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As of January ‘21 https://www.verywellhealth.com/tylenol-arthritis-ingredients-5092542Generic also available. Dr. wants Barbara taking 650mg every 4 hours, went to drug store looking for bottle of 325mg and saw these new 650mg boxes. I had no idea. Recommend dose on box is 2 pills every 8 hours. Not to exceed 6 per day. That’s 3,900mg a day. Good to know.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2021, 07:26:12 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2021, 08:04:31 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
Actually, Tylenol can ruin your liver. Ibuprofen can ruin your kidneys.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2021, 08:09:36 AM » |
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So how much of this STUFF is safe ? What does it take to start destroying anything ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2021, 08:50:54 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
Actually, Tylenol can ruin your liver. Ibuprofen can ruin your kidneys. Sorry for the mixup. I knew too much was bad for you.....
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2021, 08:53:48 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
Actually, Tylenol can ruin your liver. also destroys joint cartilage, but they have other drugs and joint replacement surgery to fix the damage from the poison. by FDA law at one time for OTC tylenol provided the same pain relief as aspirin and for the same amount of time. tylenol and the others just started working sooner than aspirin. drug companies paid off doctors and hospitals to push tylenol over aspirin. white willow bark which is were they originally found aspirin is safer and no side effects compared to drug company aspirin. also causes major skin problems https://www.levinlaw.com/news/tylenol
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2021, 09:16:11 AM » |
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I’m a true believer in aspirin. Use it quite often however sometimes it gives me heartburn even with food.
I was just shocked at the new non prescription strength since I haven’t seen it in tv.
Post surgically Barbara is taking 325mg aspirin twice a day.
The acetaminophen is marketed as arthritis relief 650mg tablets
2 pills every 8 hours. No more than 6 pills per day
Not to exceed 10 days straight. There are other warnings on the box.
I know some cannot take too much aspirin and do live with constant pain. Pain sucks, so it’s good to know that the old saying for acetaminophen of no more than 2000mg a day can be raised.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2021, 09:24:38 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
Actually, Tylenol can ruin your liver. also destroys joint cartilage, but they have other drugs and joint replacement surgery to fix the damage from the poison. by FDA law at one time for OTC tylenol provided the same pain relief as aspirin and for the same amount of time. tylenol and the others just started working sooner than aspirin. drug companies paid off doctors and hospitals to push tylenol over aspirin. white willow bark which is were they originally found aspirin is safer and no side effects compared to drug company aspirin. also causes major skin problems https://www.levinlaw.com/news/tylenolWhat are your thoughts on DHMO? https://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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I’m a true believer in aspirin. Use it quite often however sometimes it gives me heartburn even with food.
I was just shocked at the new non prescription strength since I haven’t seen it in tv.
Post surgically Barbara is taking 325mg aspirin twice a day.
The acetaminophen is marketed as arthritis relief 650mg tablets
2 pills every 8 hours. No more than 6 pills per day
Not to exceed 10 days straight. There are other warnings on the box.
I know some cannot take too much aspirin and do live with constant pain. Pain sucks, so it’s good to know that the old saying for acetaminophen of no more than 2000mg a day can be raised.
For sure , PAIN SUCKS !! I almost always take Naproxum (Aleve - 2 tablets ) or Extra strength Tylenol (2 caplets - 500 mg each) just to get moving in the morning, and I usually take the Tylenol when I go to bed as well. Connie has suggested I avoid NSAIDs, but my neck and right shoulder have been in agony this week (probably sleeping on them wrong). Wife is cranking on pain meds, although she said she is somewhat better after the D&C. I'm hoping the surgery will reduce her need after recovery ( where she will be getting some good stuff). I try to avoid narcotics, however.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2021, 09:53:41 AM » |
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Too much Tylenol can ruin your kidneys - pay attention to how much you're using.
Actually, Tylenol can ruin your liver. also destroys joint cartilage, but they have other drugs and joint replacement surgery to fix the damage from the poison. by FDA law at one time for OTC tylenol provided the same pain relief as aspirin and for the same amount of time. tylenol and the others just started working sooner than aspirin. drug companies paid off doctors and hospitals to push tylenol over aspirin. white willow bark which is were they originally found aspirin is safer and no side effects compared to drug company aspirin. also causes major skin problems https://www.levinlaw.com/news/tylenolWhat are your thoughts on DHMO? https://www.dhmo.org/facts.htmlnot good if its Heavy, even if its filtered. https://www.aquasana.com/info/top-10-contaminants-found-in-tap-water-pd.html
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2021, 09:55:11 AM » |
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I've never been a fan of Tylenol for the above reasons, a lot of relatives and friends in the health care business. I like aspirin but went to the coated stuff, I can't spell ibuprofen  . I try to stick with just 2 in the morning, takes the edge off. [ headaches and throat pain]
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2021, 09:57:56 AM » |
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I’m a true believer in aspirin. Use it quite often however sometimes it gives me heartburn even with food.
I was just shocked at the new non prescription strength since I haven’t seen it in tv.
Post surgically Barbara is taking 325mg aspirin twice a day.
The acetaminophen is marketed as arthritis relief 650mg tablets
2 pills every 8 hours. No more than 6 pills per day
Not to exceed 10 days straight. There are other warnings on the box.
I know some cannot take too much aspirin and do live with constant pain. Pain sucks, so it’s good to know that the old saying for acetaminophen of no more than 2000mg a day can be raised.
For sure , PAIN SUCKS !! I almost always take Naproxum (Aleve - 2 tablets ) or Extra strength Tylenol (2 caplets - 500 mg each) just to get moving in the morning, and I usually take the Tylenol when I go to bed as well. Connie has suggested I avoid NSAIDs, but my neck and right shoulder have been in agony this week (probably sleeping on them wrong). Wife is cranking on pain meds, although she said she is somewhat better after the D&C. I'm hoping the surgery will reduce her need after recovery ( where she will be getting some good stuff). I try to avoid narcotics, however. the wrong common american diet causes inflammation which causes pain which causes most to believe the FDA wouldn't allow the food system to be poisoned so they reach for the meds. Lose the wheat and grains, lose the inflammation https://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2015/05/lose-the-wheat-and-grains-lose-the-inflammation/
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2021, 09:59:12 AM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2021, 10:47:58 AM » |
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So how much of this STUFF is safe ? What does it take to start destroying anything ?
You want to limit use of either as much as possible. Extended use of either can cause damage. Ibuprofen can also result in GI bleeding/ulcers. If you need more than recommended dose, try alternating between the two. Tylenol: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults of 3000 mg; with no more than 650 mg every 6 hours, as needed. Ibuprofen: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults 3200 mg; with no more than 800 mg every 6 hours. as needed. Again these doses are for short term... not for extended use.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2021, 01:22:45 PM » |
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So how much of this STUFF is safe ? What does it take to start destroying anything ?
You want to limit use of either as much as possible. Extended use of either can cause damage. Ibuprofen can also result is GI bleeding/ulcers. If you need more than recommended dose, try alternating between the two. Tylenol: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults of 3000 mg; with no more than 650 mg every 6 hours, as needed. Ibuprofen: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults 3200 mg; with no more than 800 mg every 6 hours. as needed. Again these doses are for short term... not for extended use. Thanks. The Doc's don't want me taking any. I limit myself to the 2 in the morning 99% of the time. It takes the edge off,
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2021, 01:40:58 PM » |
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So how much of this STUFF is safe ? What does it take to start destroying anything ?
You want to limit use of either as much as possible. Extended use of either can cause damage. Ibuprofen can also result is GI bleeding/ulcers. If you need more than recommended dose, try alternating between the two. Tylenol: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults of 3000 mg; with no more than 650 mg every 6 hours, as needed. Ibuprofen: Absolute maximum daily dose for adults 3200 mg; with no more than 800 mg every 6 hours. as needed. Again these doses are for short term... not for extended use. Thanks. The Doc's don't want me taking any. I limit myself to the 2 in the morning 99% of the time. It takes the edge off, If they don't want you using any, you shouldn't. You probably already have an underlying issue that it will make worse.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2021, 02:10:44 PM » |
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I try to avoid all of them. Tylenol and aspirin won't touch my pain, Aleve works like a champ but sometimes makes me bleed.
The best thing I've found is Curcumin Complex (turmeric extract) with BioPerine (a black pepper extract "thermonutrient" that works synergistically with the Curcumin). It really helps with my GI inflammation and pain. Great for joint pain and mobility and other types of inflammation as well.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2021, 02:37:16 PM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up.
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I try to avoid all of them. Tylenol and aspirin won't touch my pain, Aleve works like a champ but sometimes makes me bleed.
The best thing I've found is Curcumin Complex (turmeric extract) with BioPerine (a black pepper extract "thermonutrient" that works synergistically with the Curcumin). It really helps with my GI inflammation and pain. Great for joint pain and mobility and other types of inflammation as well.
some recent research has shown better absorption of curcumin with certain fat intake than using the bioperine. u can look it up. add high omega 3 fats for inflammation. cut out all wheat and grains from diet give it 30 days and see how much better your GI gets. www.wheatbelly.com he is a MD
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2021, 10:36:04 PM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2021, 04:23:25 AM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin. so u mean the medical industry tells people to take aspirin every day for heart health which then causes another health issue so a person needs to go to the medical industry again with doctor visits and huge insurance payments and have to buy other drugs to ease the ulcer problems?
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2021, 07:33:17 AM » |
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I try to avoid all of them. Tylenol and aspirin won't touch my pain, Aleve works like a champ but sometimes makes me bleed.
The best thing I've found is Curcumin Complex (turmeric extract) with BioPerine (a black pepper extract "thermonutrient" that works synergistically with the Curcumin). It really helps with my GI inflammation and pain. Great for joint pain and mobility and other types of inflammation as well.
That's a very powerful combination, as I understand it, black pepper extract acts as a type of nutrient shuttling vehicle as well as numerous other positive, health promoting properties. I'll be looking into it more, remember vitamin C in higher doses is a great anti-inflammatory as well..
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2021, 08:54:08 AM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin. so u mean the medical industry tells people to take aspirin every day for heart health which then causes another health issue so a person needs to go to the medical industry again with doctor visits and huge insurance payments and have to buy other drugs to ease the ulcer problems? Vicious cycle isn't it ! They have it all figured out !
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For most of my youth (through mid 30s), drinking vast quantities of beer (and some shots), I always came home and drank a tall glass of water or two and took a double dose of Tylenol, to cut down on (not prevent) hangovers.
Sometime later, someone told me Tylenol and alcohol are not a good mix.
So that's what happened to me.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2021, 11:26:25 AM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin. so u mean the medical industry tells people to take aspirin every day for heart health which then causes another health issue so a person needs to go to the medical industry again with doctor visits and huge insurance payments and have to buy other drugs to ease the ulcer problems? The recommended aspirin dose is typically 81 mg (a baby aspirin); that's hardly high dose. Not everyone is recommended to take aspirin, only those with proven cardiovascular issues.
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2021, 01:16:39 PM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin. so u mean the medical industry tells people to take aspirin every day for heart health which then causes another health issue so a person needs to go to the medical industry again with doctor visits and huge insurance payments and have to buy other drugs to ease the ulcer problems? The recommended aspirin dose is typically 81 mg (a baby aspirin); that's hardly high dose. Not everyone is recommended to take aspirin, only those with proven cardiovascular issues. actually the original study was 50mg. although for yrs doctors were telling patients to just take one aspirin tablet per day, never telling patients to take 50mg which was basically a baby aspirin at one time. They did it to my dad until I questioned the doctor, and THEN the doctor changed what he told my dad to do. and later they did it to mom, until I told her to question the doctor, he changed his directions also. cause of course my dad and mom didn't listen to their child. they didn't let it out into the general news circuit for over ten yrs that most ulcers are caused by a bacteria and during those ten yrs the drug cartel companies pushed heavily tagamet and other pills for ulcers. if u want to do some interesting research which there is much out of Japan about the chemical that is in tagamet. it is a great anti-cancer chemical for colon cancer. but that would hurt the billion dollar chemo medical industry departments bottom line.
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Well, we certainly can't do anything to hurt the chemo industry. That just wouldn't do. I wonder how many gallons of that stuff gets pumped into our bodies every day.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2021, 02:57:03 PM » |
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Anyone who's had gastric bypass, Aspirin (As well as other NSAIDS like ibuprofen and Naproxen) are off limits, or extremely limited, so Acetaminophen it is...
And for anyone, even those who haven't had bariatric surgery, NSAIDS should be used carefully, they can cause bad ulcers.
ulcers are caused by bacterial infections. u can look it up. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection is a very common cause of GI ulcers. However, GI ulcers also result from long term and/or high dose use of NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, naproxen, aspirin. so u mean the medical industry tells people to take aspirin every day for heart health which then causes another health issue so a person needs to go to the medical industry again with doctor visits and huge insurance payments and have to buy other drugs to ease the ulcer problems? The recommended aspirin dose is typically 81 mg (a baby aspirin); that's hardly high dose. Not everyone is recommended to take aspirin, only those with proven cardiovascular issues. actually the original study was 50mg. although for yrs doctors were telling patients to just take one aspirin tablet per day, never telling patients to take 50mg which was basically a baby aspirin at one time. They did it to my dad until I questioned the doctor, and THEN the doctor changed what he told my dad to do. and later they did it to mom, until I told her to question the doctor, he changed his directions also. cause of course my dad and mom didn't listen to their child. they didn't let it out into the general news circuit for over ten yrs that most ulcers are caused by a bacteria and during those ten yrs the drug cartel companies pushed heavily tagamet and other pills for ulcers. if u want to do some interesting research which there is much out of Japan about the chemical that is in tagamet. it is a great anti-cancer chemical for colon cancer. but that would hurt the billion dollar chemo medical industry departments bottom line. The most recent research recommendations are 75 to 150 mg daily. The most common dose is 81 mg daily. I'm not sure what 10 year span to which you are referring. H. Pylori was discovered in 1982 by Australian pathologist, Robin Warren, and clinical researcher, Barry Marshall. After finally growing a successful culture of the spiral shaped, gram negative bacterium, further patient studies showed H. pylori in almost every patient with gastric inflammation and gastric or duodenal ulcers. Lacking a suitable animal model, Marshall performed an experiment on himself by drinking the live H. pylori culture. He subsequently developed severe gastric inflammation and a clear link between H. pylori and peptic ulcer disease was established. Warren and Marshall went on to show that the ulcers could be cured by eliminating H. pylori with antibiotics. It was not kept secret.
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Marshall performed an experiment on himself by drinking the live H. pylori culture. He subsequently developed severe gastric inflammation and a clear link between H. pylori and peptic ulcer disease was established.
Those evil greedy doctors, not caring about anything but profit!
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Marshall performed an experiment on himself by drinking the live H. pylori culture. He subsequently developed severe gastric inflammation and a clear link between H. pylori and peptic ulcer disease was established.
Those evil greedy doctors, not caring about anything but profit! I know, right? Selfish bastages!
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