Wow. What a Kick!

[Chrisj CMA]

Well I finally got the new shotgun out. Got the ten round magazine extender dialed in and a really good sling.





Took it out shooting Saturday. All I can say again is WOW!   I shot 3” 00Buck and 3.5” magnum Turkey  loads #5 shot.

What I learned is you should wear more than a sleeveless T-shirt duhh.

So after a full magazine of 3 and 3.5 inch shells I had bruises and red marks almost bleeding on my shoulder. I have shot many rounds of 00 Buck from my bird gun in a sleeveless shirt it’s a 12 ga 870 as well but only 2.75”.

What a difference. I expected more recoil. But I didn’t expect it to be so brutal. Lol

So last night I cut down an old cammo shirt and added rubber padded leather from my old throw over bags (now it’s Valkyrie related). This has gotta help a lot. I can’t wait to get out there again and see

[Jess from VA]

I don't hunt birds, so I never shoot 3" or 3.5 loads".  And with 2 3/4, the mag holds more.

I'm sure you know this, but really firmly holding the fore-end helps mitigate shotgun recoil.  Rifle shooting, the fore-end hand is more of just a fulcrum for sight stability (until you get into the big calibers).

And don't put the butt in the crook of arm and shoulder, slide it over an inch and put it on your chest peck muscle.

I have these around here somewhere.


The pad is better than the slip-on (which can make the butt too long for me).

[MarkT]

I put a Decelerator pad on my Weatherby 300WM as the kick was brutal, even with a folded towel and pulled in hard, it is bruising.  Then the scope eye relief is too much.  Got some adjustment with a 20MOA picatinny rail but not quite enough as the Leupold 50mm objective lens gets stopped moving rearward by the barrel taper.  Slightly higher mounts than the Weaver tactical rings would help but maybe not worth the trouble as I don't care to run LOTS of rounds at the range due to the brutal kick - and when hunting, it's typically only ONE kick.  Don't really need to tune it much as it's already about 3/4 MOA with factory ammo, and I'm not hunting hundreds of yards.  Could play with it at the range as they are just finishing the setup of the 1,000 yd range.  But again, 300WM isn't ideal for LR competition work, especially with a hunting weight barrel.  Though it does have a precision trigger and floated barrel.  I don't have a 6.5 Creedmore (yet).  Do have a nice precision AR10 in .308 though.  I should get to work on tuning it, and precision handloads.

[3fan4life]

I have an old 16ga double barrel that will let you shoot both barrels at the same time.

I've only done that once, it was enough.

I put a Decelerator pad on my Weatherby 300WM as the kick was brutal, even with a folded towel and pulled in hard, it is bruising.  Then the scope eye relief is too much.  Got some adjustment with a 20MOA picatinny rail but not quite enough as the Leupold 50mm objective lens gets stopped moving rearward by the barrel taper.  Slightly higher mounts than the Weaver tactical rings would help but maybe not worth the trouble as I don't care to run LOTS of rounds at the range due to the brutal kick - and when hunting, it's typically only ONE kick.  Don't really need to tune it much as it's already about 3/4 MOA with factory ammo, and I'm not hunting hundreds of yards.  Could play with it at the range as they are just finishing the setup of the 1,000 yd range.  But again, 300WM isn't ideal for LR competition work, especially with a hunting weight barrel.  Though it does have a precision trigger and floated barrel.  I don't have a 6.5 Creedmore (yet).  Do have a nice precision AR10 in .308 though.  I should get to work on tuning it, and precision handloads.

I have a Mossberg 7mm Magnum that kicked like a mule.

Took it to a gunsmith that installed a mercury tube in the stock.

Now it kicks less than my 30.06.

[Jess from VA]

So you're at the gun show and you come across this (hardly used for pretty cheap) and say, man that just has to be fun.

With factory 240gr JHP 44 mag, it's not as fun as you'd think.    

With factory 180gr JHP 44 special, it's much better.  And #12 bird shot is hardly any kick at all.

Back when I would carry this in my jeans pocket, I loaded up a bird shot to fire first, and 44mag second.  But bird shot past arms reach is not really safe for anyone in that general direction.    So I quit that foolishness.

[Chrisj CMA]

I don't hunt birds, so I never shoot 3" or 3.5 loads".  And with 2 3/4, the mag holds more.

I'm sure you know this, but really firmly holding the fore-end helps mitigate shotgun recoil.  Rifle shooting, the fore-end hand is more of just a fulcrum for sight stability (until you get into the big calibers).

And don't put the butt in the crook of arm and shoulder, slide it over an inch and put it on your chest peck muscle.

I have these around here somewhere.


The pad is better than the slip-on (which can make the butt too long for me).

Jess. I won’t buy too many 3.5s. I have a few. The 3” ones are a lot of fun and way more effective than the 2.75s. It’s just nice to be able to chamber anything.

I saw pads like that on line. It gave me the idea to make what I made. Plus I have pockets for shells

[Patrick]

So you're at the gun show and you come across this (hardly used for pretty cheap) and say, man that just has to be fun.

With factory 240gr JHP 44 mag, it's not as fun as you'd think.    

With factory 180gr JHP 44 special, it's much better.  And #12 bird shot is hardly any kick at all.

Back when I would carry this in my jeans pocket, I loaded up a bird shot to fire first, and 44mag second.  But bird shot past arms reach is not really safe for anyone in that general direction.    So I quit that foolishness.

Mine is .22. I don't think I want to pull a trigger on that thing !

[Jess from VA]

Sure you do, at least once.   

Interestingly, that .44 stainless derringer is about 2 ounces heavier than an alloy frame airweight Smith & Wesson .38 snubby (empty).

[MAD6Gun]

So you're at the gun show and you come across this (hardly used for pretty cheap) and say, man that just has to be fun.

With factory 240gr JHP 44 mag, it's not as fun as you'd think.    

With factory 180gr JHP 44 special, it's much better.  And #12 bird shot is hardly any kick at all.

Back when I would carry this in my jeans pocket, I loaded up a bird shot to fire first, and 44mag second.  But bird shot past arms reach is not really safe for anyone in that general direction.    So I quit that foolishness.

 Jess. I have the exact same gun. I shot it with a Blazer 44 mag round once. Once.... My thumb hurt for three days. Since then I load special loads for it. I would never even consider shooting my Desert Eagle rounds in it ( 220 gr bullet with 20.5 grains of Accurate #9 powder). Those kick quite a bit in the very heavy eagle. I don't want to even think what my hand would feel like after those in my Derringer..ouch.

[Jess from VA]

I've shot mine with hot loads many times (many being 30-40) (but not for a while).  Yeah it hurts; I just bear down with a hard grip.  It only almost flew out of my hand once.  If your cap isn't on tight, it might blow that off too; the muzzle blast is major, and close.    

I have small hands and that may be an advantage.  

But yeah, it's not like hot loads from my big Ruger Redhawk and Super Blackhawk, or even my Marlin 1894 are exactly soft shooting.  Limp wristing a big .44 revolver can get you smacked in the forehead.  And I've read about guys shooting the big Smith .50s twice, by accident.

All my handloads (in every caliber) were light for targets/practice, and my 44s are light by comparison to factory.  I quit handloading as I never really enjoyed it.  Still have all my gear and Dillon though.  

[Bigwolf]

Chris,
If you did not pattern that gun, you might want to.  At one time, I had a Mossberg pump 12ga chambered for 3in.  A few rounds thru that thing would bruise my shoulder with it’s horrendous kick!  However, anything in front of the barrel was quite safe.  At less than 10 feet, squirrels would just walk away, aluminum cans might get a few dents but no punctures whatsoever.  The pattern was not real bad but still……. 


Bigwolf

[Chrisj CMA]

Chris,
If you did not pattern that gun, you might want to.  At one time, I had a Mossberg pump 12ga chambered for 3in.  A few rounds thru that thing would bruise my shoulder with it’s horrendous kick!  However, anything in front of the barrel was quite safe.  At less than 10 feet, squirrels would just walk away, aluminum cans might get a few dents but no punctures whatsoever.  The pattern was not real bad but still…….  


Bigwolf

I shot a silhouette target from 25 yards and the target was annihilated. It was impressive. The target was 1/2” plywood and some of the #5 pellets stuck and some went through. The 00 buck made lots of holes

[Bigwolf]

That’s good!  After my experience with that old Mossberg, I don’t trust a heavy recoil to mean it hits the target hard.

[flsix]

Let us know how the home grown padding works against the bone bruiser.

Give some 2 3/4" #4 a try.

[Chrisj CMA]

Let us know how the home grown padding works against the bone bruiser.

Give some 2 3/4" #4 a try.

I have a real pretty 870 Wingmaster. It only shoots 2 3/4. It’s fun to shoot, very little kick. But that’s not what I bought the Super Mag for. When you need to shoot full power You have to accept it may not feel as comfortable as the little guys. I do want to develop the most effective technique and for training purposes a padded shoulder sounds better than nothing.

[Chrisj CMA]

Let us know how the home grown padding works against the bone bruiser.

Give some 2 3/4" #4 a try.

Jeff, that’s a good description. Bone bruiser.  I think you just gave my Remington a name. None of my other guns have names but this one is deserved. Lol I can call it my BB gun

I think I’ll get a little more used to it just like I did with the S&W 500. But I don’t ever expect 3 1/2” 00 Buck to be fun.