow. Willow is not above pulling a post from me.
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All these comments and suggestions about how and when to moderate posts. How about everyone just acknowledging and accepting that not everyone thinks...or should think, exactly the way they do and then carry on decent conversations with that in mind. It's not hard....people smart enough to purchase a Valkyrie in the first place shouldn't even need their conversations moderated.
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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2021, 12:51:02 PM » |
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It was close enough. Unless I'm mistaken and the "one of us" you referred to was meant to be interpreted as you. My fear of and relationship with God is none of your business. You were definitely insinuating that the gates of heaven will swing open wider for you than I. The angels will will sing more gloriously and trumpets will blast with greater fanfare for your much anticipated red carpet arrival. Maybe so, Willow. Maybe so. You pretty much even "insinuated" that St. Peter may not be willing to consider my lowly pleas for eternal residence. I guess you're an insider. Thanks for your warning. in•sin•u•ate ĭn-sĭn′yoo͞-āt″ intransitive verb To express or otherwise convey (a thought, for example) in an indirect or insidious way. synonym: suggest. Wow! Certainly none of that was there. "One of us" simply means either you or me stemming from that we seem to disagree. There was no insinuation of which one. I don't recall mentioning St. Peter. This is the sentence to which I believe you are referring: You may not wish to discuss theology with me but I suspect the day is coming when one of us would wish he had. How you can derive the insinuations or meanings you have attributed is well beyond me. |
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It was close enough. Unless I'm mistaken and the "one of us" you referred to was meant to be interpreted as you. My fear of and relationship with God is none of your business. You were definitely insinuating that the gates of heaven will swing open wider for you than I. The angels will will sing more gloriously and trumpets will blast with greater fanfare for your much anticipated red carpet arrival. Maybe so, Willow. Maybe so. You pretty much even "insinuated" that St. Peter may not be willing to consider my lowly pleas for eternal residence. I guess you're an insider. Thanks for your warning. in•sin•u•ate ĭn-sĭn′yoo͞-āt″ intransitive verb To express or otherwise convey (a thought, for example) in an indirect or insidious way. synonym: suggest. Wow! Certainly none of that was there. "One of us" simply means either you or me stemming from that we seem to disagree. There was no insinuation of which one.[/b] I don't recall mentioning St. Peter. This is the sentence to which I believe you are referring: You may not wish to discuss theology with me but I suspect the day is coming when one of us would wish he had. How you can derive the insinuations or meanings you have attributed is well beyond me. Aah-ha! So, the day is coming when you may wish you'd discussed theology with yourself? Goychya. It makes perfect sense now. You're squirmy, I'll give ya that. |
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It was close enough. Unless I'm mistaken and the "one of us" you referred to was meant to be interpreted as you. My fear of and relationship with God is none of your business. You were definitely insinuating that the gates of heaven will swing open wider for you than I. The angels will will sing more gloriously and trumpets will blast with greater fanfare for your much anticipated red carpet arrival. Maybe so, Willow. Maybe so. You pretty much even "insinuated" that St. Peter may not be willing to consider my lowly pleas for eternal residence. I guess you're an insider. Thanks for your warning. in•sin•u•ate ĭn-sĭn′yoo͞-āt″ intransitive verb To express or otherwise convey (a thought, for example) in an indirect or insidious way. synonym: suggest. Wow! Certainly none of that was there. "One of us" simply means either you or me stemming from that we seem to disagree. There was no insinuation of which one.[/b] I don't recall mentioning St. Peter. This is the sentence to which I believe you are referring: You may not wish to discuss theology with me but I suspect the day is coming when one of us would wish he had. How you can derive the insinuations or meanings you have attributed is well beyond me. Aah-ha! So, the day is coming when you may wish you'd discussed theology with yourself? Goychya. It makes perfect sense now. You're squirmy, I'll give ya that. Discuss involves multiple people. One of us will wish we had discussed. I guess it would have been more plain had I used "we" rather than "he". |
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« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2021, 01:33:16 PM » |
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It was close enough. Unless I'm mistaken and the "one of us" you referred to was meant to be interpreted as you. My fear of and relationship with God is none of your business. You were definitely insinuating that the gates of heaven will swing open wider for you than I. The angels will will sing more gloriously and trumpets will blast with greater fanfare for your much anticipated red carpet arrival. Maybe so, Willow. Maybe so. You pretty much even "insinuated" that St. Peter may not be willing to consider my lowly pleas for eternal residence. I guess you're an insider. Thanks for your warning. in•sin•u•ate ĭn-sĭn′yoo͞-āt″ intransitive verb To express or otherwise convey (a thought, for example) in an indirect or insidious way. synonym: suggest. Wow! Certainly none of that was there. "One of us" simply means either you or me stemming from that we seem to disagree. There was no insinuation of which one.[/b] I don't recall mentioning St. Peter. This is the sentence to which I believe you are referring: You may not wish to discuss theology with me but I suspect the day is coming when one of us would wish he had. How you can derive the insinuations or meanings you have attributed is well beyond me. Aah-ha! So, the day is coming when you may wish you'd discussed theology with yourself? Goychya. It makes perfect sense now. You're squirmy, I'll give ya that. Discuss involves multiple people. One of us will wish we had discussed. I guess it would have been more plain had I used "we" rather than "he". Gotcha!  One of us was discussing the topic. The other was making insinuations about "our" afterlife. But you're right. It's well beyond you. Strike that. You knew exactly what you were insinuating.  |
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Can we bring back the “meathead and baldo are assholes thread” ? No. That might be one of the few redeeming features you have Carl. “A man of few words”. What if you polled Bob and I ? I’ve always said the reason I don’t do Facebook is because I fear everybody would “defriend” me. (Not really, I just dislike what I hear of it) Last I saw the “Rob and Bob” duo was polling in the negative. I had an idea that it might drop to 20% or so. Mostly due to that frigging baldo dude dragging me down ! Would starting a poll about ones own popularity be breaking rules of the road ? |
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Can we bring back the “meathead and baldo are assholes thread” ? No. That might be one of the few redeeming features you have Carl. “A man of few words”. What if you polled Bob and I ? I’ve always said the reason I don’t do Facebook is because I fear everybody would “defriend” me. (Not really, I just dislike what I hear of it) Last I saw the “Rob and Bob” duo was polling in the negative. I had an idea that it might drop to 20% or so. Mostly due to that frigging baldo dude dragging me down ! Would starting a poll about ones own popularity be breaking rules of the road ? It was removed because it had deteriorated into a series of personal attacks. Any such thread is likely to bring out the negatives and go down the same path. I don't think it serves the welfare of the community to run popularity contests. The poll I posted was specifically because someone had repeatedly made accusations regarding the results of my moderating. It was borderline but I needed to know whether I was just not seeing what others might. As far as equally applying the Rules of the Road, I make efforts to be more lenient with those with whom I disagree than with those I would side with. I recognize that's not equal but it's the best I believe I can do. |
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Can we bring back the “meathead and baldo are assholes thread” ? No. That might be one of the few redeeming features you have Carl. “A man of few words”. What if you polled Bob and I ? I’ve always said the reason I don’t do Facebook is because I fear everybody would “defriend” me. (Not really, I just dislike what I hear of it) Last I saw the “Rob and Bob” duo was polling in the negative. I had an idea that it might drop to 20% or so. Mostly due to that frigging baldo dude dragging me down ! Would starting a poll about ones own popularity be breaking rules of the road ? It was removed because it had deteriorated into a series of personal attacks. Any such thread is likely to bring out the negatives and go down the same path. I don't think it serves the welfare of the community to run popularity contests. The poll I posted was specifically because someone had repeatedly made accusations regarding the results of my moderating. It was borderline but I needed to know whether I was just not seeing what others might. As far as equally applying the Rules of the Road, I make efforts to be more lenient with those with whom I disagree than with those I would side with. I recognize that's not equal but it's the best I believe I can do. I always believed you were doing the best you could. It’s a shame it became a series of personal attacks. I can’t believe anyone would disparage us. Out of curiousity, what was my percentage when you killed it ? |
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All these comments and suggestions about how and when to moderate posts. How about everyone just acknowledging and accepting that not everyone thinks...or should think, exactly the way they do and then carry on decent conversations with that in mind. It's not hard....people smart enough to purchase a Valkyrie in the first place shouldn't even need their conversations moderated.
Being nice or respectful is not a sign of weakness or capitulation...it's just being nice or respectful.
That’s too “Canadian” for us. In seriousness, I worry that we will rub off on you guys more than we’ll ever learn from you guys. It just seems this is our society now. Maybe it’s always been, it’s just more visible now. I know I’m as guilty, if not more than most. As far as post moderation. I welcome it. I just wish it to be applied equally. Has nothing to do with being in Canada or the US, and Canucks in general are no better or worse than Americans in terms of their capacity to be civil...35 years of extensive travel across the US and Canada tells me that . Simply a matter of choice...everyone has the option and ability to be respectful of others' opinions and converse/debate maturely if they choose to....especially when an initial common interest brought them together in the first place, you would think. |
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I've been reading through some of the posts on this thread and frankly, I find it rather disappointng in content for the most part. One individual seems to have made more posts than anyone else and the part I find disappointing is they're full of sarcasm. My suggestion...get over yourself!
Personally, I find the moderator action taken on this board to be quite reasonable. Yes, some posts are pulled for reasons that escapes me at the time, while others are left untouched. And yes, I've had some of mine pulled and for the most part I was able to understand why. It didn't affect my membership nor the hours of sleep. It's not a desirable job and is accomplished by imperfect humans. We may have lost a handful of members due to moderator action, some that are now gone quite frankly...I'm glad they're gone. For the most part, our membership are good people and I have conversed with the majority of them. Doesn't mean I always, if ever, agree with some of them. That's not the issue. I feel we need to leave things as they are and move on.
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All these comments and suggestions about how and when to moderate posts. How about everyone just acknowledging and accepting that not everyone thinks...or should think, exactly the way they do and then carry on decent conversations with that in mind. It's not hard....people smart enough to purchase a Valkyrie in the first place shouldn't even need their conversations moderated.
Being nice or respectful is not a sign of weakness or capitulation...it's just being nice or respectful.
That’s too “Canadian” for us. In seriousness, I worry that we will rub off on you guys more than we’ll ever learn from you guys. It just seems this is our society now. Maybe it’s always been, it’s just more visible now. I know I’m as guilty, if not more than most. As far as post moderation. I welcome it. I just wish it to be applied equally. Has nothing to do with being in Canada or the US, and Canucks in general are no better or worse than Americans in terms of their capacity to be civil...35 years of extensive travel across the US and Canada tells me that . Simply a matter of choice...everyone has the option and ability to be respectful of others' opinions and converse/debate maturely if they choose to....especially when an initial common interest brought them together in the first place, you would think. Well Mike, I guess we are going to just disagree on this. I’ve found IN GENERAL Canadians to be more polite and civil than Americans. |
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All these comments and suggestions about how and when to moderate posts. How about everyone just acknowledging and accepting that not everyone thinks...or should think, exactly the way they do and then carry on decent conversations with that in mind. It's not hard....people smart enough to purchase a Valkyrie in the first place shouldn't even need their conversations moderated.
Being nice or respectful is not a sign of weakness or capitulation...it's just being nice or respectful.
That’s too “Canadian” for us. In seriousness, I worry that we will rub off on you guys more than we’ll ever learn from you guys. It just seems this is our society now. Maybe it’s always been, it’s just more visible now. I know I’m as guilty, if not more than most. As far as post moderation. I welcome it. I just wish it to be applied equally. Has nothing to do with being in Canada or the US, and Canucks in general are no better or worse than Americans in terms of their capacity to be civil...35 years of extensive travel across the US and Canada tells me that . Simply a matter of choice...everyone has the option and ability to be respectful of others' opinions and converse/debate maturely if they choose to....especially when an initial common interest brought them together in the first place, you would think. Well Mike, I guess we are going to just disagree on this. I’ve found IN GENERAL Canadians to be more polite and civil than Americans. canada Total crimes per 1000 80.25 Ranked 10th. 94% more than United States |
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I’ve found IN GENERAL Canadians to be more polite and civil than Americans. Me too, but then I've never visited Toronto or Queerbec. But I have a universal prejudice against all big cities. Growing up on an island about a 20 minute small boat ride (14ft aluminum and 12hp outboard) over to Amherstburg, Ontario, we often motored over to buy good Canadian beer to bring home (both underage, and legal age). It was and probably still is much better than most US domestic. We never bothered with customs, because why would you? One of our group (John) was always a surly smart ass, but we all grew up together and put up with him. So one day we go over and get 2 cases of beer, but stop in to a small restaurant to get burgers and fries. John started mouthing off about hick canucks, and we told him to shut up. But he was on a roll and made a proper fool of himself (and probably us too). So he goes off to the men's, but when he gets back, it is apparent he had received a proper ass kicking. Nothing severe, but more than enough to get his attention. We all told him he had it coming for his fat mouth in THEIR country. He said, I didn't think canucks was like a bad word. I replied, it isn't if you use it in friendship and good humor, if you use it in ugly American smart ass, you get your ass kicked. I always had a good opinion of Canadians, and it actually went up that day. (John was to have several more ass kickings over the years, because he never learned, and had no internal moderator to his mouth). My island center, MI left, Ontario, Canada right.  A wonderful place to grow up, except in winter you froze your noogies off. 
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If anyone wants to see what a fully (Almost) unmoderated forum looks like, PM me and I'll give ya' a link to one. It ain't pretty. Don't go there with your spouse watching. Or kids. Or anyone that wants to go to "the good place" when they die if they're of a religious type. Or if you've recently eaten. Or.... well, you get the idea... I don't really need to see that , I think I have a pretty good sense of what is OK (and how to say it) and what's not. And I'm pretty sure that I have had some posts pulled before - justly - so I didn't complain about it either. I've been on internet forums for a LONG time now, and I am a member of a couple mostly quiet (mostly dead) email groups, and we all had the same kind of rules. |
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The emperor has no clothes
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« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2021, 09:26:40 PM » |
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I’ve found IN GENERAL Canadians to be more polite and civil than Americans.
There is a remote possibility they don't know you as well. Rams There is. But I observed them being polite to others, not just myself. |
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J.Mencalice
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"When You're Dead, Your Bank Account Goes to Zero"
Livin' Better Side of The Great Divide
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« Reply #71 on: September 02, 2021, 08:15:53 AM » |
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If one shows up at the ballpark and the umpiring crew are wearing the uniforms of the opposing team, it would be prudent to sit on the bench and not argue any calls on the field. If ya hit one 380' out of the park over the center field wall and it's yelled out "Foul Ball!" by the ump, well you pretty much know where you stand...at home plate with your bat (symbolically) in your hand.  |
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"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson
Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...
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« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2021, 08:29:34 AM » |
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... Out of curiousity, what was my percentage when you killed it ?
I wasn't the one who killed it. It was 13 to 12 with one entry for pie. Members of a certain 2A-focused forum would understand. |
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« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2021, 07:30:00 AM » |
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I may be one of the members the poll is aimed toward since I don't frequent the boards much anymore. The reasons are not as listed on the poll question, I am just tired of the personal attacks toward other members that have differing viewpoints politically. It happens from both sides of the political aisle. I have never met Meathead or Baldo but their posts are usually well thought out and reasonably phrased (even if they mostly are incorrect, ) unlike some previous members that were stirring the pot. When personal attacks get in the way of civil discourse, I lose interest. I wouldn't want to moderate and most members are happy I don't since many posts would be pulled as trolling. I find a healthy discourse of any subject a good thing, sadly, some can't seem to refrain from letting themselves become keyboard commandos. I thought this board is for all who love to ride and especially who ride Valkyries no matter their political views. |
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Life is about the ride, not the destination. 97 Valkyrie Tour 99 Valkyrie Interstate  |
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DarkSideR
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To be good, and to do good, is all we have to do.
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« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2021, 09:16:22 AM » |
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I voted.
Willow isn't driving members away, it's members are. I come and check things out at least once a day to find the same non motorcycle related topics at the top of the board. From my perspective there is a group of regulars that continuously post, comment on topics that only interest them keeping that thread at the top. I myself an sick of seeing those non motorcycle threads at the top of the board EVERY SINGLE DAY. If want news and opinions I can flip on any TV channel. I come here to for motorcycle content.
On the flip side anyone outside of that group posts something motorcycle related it's gets few views/comments and quickly gets buried.
The General Board is more a political forum for the regulars more than is is a forum for motorcyclists.
My suggestion.. anything political should only exist in the Karen Board. Keep the General Board to motorcycle related, and Tech for tech. That could get others posting again and attract new members.
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RainMaker
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VRCC#24130 - VRCCDS#0117 - IBA#48473
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« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2021, 10:42:44 AM » |
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Can we bring back the “meathead and baldo are assholes thread” ? I hope not. That was a stupid thread. While our political views are different, I would ride with either of you anytime and anywhere. Good guys. |
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« Reply #76 on: September 05, 2021, 10:50:50 AM » |
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Can we bring back the “meathead and baldo are assholes thread” ? I hope not. That was a stupid thread. While our political views are different, I would ride with either of you anytime and anywhere. Good guys. Thanks, Mark. We had a good time in Roanoke  |
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Alien
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Ride Safe, Be Kind
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« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2021, 06:34:32 PM » |
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Ok, you asked -- Yes you make it very obvious when you have an axe to grind with a particular member or idea.
You've repeatedly insulted those who you disagree with, etc.
Now, I don't need you to like me and I don't really care what you think or say, as I have written you off as a perpetually grumpy guy. BUT - It does drive others away. Do with this what you will. You asked.
Ride Safe,
Alien
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« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2021, 10:47:47 PM » |
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I’m sure we have lost members. I think more is due to deaths and buying a different motorcycle. There can be no doubt though that liberals are not welcome here (in general). Members have been told to just go away. Sometimes by a moderator. I don’t remember that being said to a conservative member. Some of them have “just gone away”. Some stay around and just be quiet. (They are probably the smart ones)
Just a look over on the P&M will tell you a lot. It is a predominant “Democrats, Biden, AOC, Pelosi are evil, lying bastards” sh!tshow over there. This is what we represent as a club. At least now it’s hidden from the public.
Hopefully our death rate will go down, and we can make up for some that we’ve told to go away.
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Patrick
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« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2021, 12:20:41 AM » |
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I’m sure we have lost members. I think more is due to deaths and buying a different motorcycle. There can be no doubt though that liberals are not welcome here (in general). Members have been told to just go away. Sometimes by a moderator. I don’t remember that being said to a conservative member. Some of them have “just gone away”. Some stay around and just be quiet. (They are probably the smart ones)
Just a look over on the P&M will tell you a lot. It is a predominant “Democrats, Biden, AOC, Pelosi are evil, lying bastards” sh!tshow over there. This is what we represent as a club. At least now it’s hidden from the public.
Hopefully our death rate will go down, and we can make up for some that we’ve told to go away.
Whats a P&M ? I'll have to go take a look. But your part in quotes about being a 'shitshow'. Maybe it is a 'shitshow' but whats inside the quotes is true.  |
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