New little rifle: 10/22 takedown stainless steel X-22

[Savago]

I still don't have a 22LR rifle and realized that buying a Ruger 10/22 would make sense, it is an American classic after all.

I did some research and noticed that there are quite a few models available (https://ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/models.html).

I decided it would make sense to buy a take down model, again, I don't have any takedown rifle and it seems like a pretty useful feature.

After some research, I found this model: https://ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/specSheets/31152.html

What is brilliant about this model is the Magpul X-22 stock which allows to either store 3 magazines in the stock, or 1 magazine and 1 small box of ammo.

It also has a water proof small compartment in the grip, I guess useful to store matches or batteries (or even more ammo).
:-)

It seems the stock can be bought standalone (https://magpul.com/hunterx-22backpackerstock-ruger10-22takedown.html?mp_global_color=118) and installed in a classic 10/22 rifle, seem like an awesome upgrade!

Since I'm buying the rifle new, I guess it makes sense to go with the model that already has the magpul stock installed from factory.

The model I bought comes with a few extras:
a) Fiber optic sights.
b) 4 magazines (3 stored in the stock and one in the receiver).
c) Stainless steel (I generally prefer SS over regular steel).
d) Threaded barrel (maybe one day I could buy a suppressor when I move out of California).

Now I got wait the mandatory 10 days (precisely 240 hours) to be able to take possession of the rifle, you know, all the fun Cali stuff.
 

A pretty cool review of the two variants (blued and stainless steel) can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O26PGJg3wIU.

[Savago]

This is one example of all the survival stuff a guy stuffed in the X-22 magpul stock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Nf-sjTji8

[Jess from VA]

They are nice rifles.  

Mine (18.5" bbl Sporter was my 3d firearm), and cost like $89 when I got it.    

Unless you plan to keep it like this all the time, I suggest a straight 4X power scope.  I'm not a fan of larger variable power scopes, esp on a .22.  Though some kind of red dot would be lighter and more compact (for a take-down).



Besides some very quiet subsonic Aguila Colibri and Super Colibri (which won't cycle the action and must be single loaded, and very hard to find these days), mine always gets CCI Stinger ammo.  A lot of the cheaper big bulk ammo packs are much dirtier ammo.

Also, the triggers on 10-22s are not great (for precision shooting).  I lived with mine for many years until recently.  Ruger makes their own drop in trigger upgrade (the BX) for like $75... and the consensus best drop in from Timney is $245.  I asked my wizard gunsmith which drop in I should get, and he said none, I will lighten the stock one; and he did (for more than the rifle cost me 40 years ago, but less than the Timney).  Now I have to remember the light trigger to avoid early discharge (after 40 years of muscle memory on the old one).    https://www.snipercountry.com/ruger-1022-triggers/

There is a lot of reading out there for .22 rifle optics.  Remember that there are specialized rimfire scopes.  Red dots are generally 50yds and in, and scopes are better for longer than 50 yard ranges.

This is the nice light (7.5 oz) straight 4X I put on my bull barrel CZ 455.  But it doesn't come in silver.
 https://www.leupold.com/fx-i-rimfire-4x28-fine-duplex-riflescope
https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-FX-I-Rimfire-4x28mm-Duplex/dp/B0009JG78Q?th=1  (reviews)

[Psychotic Bovine]

I would have gone this route for my truck rifle, but I liked the price of the Henry AR-7.  The 10/22 is a far better rifle, though.
My other takedown rifle is a newly acquired Browning SA-22.

But, I need to say something mostly in jest:  I was in an out of the store with my rifles in less than 20 minutes.  
In fact, my last purchase, a Walther ppk/s, took about 10 minutes.

[old2soon]

I would have gone this route for my truck rifle, but I liked the price of the Henry AR-7.  The 10/22 is a far better rifle, though.
My other takedown rifle is a newly squired Browning SA-22.

But, I need to say something mostly in jest:  I was in an out of the store with my rifles in less than 20 minutes. 
In fact, my last purchase, a Walther ppk/s, took about 10 minutes.

      Well Chris You and I Do LIVE in FREE States!  RIDE SAFE.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I would have gone this route for my truck rifle, but I liked the price of the Henry AR-7.  The 10/22 is a far better rifle, though.
My other takedown rifle is a newly squired Browning SA-22.

But, I need to say something mostly in jest:  I was in an out of the store with my rifles in less than 20 minutes. 
In fact, my last purchase, a Walther ppk/s, took about 10 minutes.

      Well Chris You and I Do LIVE in FREE States!  RIDE SAFE.

Cali is beautiful, been there a couple times, but I love being able to buy any gun I want.  A suppressor might be next on my list.

[Savago]

@Jess: excellent suggestion! I will start looking for rimfire scopes.

About Leopold scopes, I guess this is valid: "buy good glass once so you only cry once."

@old2soon and @Psychotic: Yeah, gun law in Cali sucks big time and it is getting worst everyday.

I'm rushing trying to buy what I don't have before it is somehow prohibited. Currently eyeing a semi-auto shotgun and a semi-auto rifle in 5.56 NATO.

[Jess from VA]

Leupold is very good, but some of the cost is the name.

I have a straight 4X on my old 10-22 I had the shop that sold it to me put on for me.

American made Swift Optics Reliant 4 X 32, $128 today.  It's beat up and chipped and still working fine.
Wider field of view than the Leupold 4 X 28

Remember, with auto shotguns, gas operated kick less than all others.

Supposedly the gold standard for auto 12s is the Beretta, and they are supposed to have a new one out (vice the 1301).
https://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-ultima-patrol-black/

I have the Mossburg 930 SPX.  I like a full stock pistol grip shotgun so it can be handled one handed if necessary (like dialing 911 with the left hand).  Also, a (firm) pistol grip will take more recoil off your shoulder than a straight stock. https://www.mossberg.com/930-spx-pistol-grip-85370.html

And the best aftermarket stuff for it.  https://www.gggaz.com/mossberg-930-accessories.html

[cookiedough]

probably at least 20 years ago I bought a base wood grain model ruger 10/22 with basic 4x scope for 199 which was pretty standard price back then for a long time.

I got my dad's old say 1970ish Ithaca M49 single shot lever .22. stopped making them in 1978 I think.  I read up and way back then they were selling brand new for 20-25 bucks tops.   Now they are supposedly asking over 400, NUTS, if you ask me.
It shoots very accurate open sights, no kick, but I prefer a scope to be more precise, good cowboy gun.  If my kids keep it some 40 years later, it maybe worth 500 bucks?   

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/ithaca-rifles.c305_p1_o6.cfm

[Jess from VA]

My other takedown rifle is a newly squired Browning SA-22.

A non takedown Browning I got to shoot was the most accurate 22 semi I ever handled (knowing 22 ammo is a big variable).  And I always wanted one.     

[Savago]

@cookiedough: lever action guns are pretty trendy lately.

My guess is that your Ithaca value should go even higher with time.

For reference, 25 bucks in 1978 would be equivalent to $115 in today's dollar, so the price difference is not only due to inflation.

The closest to the Ithaca you can find in this days probably would be a Henry classic blued in 22LR that goes for around $400 bucks in my neck of the woods (ref: https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/lever-action-22-rifle/).
:-)

[cookiedough]

@cookiedough: lever action guns are pretty trendy lately.

My guess is that your Ithaca value should go even higher with time.

For reference, 25 bucks in 1978 would be equivalent to $115 in today's dollar, so the price difference is not only due to inflation.

The closest to the Ithaca you can find in this days probably would be a Henry classic blued in 22LR that goes for around $400 bucks in my neck of the woods (ref: https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/lever-action-22-rifle/).
:-)

wow,  400 bucks for a basic .22 lever action single shot is awfully pricey.  I wonder how much my 1989 ruger M77 .30-06 bolt action runs now pd 325 bucks back then.  my guess new is not much over 450 bucks without looking it up ?  Or, I guess since not having bought a gun since that .22 some 20+ years ago, besides a high powered pellet gun (that is much heavier and LOUDER) than a .22, it costs over 500 now new?

[cookiedough]

I also got my dad's am guessing 1960's Harrington and Richardson Inc topper model 158 single shot 12 gauge no longer produced either since H&R went out of business bought out by Remington and no longer around since 2007 or so.  I think I saw online that a used one went for 299 bucks recently.  I bet dad paid less than 50 bucks for it in the 1960's before I was born.  I only shot it a few times vaguely remember doing that growing up in late 70's, early 80's and all I can remember it kicked like a mule being so light.  Then again I was only 10-12 years old and probably any 12 gauge kicked hard being so young?   

And here I am sitting on say 700 bucks in 2 guns I really have no use for.  I was going to give them to my kid in his house to have thinking they were only worth 100 bucks each or so.

Only other gun I wanted which my brother took when dad passed in 2008 was my winchester model 94 30/30 lever action 6 shot with top ejection.   I loved that gun for under 100 yard deer rifle, but much past 100 yards, was not very accurate bullet dropped way too much in that 200 yard range or more, thus my .30.06 came about.

[h13man]

Ruger 10-22 is most revered as accessories are most available for this rifle. I have a laminate stock with nickel finish circa 1989 that was commissioned by Sam Walton sold at Walmart at the time. As far as a scope, I had a matching 4 power Simmons but with my old eyes I replace it with a variable 3-9 power. Had a plastic Remington made in 90's for awhile that was discontinued. Shot well but was cheaply made.

[old2soon]

     NOT a take down but one I Dearly miss was that Remington Nylon 66. Open sights dead on and jest fer yuks and giggles put on a Weaver 2 X 6 variable sight. Kenny-R I P-and I would wad up a Lot of rats at the dump! Tween the Remington and my High Standard 9 shot lotsa cheap FUN in the 70s! And with those fast movin rats helped that old hand eye cordination thingy! RIDE SAFE.

[Savago]

I wonder how much my 1989 ruger M77 .30-06 bolt action runs now pd 325 bucks back then. 

On gunbroker the m77 is hovering around $800 to $1200 bucks, check this:
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=ruger%20M77%20.30-06&Sort=13

[Jess from VA]

The biggest price hike in firearms may be the little US M1 Carbine.  Manufactured in WWII for 2d echelon troops in lieu of and cheaper to make than the 1911 pistol (about $45 each), they are going for over $1K (just old beaters).  I think I paid $125 for mine, a very nice Inland.

[Psychotic Bovine]

The biggest price hike in firearms may be the little US M1 Carbine.  Manufactured in WWII for 2d echelon troops in lieu of and cheaper to make than the 1911 pistol (about $45 each), they are going for over $1K (just old beaters).  I think I paid $125 for mine, a very nice Inland.

Actually, the FP-45 liberator was made for $2 and is now going new for $500! (I know, totally a niche gun, but I want one!).  An actual WWII fp-45 goes for above $2k, I think.

[Psychotic Bovine]

My other takedown rifle is a newly squired Browning SA-22.

A non takedown Browning I got to shoot was the most accurate 22 semi I ever handled (knowing 22 ammo is a big variable).  And I always wanted one.     

When I got my first rifle at age 13, dad had asked me what I wanted. I had initially said a Browning sa-22, but that was too expensive.  So, my second choice was a Marlin 39a, which he bought me.
So, just a month ago I finally got the sa-22 I wanted.  Have not even shot it yet, but it's absolutely gorgeous. 

[Jess from VA]

Not only are they gorgeous, they are unique, like a big game rifle .22, and they fit me like a glove (shooting).  



I don't want one of those one shot Liberators.  I like to shoot all my stuff, and I'd probably lose a hand with that pot metal thing.     Of course the idea was to drop them to French resistance, and they'd shoot a German in the back of the head and take his real firearm



That Marlin 39a was also a nice rifle.  Marlin went under, Ruger bought them, and the 39a is too expenve to make and is dropped from the line.  I always worried a lever action gun would be trouble with the little 22 round.  

[Psychotic Bovine]

Sad about the 39a not being made anymore.  It's a classic, considered by many to be one of the best .22's around. 

My sa-22 has an old weaver scope on it, since the modern scopes don't look right.  That skinny scope tube just seems more balance for such a svelte rifle.

[Savago]

To complete the story...

After waiting the mandatory 10 days (precisely 240 hours) to take possession of my property that I paid for, I could get the 10/22 home.

I cleaned, inspected and lubbed the little rifle. It is so light! I love it!

Went to the range with 3 types of ammo: CCI Stinger (32 grain, 1640 FPS, hollow point) as suggested by Jess, CCI target (40 grain, 1200 FPS, copper plated round nose) and Federal Range pack (40 grain, 1200 FPS, regular lead).

I've shot something over 120 cartridges, all cycled perfectly (i.e. feed, eject). And I thought that 22LR was supposed to be finicky?

The smaller group was with the Stinger, followed by the CCI Target. I guess sometimes you get what you paid for (i.e. the cheaper ammo had worst grouping).

I'm looking next to mount a rimfire scope in this little rifle. Also planning to add some spacers in his buttstock to make the length of pull bigger.

I think now I understand why so many love the 10/22: it is simple, reliable and you can have great range fun for cheap with it.

[Serk]

After waiting the mandatory 10 days (precisely 240 hours) to take possession of my property that I paid for, I could get the 10/22 home.

...just wait until you move to a semi-free state and get to enjoy the 9-12 MONTH wait to get the suppressor you paid for! 

[Savago]

After waiting the mandatory 10 days (precisely 240 hours) to take possession of my property that I paid for, I could get the 10/22 home.

...just wait until you move to a semi-free state and get to enjoy the 9-12 MONTH wait to get the suppressor you paid for! 

Man... that blows and it is wrong.

If you are a non impeded adult living in the USA, it should be processed expeditiously (that is at least my opinion).

That being said, Texas is miles ahead of Cali when it comes to the 2nd amedment rights.

I wished I could ever buy a suppressor. In Cali it is illegal to even have a threaded barrel mounted in a pistol (only long guns are allowed to be threaded, but you can't even install a flash hider on it).
 

[Jess from VA]

Savago, if you'd like some very quiet .22 ammo, open the link (Aguilla Colibri, Super Colibri out of stock, ask to get on the waiting list, that's how I got my Super Colibri)

No gunpowder, just the rimfire primer for energy.  Colibri is 375 FPS, Super Colibri is 500 FPS.

Quieter than a pellet rifle or spring piston air rifle (most are supersonic with a loud snap).  The Colibri is just a THUT out of a rifle, and does not sound like a gunshot.  Both will break glass, and both will do in rodents/squirrels.  Ranges of 50-60 feet are fine, but it's not for long range obviously.  It makes more noise from a .22 handgun.  Shooting from a rifle, the bullet striking the target makes more noise than the rifle shot. No hearing protection necessary at all. The perfect ammo for use in a neighborhood, but clearly you still have to pick your shots safely.  I might miss a squirrel centered on a 5-6 foot trunk oak tree, but I never miss the tree.  

Now Aguilla advertises that the low power .22s are only for handguns, as the 20gr slugs might get lodged in a longer rifle barrel, but I have put 1000s of rounds of both brands through my 18.5" barrel 10-22 Sporter, and not one hangup ever (so I think this is lawyers warning stuff).  I occasionally squirt a shot of lube down the barrel, but it doesn't seem to need it.  However, IF you make a shot and don't hit your target or hear it hit, you might want to check the barrel for obstruction before shooting again (though I never have).  

Now the Colibri/Super Colibri is not powerful enough to cycle a semiauto, so I single load with small needle-nose pliers, with the mag out and action open.  You might be able to load a mag and load cartridges by pulling the charging handle, but I've never done that (to avoid possible jams).  I have done it (gently) on my .22 CZ 455 20.5 inch barrel mag fed bolt gun, and it works.

This stuff is hard to get, and Midway limits to 3 boxes. (overpriced, but...)
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=.22+aguilla+colobri

[Chrisj CMA]

wow,  400 bucks for a basic .22 lever action single shot is awfully pricey.  I wonder how much my 1989 ruger M77 .30-06 bolt action runs now pd 325 bucks back then.  my guess new is not much over 450 bucks without looking it up ?  Or, I guess since not having bought a gun since that .22 some 20+ years ago, besides a high powered pellet gun (that is much heavier and LOUDER) than a .22, it costs over 500 now new?

Guns are like paint jobs. How you ask. Lol

A good one isn’t cheap and a cheap one isn’t good.

If $400 is too much for a good rifle, then you don’t need it.

[da prez]

  I have a Henry survival rifle. It all packs in the stock along with two magazines. Goes together fast and shoots better.
  My dream rifle has always been a Henry western , octagonal barrel , brass lever action.  My wife bought it for me. I got it in a 22 style as my shoulders could not hold up a bigger rifle. (I have since got a lot more strength after shoulders were replaced).
 My next will be a Henry 9mm rifle. I want to see and fondle one before I order it.

                                                da prez

[Chrisj CMA]

I have grown to love levers. My wife has a single shot take down drop block in .22 that is a hoot. And my Marlin pre safety .357 Carbine is a lot of fun as well. To me it’s about a time when quality stuff was made in the good old USA.

[Savago]

@Jess: I will try to get some, maybe I can order in one of the local gun shops. We cannot buy ammo online in Cali (another dumb restriction).

@Chris: beautiful rifle!

[Jess from VA]

@Jess: I will try to get some, maybe I can order in one of the local gun shops. We cannot buy ammo online in Cali (another dumb restriction).

@Chris: beautiful rifle!

I don't think ordering ammo From Midway over the phone is the same as On-line, but I could be wrong.  Of course shipping ammo (even 3 small boxes of 22s) is always more expensive.

I had a standing order for any Aguilla Colibri from my local shop/range, and no luck for a year (so far).