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psckam
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« on: February 28, 2023, 03:47:24 PM »

I took my exhaust system off to do some other stuff. Good thing too as I found the joint boot had come away from the engine boss. Ended up ordering a new one because the old one wouldn't stay on. I guess the years and mileage caused it to become 'stretched?'. Might be a thing to take a look at, kinda hard to see back in there behind all the brake stuff. Just saying.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 03:51:54 PM »


How hard it is to put the boot back on is a "Valkyrie thing", but you can do it. A
new one is much easier than an old one.

I bought a new one when I knew I had to be in there, but I tried to put the old
on back on and got it  cooldude

-Mike
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 04:16:30 PM »

New, old... they're all hard to get on... both sides.

Some swear by alcohol... to be slippery without residue after drying.

Others swear by the roll it back on itself, condom-like installation.

Warming it up would probably help (softer).

I just swear.  

I have a new one, and hope I never need it.   Grin

PS:  if it's been off a while, you may have gotten water in there, so a final drive service might be in order to be sure you don't have the dreaded red rust in there.

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Avanti
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2023, 06:11:29 PM »

That looks like it should win the bad prize.
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98valk
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2023, 07:01:12 PM »

New, old... they're all hard to get on... both sides.

Some swear by alcohol... to be slippery without residue after drying.

Others swear by the roll it back on itself, condom-like installation.

Warming it up would probably help (softer).

I just swear.  

I have a new one, and hope I never need it.   Grin

PS:  if it's been off a while, you may have gotten water in there, so a final drive service might be in order to be sure you don't have the dreaded red rust in there.



that's from fretting corrosion which makes the rust like dust and not rust from water intrusion.
https://www.ntnglobal.com/en/products/care/damage/fretting.html
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psckam
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2023, 04:32:41 AM »

Replacement is a swingarm removal or at least a final drive/drive shaft removal operation. I was concerned as I didn't know how long that joint boot had been disconnected so I wanted to check the u-joint. Prior to disassembly I did try to push the old boot back on but it was enlarged and wouldn't stay put. The new one was a tight fit. Just curious..how did the final drive flange get that rusty don't your tires ever wear out?
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RonW
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2023, 05:56:21 AM »

"Just curious..how did the final drive flange get that rusty don't your tires ever wear out? "

Look at the wheel and the six stars (bolts). That's not a Valk final driven flange. Just a pic of another shaft driven bike used as an example.



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"Replacement is a swingarm removal or at least a final drive/drive shaft removal operation."

If you don't mind me asking, why are you removing the swingarm? You'd need a special tool for the swingarm nut.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2023, 09:15:32 AM »

Gold Wing pic. 
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psckam
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2023, 05:56:56 AM »

"Just curious..how did the final drive flange get that rusty don't your tires ever wear out? "

Look at the wheel and the six stars (bolts). That's not a Valk final driven flange. Just a pic of another shaft driven bike used as an example.



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"Replacement is a swingarm removal or at least a final drive/drive shaft removal operation."

If you don't mind me asking, why are you removing the swingarm? You'd need a special tool for the swingarm nut.

I have the tool and the time.
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RonW
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2023, 04:44:26 PM »

While you're at it, some members have noted that the stopper bolt on the swingarm doesn't have to be super tight as it's just serves as a peg for the rear brake caliper bracket. It's not holding anything down. In fact, where the stopper bolt goes through the caliper bracket, the shaft is unthreaded. Torque per manual is 51 ft-lbs (bottom pic). A lesser torque supposedly prevents the stopper bolt from seizing, so on.




          





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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2023, 08:04:38 AM »

While you're at it, some members have noted that the stopper bolt on the swingarm doesn't have to be super tight as it's just serves as a peg for the rear brake caliper bracket. It's not holding anything down. In fact, where the stopper bolt goes through the caliper bracket, the shaft is unthreaded. Torque per manual is 51 ft-lbs (bottom pic). A lesser torque supposedly prevents the stopper bolt from seizing, so on.




          







Ron,

Great diagrams for all members new and older. !
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0leman
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2023, 08:25:58 AM »

I lost that bolt soon after coming to OR.  Decided to visit the local Honda dealer for the bolt.  Big mistake seems the only order on Mondays, it was a Tuesday when visited them.  Then took two weeks to get the bolt.  Last time I visited them.

No sure why I lost it the bolt.  Yes, had removed the rear tire a month or so before.  I just smug the bolt down now.

Also agree the replacing the U-Joint boot is not fun.  Took me several tries and extra hands helping to.
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98valk
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2023, 08:38:38 AM »


Also agree the replacing the U-Joint boot is not fun.  Took me several tries and extra hands helping to.

coat the inside lips of the boot with silicone grease and it will slip right on, no problems
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