court case reimbursement

[cookiedough]

wow, ONLY took 6 months and over 6 hearings to reach a verdict of guilty with 80 hrs community service and reimbursement of damages for three 17/18 year olds who shot out my kids rear hatch glass window of 04 pontiac vibe with a BB gun which I replaced myself costing me 300 bucks reimbursement.  If I took it somewhere professional woulda been over 500 bucks. 

for those lawyer types on here who deal with court hearings weekly,  I applaud you for being so patient.  We shall see how many more months my kid gets paid that 300 bucks though?  I cut the delinquents a break coulda done 500 bucks still cheaper than a repair shop. PLus, not counting the 3-4 BB sized dents with no paint left on the rear hatch.  Car has 170K miles and not worth a dent repair and paint job, LOL. 

This is what is wrong with the court system being so backed up.  Shoulda been a simple 2 court case verdict and DONE, not over 6 since early November 2022, about one hearing per month. 

[carolinarider09]

The time it takes to get to "court" does seem to be getting longer and longer.  Don't know if it is the increase in cases or the change in the amount of time the court's actually work. 

Still six months is way too long. 

[da prez]

  They can't upset the guilty party. It(?) , referring to the guilty one , Has it's rights to be a moron and need not be punished for doing so.
 I was born in the 40's . If we did wrong , a neighbor would whip our ass , call our parents and we got another ass whipping at home. We were also responsible for restitution for what ever damage. Be it cash or labor.
  To this day , I have not wanted to do a mass destruction or chose to  identify  as something else.
 To much damage is done with out punishment. 

                                 da prez

[Mooskee]

 They can't upset the guilty party. It(?) , referring to the guilty one , Has it's rights to be a moron and need not be punished for doing so.
 I was born in the 40's . If we did wrong , a neighbor would whip our ass , call our parents and we got another ass whipping at home. We were also responsible for restitution for what ever damage. Be it cash or labor.
  To this day , I have not wanted to do a mass destruction or chose to  identify  as something else.
 To much damage is done with out punishment.  

                                 da prez

I was born in 1953, and lived under the same rules as you. I would make sure I got home and presented my side of the story first so I didn't get a whooping for trying to cover it up!

My kids born in the 80's lived under those rules too. Somewhere along the line the world quit handing out consequences, and starting making victims out of  criminals.

Why is it so hot in here, and what are we doing in this handbasket?

[cookiedough]

well, I called the circuit court in charge of collections.  She said the defendants have 60 days to pay and if not,  the court system goes at them harder than a normal collection agency by garnishing wages and other means.   Judging by their rap sheets a mile long,  I doubt they will make payment arrangements and if they ever get jobs,  I might get my 300 bucks back eventually say in 6+ more months?  The max sentence handed down for the misdemeanor charges (gee when is shooting BB guns at cars and people not a felony?) is ONLY 10 days jailtime and 80 hours of community service on top of paying up.  

[Jess from VA]

Tell the judge if they don't pay as ordered, you want to shoot them in the nuts with a BB gun, 300 times.

Fair is fair.   

[cookiedough]

Tell the judge if they don't pay as ordered, you want to shoot them in the nuts with a BB gun, 300 times.

Fair is fair.   

sorta wished my kid who saw the broken glass came out of his local walmart parking lot and seen the 3 delinquents  do it.  Problem is how does one know is 'just' a BB gun and not a REAL gun?  or they had another real gun with them even a .22 caliber?   Not so sure he would have confronted all 3 in the car even if known just a BB gun?  Pretty sure he coulda whooped all 3 of them easy enough and taken that BB gun and shattered it on the ground.  I would have as well ONLY if known just a BB gun.  Was winter time so unless got shot in the face,  a few BB shots to a winter coat would be no big deal before grabbing it and smashing it to pieces.  I would not be afraid of three 17/18 year old punks.

[cookiedough]

probably safest thing to do is get your cell phone out though and snap a pic of the license plate of the car they were in then report to police.  If at that time the 3 delinquents want to get out of their car and start smack talking back,  then game on.    Best to avoid confrontation since never know nowadays what they may have otherwise besides just a BB gun.

[Jess from VA]

My experience is that "BB guns" won't break car glass.  Chip (or dimple) it maybe, but not break it.

I never had a higher power CO2 BB gun though. 

[MarkT]

My experience is that "BB guns" won't break car glass.  Chip (or dimple) it maybe, but not break it.

I never had a higher power CO2 BB gun though.  

Powerful air rifles have been around for awhile.  I have a Winchester break-barrel affordable one that has 1200fps muzzle velocity.  Scope equipped, 22LR speed,  sub-MOA accuracy. You can find them online in seconds.  Lewis & Clark had powerful air rifles for hunting/defense.  Not a new weapon.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

[carolinarider09]

Powerful air rifles have been around for awhile.  I have a Winchester break-barrel affordable one that has 1200fps muzzle velocity.  Scope equipped, 22LR speed,  sub-MOA accuracy. You can find them online in seconds.  Lewis & Clark had powerful air rifles for hunting/defense.  Not a new weapon.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

Thanks.  I will take a look.  I was considering this alternative this past week.

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Powerful air rifles have been around for awhile.  I have a Winchester break-barrel affordable one that has 1200fps muzzle velocity.  Scope equipped, 22LR speed,  sub-MOA accuracy. You can find them online in seconds.  Lewis & Clark had powerful air rifles for hunting/defense.  Not a new weapon.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

Thanks.  I will take a look.  I was considering this alternative this past week.

I have one of these

https://www.crosman.com/product/f4-177

Reloading is a work out and it's accurate.

[Valkorado]

Some brave souls use .22 caliber pellet air rifles to hunt wild hogs.  They'll break a windshield for sure.  

I have a break action pellet air pistol that puts out an impressive 800fps velocity.  Not a Daisy kids toy.

[cookiedough]

yah,  BB guns can break glass windows for sure.  Much like a kid in my class way back in the 80's threw a small pea gravel at our school's HEAVY THICK glass doors and shattered it to pieces from a distance even tossing it.  His parents were not too happy footing the bill on that one am sure.

For those more knowledgeable than me,  I bought well over 10 years ago a GAMO break action barrel .177 caliber on sale like 99 bucks with scope ( was like 169 or something like that original price).  It is not light at all like 7-8lbs. weighs more than my ruger M77. 30-06 (or about the same I guess but feels heavier to me?) .  It also kicks like a mule, well at least for a Pellet gun.  The biggest thing I do not like is the LOUDNESS of it since knew other models had 'whisper quiet' technology.  This makes as much or more noise than shooting a .22 gun. 

If I had to do it again,  I would buy a .177 caliber air rifle with scope, even if say 150 bucks, that is 'whisper quiet', much much lighter, and TONS less recoil.