Sherwin Willians or Benjamin Moore - Non Valk Related

[carolinarider09]

We are planning on having some columns on our front and back porch painted as well as the box beams that are on top of them that hold the roof up.

In the past, we used either Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore for painting but have not done much painting in the last 10 years (since we finished the house). 

So, maybe things have changed.  What we want is a high quality long lasting outdoor paint.  We are having the project "hired out" so, as part of that deal, we have to provide the paint. 

What I am looking for is informed suggestions on the best brand of paint to use for this project.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Picture below shows the box beams and columns to be painted. 

[Jess from VA]

I painted to get though 9 years of school.  But steel mills, not houses.

With paint, prep is (most) everything.

I like oil base over water base, but I've been away too long from the profession, and latex has gotten much better.

I can't give a name brand. 

Look at web reviews,

[bassman]

May not be the info you’re looking for but……

https://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/exteriors/best-exterior-paint/

Also, whenever we hire out a painting job (almost always now) I tend to go with the brand the painter recommends.  These are his tools and will usually stand behind his product choice and work.  If I supply paint he can always claim it was not the best choice and not stand behind it if something goes wrong. 

As you already know and has previously been stated…….prep is the most important aspect to any paint job.   Find a painter who takes the time to prep correctly and the brand of paint will tend to be secondary.   

Good luck!

[carolinarider09]

May not be the info you’re looking for but……

https://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/exteriors/best-exterior-paint/

Also, whenever we hire out a painting job (almost always now) I tend to go with the brand the painter recommends.  These are his tools and will usually stand behind his product choice and work.  If I supply paint he can always claim it was not the best choice and not stand behind it if something goes wrong. 

As you already know and has previously been stated…….prep is the most important aspect to any paint job.   Find a painter who takes the time to prep correctly and the brand of paint will tend to be secondary.   

Good luck!

Thanks for the feedback.  I did not directly inquire about a recommendation from the person doing the work but I did ask if he had a "discount" with a store or supplier and he did not.   So, my assumption is that he did not have a recommendation.   

[Timbo1]

I cant give comparisons between the brands you mentioned.  But around 10 yrs ago now I painted our house that has aluminum siding on it.  It was a lot of work prepping the siding that was chalking pretty badly.  But after painting it with Sherwin Williams primer and paint it has held up great.  I would use them again if I ever repainted the house but think I'll go with vinyl siding instead when that time comes.

[RP#62]

When we had our house painted, I spoke with several painters.  Once we settled on one we liked and it was a multi generational family business and he was asking me what type of paint I preferred.  I asked him if he got along good with his parents.  He told me he thought the world of his parents.  I then asked if he had painted his parent's house and he said yes, of course.  I asked him what type of paint he used and he said Sherwin Williams Duration.  So that's what we went with.

-RP

[carolinarider09]

I painted to get though 9 years of school.  But steel mills, not houses.

With paint, prep is (most) everything.

I like oil base over water base, but I've been away too long from the profession, and latex has gotten much better.

I can't give a name brand. 

Look at web reviews,

Thanks Jess.  I have not looked at the "web" yet.

[carolinarider09]

When we had our house painted, I spoke with several painters.  Once we settled on one we liked and it was a multi generational family business and he was asking me what type of paint I preferred.  I asked him if he got along good with his parents.  He told me he thought the world of his parents.  I then asked if he had painted his parent's house and he said yes, of course.  I asked him what type of paint he used and he said Sherwin Williams Duration.  So that's what we went with.

-RP

Interesting approach.   Thanks.

[Jersey mike]

I like Benjamin Moore, used it a couple times, mostly on trim and small projects.

About 10 years ago I used Behr Premium Plus (paint/primer mix) semi-gloss on 2 10x12 work sheds. I love semi-gloss, I think it gives off a nicer finish and a better texture. I think it’s more weather resistant than flat, bu that just a non professional opinion.

Painted over T-111. It took a few coats to get a real good finish as the T-111 just sucked it right in (I should have used a straight primer before but was in a hurry) but it’s held up very nicely and the exterior of these sheds take a beating from stuff being leaned up against and stacked against. Yeah it’s chipped in a couple places from being banged up from work bit over all the finish and color have held up really nice.

I will say this with almost any paint, one coat really doesn’t cover and present as nicely as 2 coats.

Prep is key before painting. A quick wash down of dust and dirt or grime.

[carolinarider09]

I like Benjamin Moore, used it a couple times, mostly on trim and small projects.

About 10 years ago I used Behr Premium Plus (paint/primer mix) semi-gloss on 2 10x12 work sheds. I love semi-gloss, I think it gives off a nicer finish and a better texture. I think it’s more weather resistant than flat, bu that just a non professional opinion.

Painted over T-111. It took a few coats to get a real good finish as the T-111 just sucked it right in (I should have used a straight primer before but was in a hurry) but it’s held up very nicely and the exterior of these sheds take a beating from stuff being leaned up against and stacked against. Yeah it’s chipped in a couple places from being banged up from work bit over all the finish and color have held up really nice.

I will say this with almost any paint, one coat really doesn’t cover and present as nicely as 2 coats.

Prep is key before painting. A quick wash down of dust and dirt or grime.

Thanks for the feedback. Our agreement with the service providers states that they will clean the areas to be painted first and use two coats of paint. 

[h13man]

Always used Glidden because it was the best oil based available. House has been painted twice 34 yrs. Overdue and shopping for a painter as the person was suppose to do it is battling cancer. I hand painted the last time 25 yrs. ago. 1st. time was spray a "family favor discount" half arse spray job. No more ladders for me.

[Jess from VA]

Our agreement with the service providers states that they will clean the areas to be painted first and use two coats of paint. 

Some outfits will claim they are laying two coats of paint, all at once (one thick coat).

This is BS and should never be allowed.  Two coats means a coat, allowed to fully dry, and then a second coat.

Either primer and paint (color).

Or two coats of paint (color). 

Ask before they start.

[carolinarider09]

 

Ask before they start.

I did ask the question but, will verify that they really meant two coats of paint.

Funny thing is some of the paint recommended here says only need one coat.....   But, no matter which paint I purchase, I will hold them to the words in the agreement of "two coats". 

[Jess from VA]

It may only need one coat to look good... today (depending).

Exterior, and wanting it to last a long time, two coats anyway.   

[Robert]

Sherwin Williams super paint, formally called commercial paint along with a water repellent primer for wood supports called Drylock Extreme for high water contact areas. Drylock extreme says its for concrete and masonry but it works well on wood from experience.

Drylock:
A versatile masonry waterproofer that can be applied interior, exterior, above or below grade. Guaranteed to stop water up to 15 psi and resists cat 4 (140+ mph) hurricane winds. Resists mildew on the dry paint film.

Also for the wood supports that contact the bricks I would treat them with Wood Life copper coat or similar products.
Woodlife can be sprayed, brushed, or slopped on also.

If you have a constantly wet area or one that is unseen yet needs protecting you can use 887 Tropi-Cool 100% Silicone White Roof Coating 4.75 gal.
This stuff is 100% silicon forms a coating like the handles on tools. It will seal, and stay sealed for years and stops water intrusion. Its tough and can be recoated and will seal water leaks in roofs or any area. I even tried it in the base on my fountain to seal an area on the bottom that is constantly submerged and it works like a dream.

Have the Tropi cool on a commercial building flat roof that was leaking at the joints and its been 5 years and no leak with one application.

[_Sheffjs_]

S W is all we ever used in woodworking and now on the 92,000sf building I manage. 

[carolinarider09]

Thanks for all the feedback.  I let the wife decide after I made her aware of the feedback and recommendations I got here.  She elected to use Sherwin Williams Duration.  We went out this morning and purchased the seven (7) gallons the we were told they people doing the work would need. 

We shall see.  Work is to be done next week (well this coming week) and hopefully the weather will cooperate. 

Thanks again.

[_Sheffjs_]

The Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall is purple and yes from its first show in 1970.  We have it painted every 4-5 years with SW and they mix up 175 gallons for it. Purple has red in it and the Sarasota sun is harsh!  Still it outperforms the others by two years. 

[carolinarider09]

The Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall is purple and yes from its first show in 1970.  We have it painted every 4-5 years with SW and they mix up 175 gallons for it. Purple has red in it and the Sarasota sun is harsh!  Still it outperforms the others by two years.