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« on: April 28, 2023, 03:33:44 PM » |
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For those times when you have enough juice to spin her, but not enough to light her fire.
I 'm thinking I need a switch on the coil side of the relay? Easiest and most waterproof way prefered.
Thx.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2023, 05:12:14 PM » |
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Power is not supplied to headlights while starter button is depressed. A switch would do you no good.
If this is becoming a problem, your battery is likely on its way out.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2023, 05:29:26 PM » |
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Yes, that's true but turning them off for a moment might make the difference between riding and walking. I put a maintainer on the battery regularly, but got caught on a nice day today and the battery was down. Everytime I let off the button I would hear her fire. I have a Dan Marc? solenoid and sometimes it takes a little while with the key on to get the bowls topped up, and those 2 headlights need to be off.
I just want to switch the high beam off so I would always be able to have the low beam on. I had a 80's Gold Wing wired that way years ago. I guess I could add a switch into the coil for the high beam relay if I find it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2023, 06:41:54 PM » |
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Or, you could just get a battery in good condition, to replace the one that is failing. A maintainer doesn't reverse the increase in internal resistance that comes with an old battery.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2023, 06:57:46 PM » |
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Or, you could just get a battery in good condition, to replace the one that is failing. A maintainer doesn't reverse the increase in internal resistance that comes with an old battery.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2023, 07:11:47 PM » |
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You need a battery, not a mcGiver fix.
Jim
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2023, 07:14:36 PM » |
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What they're telling you is if the engine fires the instant you let off the start switch, your battery is shot. It has enough juice to spin the motor but not enough left to fire it until that second when you let off the start button. As for a switch to kill the headlights, on the I/S it's already in the circuit so you'll accomplish nothing. Get a new battery.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2023, 09:15:46 PM » |
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Yes, that's true but turning them off for a moment might make the difference between riding and walking. I put a maintainer on the battery regularly, but got caught on a nice day today and the battery was down. Everytime I let off the button I would hear her fire. I have a Dan Marc? solenoid and sometimes it takes a little while with the key on to get the bowls topped up, and those 2 headlights need to be off.
I just want to switch the high beam off so I would always be able to have the low beam on. I had a 80's Gold Wing wired that way years ago. I guess I could add a switch into the coil for the high beam relay if I find it.
A couple things. I also run a Dan Marc. If the carb bowels are empty enough that it takes much time to refill them with the key on, there are some other issues. Unless you are going months between rides. If you have an OEM petcock you will have to hit the start button to get a vacuum to pull fuel out. (Which would negate the headlights) If you are running a manual Pingel, it shouldn’t take long to fill the bowls. From my experience your symptoms are classic battery starting to fail issues. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2023, 09:40:46 PM » |
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tried pulling the headlight fuse? to see if it would make a difference. You could leave the headlight fuse out, nobody know the difference during the day.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2023, 08:22:15 AM » |
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70 years old, not riding much. Yea, that's true about the petcock needing the engine vacuum. I'll get another battery. Pulling the fuse it did crank right up tho. The moment you let off the button the lights suck the juice. I can always pull the fuse if it happens in the future. Thx all
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2023, 08:45:32 AM » |
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The temporary fix will determine where you will get stranded . Start from scratch. If battery tests bad after a full charge, replace. I would recommend cleaning all connections and terminals. A bad ground causes many problems that are blamed on something else. I have seen alternators replaced only to have the same problem. Dirty connections. Towing will cost more than the repairs , and then you still have to repair. I am older than you and can still push my bike , but I would rather ride.  da prez |
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2023, 07:26:20 PM » |
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I also highly recommend a volt meter display on our bikes. A handle bar USB charger with a display is simple. Ad a switch so it's off and not draining the battery between rides.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2023, 06:37:23 AM » |
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Wire a switch into the low beam wire aft of the relay. The switch I was going to recommend is presently unavailable but Amazon has a pretty good selection.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2023, 04:02:22 PM » |
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Do the EU-spec Valkyries incorporate a headlight on-off switch in the right-side switch housing?
If they do I'd look at the auction site for an EU switch housing + guts. Then swap them.
But as others have pointed out, don't Band-Aid a fix.
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2023, 12:16:17 PM » |
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They do.
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