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Wizzard
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« on: January 16, 2022, 08:04:42 PM »

This is incredible. I would buy this before any electric vehicle. Look at the weight to hp ratio. and minimal moving parts.

https://www.astronaerospace.com/
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2022, 09:18:25 PM »

    WOWSER! But from what waas discussed no go with dino! Hope big oil and big automotive don't kill this. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2022, 11:12:28 AM »

That is very interesting technology!  I doubt that a gasoline fueled model will see much if any use but a hydrogen fueled model might.  Although, the trouble with hydrogen is that you cannot pack as much chemical energy in a small space like you can with gasoline or diesel. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2022, 11:16:42 AM »

That is very interesting technology!  I doubt that a gasoline fueled model will see much if any use but a hydrogen fueled model might.  Although, the trouble with hydrogen is that you cannot pack as much chemical energy in a small space like you can with gasoline or diesel. 
Why wouldn't that gas model be of great use?
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2022, 11:46:17 AM »

That is very interesting technology!  I doubt that a gasoline fueled model will see much if any use but a hydrogen fueled model might.  Although, the trouble with hydrogen is that you cannot pack as much chemical energy in a small space like you can with gasoline or diesel. 
Why wouldn't that gas model be of great use?
Politics!
If the gasoline does not burn completely and cleanly, it will produce carbon that will significantly reduce the life of the engine.  Even so, the major problem for a gasoline fueled engine will be politics.  Not science or wisdom, but politics.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2022, 12:04:09 PM »

Saw this the other day.

My first thought was how much fun it would be on a motorcycle!
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2022, 12:58:20 PM »

Saw this the other day.

My first thought was how much fun it would be on a motorcycle!

       2 of em weigh less than our one flat 6!  cooldude Course keepin the rear tir uncooked could be a mite problematical!  Roll Eyes RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2022, 12:58:57 PM »

That is amazing technology. It looks like these guys actually have the experience and ability to get it to market. The specs on this thing are awesome. You can stack them together for more horsepower. So 2 of them is 61 Lbs. and 340 HP and so on.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2022, 01:00:27 PM »

Interesting concept, will be interesting to see if it really works... I notice all they have our CGI renderings of the engine, doesn't look like a real one has yet been made as far as I can tell...

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2022, 01:39:36 PM »

Maybe they should team up with Elio Motors?  lol.
(I hope I'm wrong).
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2022, 01:42:21 PM »

Maybe they should team up with Elio Motors?  lol.
(I hope I'm wrong).


Is Elio still around?
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2022, 02:11:37 PM »

Interesting concept, will be interesting to see if it really works... I notice all they have our CGI renderings of the engine, doesn't look like a real one has yet been made as far as I can tell...



In the 10 min promo vid, near the end, they show a prototype firing up.

I'm trying my get my head around transfer of power to the ground.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2022, 02:42:05 PM »

Interesting concept, will be interesting to see if it really works... I notice all they have our CGI renderings of the engine, doesn't look like a real one has yet been made as far as I can tell...



In the 10 min promo vid, near the end, they show a prototype firing up.

I'm trying my get my head around transfer of power to the ground.
I watched the video. I still don’t really understand how this engine works. It kind of seems like a hybrid Wankel engine. But with multiple firing chambers.

Yeah, I agree, the example is somewhat vague in the firing process.

I had to stop the vid and study it a little and I think I understand it some.

If I got it right, it has just one firing chamber that compresses the fuel/air while moving it to the firing chamber and moving the exhaust of the last firing out at the same time.

The MotorTrend article listed on the website is 2 years old.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2022, 03:22:35 PM »

Maybe they should team up with Elio Motors?  lol.
(I hope I'm wrong).


Is Elio still around?

Yes, back in October they announced they are putting all of their efforts into releasing an electric version. So, the people who put in their deposits for the sub $8000 gas burner will have to wait even longer.  The "new" electric will start production towards end of 2022 (I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 4th quarter of never).  Electric version is around $14000, I think.  By the way, original release date was in 2012.....

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2022, 03:24:44 PM »

Maybe they should team up with Elio Motors?  lol.
(I hope I'm wrong).


And the Sparrow.  Cheesy
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Psychotic Bovine
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2022, 03:40:12 PM »

Maybe they should team up with Elio Motors?  lol.
(I hope I'm wrong).


And the Sparrow.  Cheesy

Well, technically the Sparrow was made.  Elio has only made a prototype and some t-shirts!
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2022, 04:55:10 PM »

There's another video on youtube that goes into detail on how it works and shows an actual engine running (albeit briefly).

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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2022, 08:00:23 PM »

I did not see the data on hp and torque curve throughout the rpm range. Need a working model in a test cell for a few hundred hours.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2022, 10:02:35 AM »

Well... it's not an actual torque curve, but to give you a rough idea...

HP = Torque x RPM / 5252

Extrapolate that out... Torque = HP * 5252 / RPM

Torque = 160 x 5252 / 25000 = a whopping 33.61 ft*lb

So basically, this ain't no Harley!!!  Cheesy

But rev it up and you may be able to have some fun.
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