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« on: August 24, 2023, 01:44:07 AM »

Watched the debate, it did affect my opinion of who might get my support.   I was not impressed with a couple who want the office, moderately impressed with two and very impressed with the others.   Let's be honest, any Moderate Conservative would get my vote over what we currently have.

Did it change or reinforce your opinion(s) of who should move into the Oval Office.

I have never been polled on such things so, my opinion(s) are not reflected in any of the polling numbers being shown on the different medias.  

There are some candidates that I could not support (unless it was between one of those candidates and our current POTUS).   There are a few candidates I could support in both the POTUS and VPOTUS.  

Just interested in this group's opinions of those who will vote Conservative.

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2023, 04:46:17 AM »

Didn’t watch
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2023, 04:57:36 AM »

Didn’t watch

 cooldude  OK, well I thought it was entertaining and to a certain point enlightening in reference to some of the candidates. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2023, 06:04:43 AM »

Hmmmmmm.  Good debate.

Haley as President, and Ramaswamy as VP.

There is something about Ramaswamy that is admirable and I like, but not quite ready.

(Subject to change)  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2023, 06:24:35 AM »

Hmmmmmm.  Good debate.

Haley as President, and Ramaswamy as VP.

There is something about Ramaswamy that is admirable and I like, but not quite ready.

(Subject to change)  Smiley

OK, did you have other "favorites" prior to that or was simply more impressed with their performance?

If I were to assign a numerical order to who impressed me the most, Haley would be in the top two, Ramaswamy in the top five.  But to quote you, that is "Subject to Change".

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2023, 06:34:42 AM »

Yes, wasn't to bad, they all said the same thing that needed fixing but in different terms. Haley touch on foreign policy, comments were good. Ramsaswamy needs several years of experiance first, to radical right now.Florida gov. was good has done a lot for the state. Chtistie, mafia. Asa very intelagent nows the system, to old. Pence, fair stay home. Tim Scott did fine, N.D. gov. good man but not for this job. Two front runners Haley,DeSantis in my opinion which is not much.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2023, 06:59:43 AM »

Didn't watch. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2023, 07:18:16 AM »

It only changed my mind on one thing. Policy issues are not something that can be debated in 3 minute round tables. I want to hear exact detailed plans, solutions on solving root causes to issues. The staged televised debate forums cannot provide that any longer.

The use of social media to discuss these matters with candidates will kill legacy media. IMO the public is better for this to change. Keep media dollars, influence, bias, out of debates.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2023, 07:34:14 AM »

Hmmmmmm.  Good debate.

Haley as President, and Ramaswamy as VP.

There is something about Ramaswamy that is admirable and I like, but not quite ready.

(Subject to change)  Smiley

OK, did you have other "favorites" prior to that or was simply more impressed with their performance?

If I were to assign a numerical order to who impressed me the most, Haley would be in the top two, Ramaswamy in the top five.  But to quote you, that is "Subject to Change".

Rams   cooldude

I had Ramaswamy at the top prior.  I’m a believer in the theory that we need radical change to thrive.  But, as I said, he is not quite ready. 

I looked at that group though and saw a good cabinet among the group.  I look at two things, can they do the job and how electable are they.  Haley fits that profile.  And I also want to know everything about the aliens, Ramaswamy and his “truth” will spill the beans on that I think.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2023, 08:42:23 AM »

I didn't watch while Nancy insisted on doing so. With that, I went to take a shower and stretched out on my bed to find something more interesting...maybe an old western. I later checked on Nancy and there she was...sound asleep on the couch with the debate in full swing. Guess the excitement was too much.  Wink
As for me, my vote goes to Willie Nelson. Haven't decided on his VP yet. Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2023, 08:51:35 AM »

      did NOT watch But fer an opinion-yeah i know-A B B J B! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2023, 09:06:11 AM »

I refuse to draw any conclusions this early on. My conclusions won’t matter in the Presidential primaries until we get down to the final folks still standing. They can all talk a good game but it always gets down to the last person(s) standing. I can say they were intimidated by VR. I do feel the more exposure we have to the nominee’s the better.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2023, 09:49:10 AM »

Want Youngkin as President and Scott or Haley as VP
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2023, 10:51:25 AM »

No.  I still won't vote for Trump.  Pence maybe.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2023, 11:14:52 AM »

I'm not sure about changing my mind.  I did identify a few that I will have no interest in seeing them advance.  Ramaswamy is a joke out of his water.  Christy was nothing new.  The governor of one of the Dakotas is not presidential material.  Haley has some good points but is mostly capitalizing on hope for agreement with her attacks.  Desantis may be good material but possibly just a little early.

What is important is who makes it to the general.  If it's any one of them I will vote for him there.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2023, 11:18:13 AM »

As a constitution - ist. I did not bother to watch either the debate or the Tucker special. Just had no interest in hearing the same nonsense and horse pucky spouted again from most of the debate-ors. As for Tucker and Trump I am full up on info there.

I felt that I had better things to do, like rocking on the front porch and whittling.

I suspect that many have already made up there minds and for most of them facts probably no longer matter, even if they correctly understood the issues when they decided.

There was a study in years past that at least half the voters voted for the wrong person for the wrong reason. And with the recent decreasing voter intelligence level in the US my guess is that the "at least half" has increased significantly.

Enough said.


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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2023, 11:21:37 AM »

 Didn't watch at all but caught the highlights this morning. IMHO Pence came off as a pompous ass going after Vivak on his age and inexperience. Christy came of as a bully but who's surprised by that. Vivak,Hayley and DeSantis looked OK but time will tell. I think it was a mistake for Trump to skip it but we'll see.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2023, 01:42:44 PM »

 Didn't  watch but did see Tucker C's interview with Trump going on at the same time. It was good and I understood better why Trump didn't want to attend the debate. He's my guy and the only one who can turn things around quickly IMHO. coolsmiley
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2023, 02:32:07 PM »

Didn't  watch but did see Tucker C's interview with Trump going on at the same time. It was good and I understood better why Trump didn't want to attend the debate. He's my guy and the only one who can turn things around quickly IMHO. coolsmiley

Yep!  Same. Go Trump
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2023, 09:13:33 AM »

+2  also watched Tucker  heard 5 times more people watched Tucker than the debate
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2023, 07:29:07 AM »

"Anybody except Biden".
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2023, 08:11:56 AM »

"Anybody except Biden".

Personal opinion but, I do believe the vast majority of this board would agree with that statement.

But, having said that, I was intrigued by three or four of the candidates.

I like Desantis and Haley, Pence would be another choice I could vote for.  Scott is a possibility but, need to learn more about how he's voted while in public office and his position on several things important to me.  All have some applicable experience and appear (based on my research) that they have integrity.   Virtually all of the other candidates eliminated themselves IMHO.

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2023, 10:59:12 AM »

Ramaswamy is a joke out of his water. 

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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2023, 11:49:05 AM »

I thought the moderation sucked.  People who were respectful and followed the rules got less speaking time.  I was unimpressed with Pence and Haley talking over those whose turn it was to speak.  Hutchinson and Christie did themselves no favors with their insurrection speak.  I find it odd that Pence is unpopular bc of his Jan 6 actions, yet every candidate there said he did the right thing.  

For me, these 8, at this point:
DeSantis
Scott
Pence
Ramaswamy (Not really sure about him yet, he says the right things)
Haley (Not a big fan)
Bergum (Should drop out)
Christie (Should drop out)
Hutchinson (Should drop out)
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2023, 01:54:54 PM »

Ramaswamy is a joke out of his water.  
What does this mean?  

LOL!  I thought it was self explanatory.  He has no experience in anything resembling government service.  He is smart-ass comments with nothing to back them up.  Too thin skinned.  Trying to buy on something he wrongfully claims he has in common with a large portion of the voting public.  He appears to be trying to imitate Donald Trump's path but almost everyone knew who President Trump was before he entered the gate.

BTW, f6gal, our lists are not that different.
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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2023, 06:06:03 PM »

Want Youngkin as President and Scott or Haley as VP


I'd like to see a DeSantis/Youngkin ticket.

I'd love to have Trump back in the Whitehouse but I don't think that he can actually win and even if he did the left would fight vehemently against anything that he wanted to do.

Their TDS is so bad that even if Trump tried to pass a bill that included everything that they wanted, they'd still fight it.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2023, 07:06:39 PM »

Want Youngkin as President and Scott or Haley as VP


I'd like to see a DeSantis/Youngkin ticket.

I'd love to have Trump back in the Whitehouse but I don't think that he can actually win and even if he did the left would fight vehemently against anything that he wanted to do.

Their TDS is so bad that even if Trump tried to pass a bill that included everything that they wanted, they'd still fight it.

I live in Florida. DeSantis has shot himself in the foot several times. He seems to have slowed down. Maybe he's reloading, I don't know. He has alienated a lot of the moderate voters that probably would have voted his way. I'd vote for him if it comes down to him and an obama clone. Otherwise it depends.

He is back home getting ready for the hurricane coming our way. Give him credit for that.    cooldude
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2023, 07:18:49 PM »

Want Youngkin as President and Scott or Haley as VP


I'd like to see a DeSantis/Youngkin ticket.

I'd love to have Trump back in the Whitehouse but I don't think that he can actually win and even if he did the left would fight vehemently against anything that he wanted to do.

Their TDS is so bad that even if Trump tried to pass a bill that included everything that they wanted, they'd still fight it.

I live in Florida. DeSantis has shot himself in the foot several times. He seems to have slowed down. Maybe he's reloading, I don't know. He has alienated a lot of the moderate voters that probably would have voted his way. I'd vote for him if it comes down to him and an obama clone. Otherwise it depends.

He is back home getting ready for the hurricane coming our way. Give him credit for that.    cooldude

He's not exactly a polished politician.

But that's one of the things that I like about him.

I have family in Florida that REALLY like him!

I'm thinking that you're governor and my governor would be a GREAT combination!
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2023, 06:34:41 AM »

 I didn't watch the debate but saw the highlights the next day. In my opinion Christy came off like a bully. He has as much a chance of a snowball in hell of being elected president. Pence came off as a pompous ass. Going after Vivek for being a "rookie". Trump was a rookie and he did great things for the country.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2023, 03:43:19 PM »

I didn't watch the debate but saw the highlights the next day. In my opinion Christy came off like a bully. He has as much a chance of a snowball in hell of being elected president. Pence came off as a pompous ass. Going after Vivek for being a "rookie". Trump was a rookie and he did great things for the country.

Did not watch but that above is an excellent summary of what I have heard on/from various news sources both "on-the-air" and online.
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2023, 02:49:49 AM »

I didn't watch the debate but saw the highlights the next day. In my opinion Christy came off like a bully. He has as much a chance of a snowball in hell of being elected president. Pence came off as a pompous ass. Going after Vivek for being a "rookie". Trump was a rookie and he did great things for the country.

Christie thought he was going to ride Trump’s coattails to a cabinet post but that never happened and ever since CC has been on an anti-Trump campaign.

Vivek needs to tone down his version of Trump’s campaign tactics. He seems like a smart guy and probably is but his youth will play against him because he comes off as arrogant and pompous and on the debate stage came off as some type of emcee for a ridiculous game show…which was sad because I’ve heard him discuss stuff before and he really seems to be very intelligent and knowledgeable on a wide variety of topics.


Added; so I’ve heard about some of this regarding Vivek, read the article but don’t have time to watch the video (15 minutes) this morning, I’ll watch it later tonight.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/the-news-why-it-matters/here-s-what-you-ll-find-when-you-dig-up-vivek-ramaswamy-s-past-hint-it-s-not-all-peaches-and-cream

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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2023, 09:32:39 AM »

I've already stated my opinion previously.   The title intentionally left out DJT in that he decided to not attend.    That does matter (to me).   That's not to say DJT wouldn't get my vote in the General election, I'm simply not sure he'll be able to campaign for the office with his current schedule of events.

Edited: I have no doubt this was part of the plan from the beginning.

Most folks I know all agree that any of those on the stage would be a better choice than we currently see on the Dem side.

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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2023, 04:51:46 AM »


Most folks I know all agree that any of those on the stage would be a better choice than we currently see on the Dem side.

Rams


True, but then again the Dems haven't set the bar very high.

Daffy Duck would be a better choice than anything they have to offer.
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