Stupidity gone over the edge

[Willow]

This morning I pulled alongside a Tesla sporting a personalized tag that read CO2NOMO.  My thought is that the young man driving that machine either has no idea why he bought that machine or no idea what it does.   

[Jess from VA]

I pay no attention to those cars.

But walking every early morning around my neighborhood, I find it weird when people go out and jump in their car, and drive away with almost no noise at all (what noise there is, is not a car noise).  And there are some pretty cobbled together extension cords out there too.  Some of our sidewalks are in bad shape, and walking in the street (left), those cars sneak up on you.   

 

[Valkorado]

At least he's happy with himself, no sense bursting his big green bubble with pesky facts.

[Willow]

LOL!  I was referring to the CO2 portion.     At first I thought it was in memory of someone who had died.

[old2soon]

     Most of them tree huggin save the planet green new deal types have NO CLUE Where Electricty comes from or How electricty is generated. Maybe he be drinkin uncarbonated soda?  RIDE SAFE.

[Willow]

     Most of them tree huggin save the planet green new deal types have NO CLUE Where Electricty comes from or How electricty is generated. Maybe he be drinkin uncarbonated soda?  RIDE SAFE.

Cars don't produce CO2.

[Valkorado]

 https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle

[Patrick]

Internal combustion engines certainly produce CO2.

[Valkorado]

Internal combustion engines certainly produce CO2.

And CO.

[Willow]

Apparently I'm not smarter than a fifth grader.  My memory from my education was that internal combustion engines produce CO, carbon monoxide.  Air breathing animals and humans produce carbon dioxide.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Stupidity gone over the edge ? Cars don’t produce CO2 ? 

[Robert]

How Do Catalytic Converters Work?

Catalytic converters, which first appeared on U.S. vehicles in 1975, transform hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides – the bad stuff – into water vapor and carbon dioxide, the stuff we can live with.

Actually this is how cars are basically 95% non polluting, the fact currently that most use fossil fuel to charge the batteries means his plate is wrong. I wonder if he was making a statement about himself?

[f6john]

How can you be a tree hugger and not like CO2 ?

[Robert]

How can you be a tree hugger and not like CO2 ?

Because you can be like Greta

[Willow]

How Do Catalytic Converters Work?

Catalytic converters, which first appeared on U.S. vehicles in 1975, transform hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides – the bad stuff – into water vapor and carbon dioxide, the stuff we can live with.

Actually this is how cars are basically 95% non polluting  

Obviously I haven't kept up.  My schooling in science was before catalytic converters.  I did know that catalytic converters did something to reduce pollution but didn't know exactly what.  

[vanagon40]

Cars don't produce CO2.

To [sic] much misinformation is posted by "experts" with no experience.  Reminds one of Congressional hearings.

[crow]

Carbon dioxide.   Nitric oxide.   Molyebdenum.       huh????

  How bout some. C3H5(NO3)3. 

[luftkoph]

According to the EPA burning a gallon of gasoline produces 8887 grams of co2 ,  thats like 19 pounds WTH a gallon of gas doesn’t even weigh that much, what am I missing here, is not a gram a unit of weight, and not a unit of volume.

[Serk]

According to the EPA burning a gallon of gasoline produces 8887 grams of co2 ,  thats like 19 pounds WTH a gallon of gas doesn’t even weigh that much, what am I missing here, is not a gram a unit of weight, and not a unit of volume.

I was curious about that, so I did some googling.

Short answer is:
Gasoline is 87% carbon, so there's already 5.5 pounds of carbon in a gallon of gas to begin with.
When combusted in an internal combustion engine, each atom of carbon will bond to TWO atoms of Oxygen, creating a CO2 molecule, so it's acquiring 2/3 of the atoms needed from the atmosphere, not the gasoline.

For a slightly deeper explanation (Albeit from a religious government site, so take it with a grain of salt):

https://climatekids.nasa.gov/review/carbon/gasoline.html

[Willow]

Cars don't produce CO2.

To [sic] much misinformation is posted by "experts" with no experience.  Reminds one of Congressional hearings.

Thank you for agreeing with me.  It's good to be right at least half the time.   

[Patrick]

Gasoline engines produce,

CO [ the killer]
CO2
NOx
H20
sulphur compounds [ acid that destroys old non stainless exhaust systems]


Pretty much all combustion produce this stuff.

[Jersey mike]

So I’m not a scientist but late last week I read a couple articles saying we are in short supply of carbon dioxide for the beverage industry including beer.

Here’s one below. My question is why can’t it be taken out of the atmosphere? Also, I have to say, we need more trees to exchange carbon dioxide to oxygen.

https://marketrealist.com/consumer/carbon-dioxide-co2-shortage/

“ CO2 is also produced by burning ethanol, ammonia, and natural gas.”

[Ramie]

Electric cars are not the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1E8SQde5rk

[Serk]

Electric cars are not the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1E8SQde5rk

Heh, you know he's onto something when he gets "fact checked"..... That's practically a badge of authenticity in today's messed up world!

"NOTE FROM TED: This talk only reflects the speaker's personal views and interpretation. Several claims in this talk lack scientific support. We've flagged this talk because it falls outside the content guidelines TED gives TEDx organizers.  TEDx events are independently organized by volunteers. "

[carolinarider09]

Electric cars are not the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1E8SQde5rk

Excellent presentation and I believe fact on.   We always neglect the beginning.  

Edited to add (don't know how I missed this part), but the premise is that we can get net zero with better batteries and renewables.   That last part is incorrect.   Renewables can not be the answer.  Unless, by renewables, you mean "breeder" reactors and then it might work. 

[Patrick]

So I’m not a scientist but late last week I read a couple articles saying we are in short supply of carbon dioxide for the beverage industry including beer.

Here’s one below. My question is why can’t it be taken out of the atmosphere? Also, I have to say, we need more trees to exchange carbon dioxide to oxygen.

https://marketrealist.com/consumer/carbon-dioxide-co2-shortage/

“ CO2 is also produced by burning ethanol, ammonia, and natural gas.”

Beverage industry needs CO2 ?  Just stick a big ass vacuum hose/pump in the sky and turn it on. That might even make greta happy.