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« on: December 28, 2023, 08:49:01 AM » |
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I have sort of a personal problem. My Grandson has failed, it seems, to renew his license plate for the car he owns. He is living in North Carolina.
I have tried to search and use the DMV information for NC via certain web services that claim to be able to provide that information. It appears that, it is not obtainable.
My question is, is it possible for someone to determine the status of a vehicle based on having the license plate information only. Such information would be "Registered Owner", Owner's physical address as listed on the Vehicle Registration form.
I do not mind paying a fee but I did pay a fee to the first and only website I used to try to obtain that information and it said "It was not available from my location" or words to that affect.
My daughter (his mother) has seemly mentioned it to him but he has not, it appears, taken any action to do the renewal. I am just trying to mitigate what might become a major event if he is "pulled over" for any reason. And yes, if you look at the license plate you can see it has expired.
Thanks for any advice.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2023, 09:15:25 AM » |
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Don't take a magic marker and change the expiration tag to next year. The policeman who caught me at that laughed real hard, but still gave me a ticket. It was a long time ago, and only meant to get me though a few days until I could get over to the DMV. PS: I think each state has it's own set of DMV rules, web sites, and computer data, so you better stick to North Carolina advice. (many are similar, but not identical) It is generally only a civil infraction ticket (not a misdemeanor) with a fine (equal to or higher than a plate renewal). Unpaid tickets can lead to worse consequences (like a bench warrant for arrest). Most DMV websites require a vehicle owner to have a pin and/or password to access their own vehicle information, so you probably can't get any without that. This information is not something we want available to just anyone. Rather than do his job for him, call him and tell him he is worrying his relatives and to cut it out (and take care of his own business). (No charge for that advice  )
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2023, 10:09:39 AM » |
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I do not mind paying a fee but I did pay a fee to the first and only website I used to try to obtain that information and it said "It was not available from my location" or words to that affect.
This won't help with your issue here. But when you get an error like you mentioned - if that's the true reason for the error, not BS boilerplate - you can position your IP address in the location they require, by using an appropriate VPN (Virtual Private Network) service. Which you should use anyway for security. I use ExpressVPN, powerful, top rated, without issues for me. Has plenty of servers around the world for you to spoof yourself from. Though I don't see any from NC. Here's tech info on VPN's if you want to read up on them. https://www.techradar.com/vpn/virtual-private-networks
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carolinarider09
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2023, 11:41:04 AM » |
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Rather than do his job for him, call him and tell him he is worrying his relatives and to cut it out (and take care of his own business). (No charge for that advice  ) Yes, that sort of crossed my mind. I might have more influence that his mother. His father has some severe medical issues so it's sort of up to my daughter and she asked me for assistance.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2023, 11:43:24 AM » |
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[ This won't help with your issue here. But when you get an error like you mentioned - if that's the true reason for the error, not BS boilerplate - you can position your IP address in the location they require, by using an appropriate VPN (Virtual Private Network) service. Which you should use anyway for security. I use ExpressVPN, powerful, top rated, without issues for me. Has plenty of servers around the world for you to spoof yourself from. Though I don't see any from NC. Here's tech info on VPN's if you want to read up on them. https://www.techradar.com/vpn/virtual-private-networksYou know that is sort of what I figured (location, location, location) and I have conceded the use of VPNs and your comment sort of sets up a need. A very interesting situation. But I will also check. Thanks. Will check into Express VPN.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2023, 07:09:26 AM » |
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I have sort of a personal problem. My Grandson has failed, it seems, to renew his license plate for the car he owns. He is living in North Carolina.
I have tried to search and use the DMV information for NC via certain web services that claim to be able to provide that information. It appears that, it is not obtainable.
My question is, is it possible for someone to determine the status of a vehicle based on having the license plate information only. Such information would be "Registered Owner", Owner's physical address as listed on the Vehicle Registration form.
I do not mind paying a fee but I did pay a fee to the first and only website I used to try to obtain that information and it said "It was not available from my location" or words to that affect.
My daughter (his mother) has seemly mentioned it to him but he has not, it appears, taken any action to do the renewal. I am just trying to mitigate what might become a major event if he is "pulled over" for any reason. And yes, if you look at the license plate you can see it has expired.
Thanks for any advice.
Not sure this will help but, if I really wanted to know the "status", I'd ask one of my local LEOs to run a check on the vehicle. (After I explained why I needed to know.) LEOs (counter to popular opinion.) can be very helpful. Doing so shouldn't cost you a dime. Rams
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2023, 07:14:55 AM » |
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Not sure this will help but, if I really wanted to know the "status", I'd ask one of my local LEOs to run a check on the vehicle. (After I explained why I needed to know.) LEOs (counter to popular opinion.) can be very helpful. Doing so shouldn't cost you a dime. Rams Thanks I shall try and and see what happens. I have a couple of LEOs that I do interface with on occasion.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2023, 07:19:09 AM » |
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Not sure this will help but, if I really wanted to know the "status", I'd ask one of my local LEOs to run a check on the vehicle. (After I explained why I needed to know.) LEOs (counter to popular opinion.) can be very helpful. Doing so shouldn't cost you a dime. Rams Thanks I shall try and and see what happens. I have a couple of LEOs that I do interface with on occasion. Hopefully, that "interface" doesn't include being behind bars.  Rams
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2023, 08:17:15 AM » |
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I know in Maryland you also need the tidal number along with tag number to register your car. I do it on line, but you need a login and password to do so. I think this may be time for a bit of tough love.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2023, 08:32:22 AM » |
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I know in Maryland you also need the tidal number along with tag number to register your car. I do it on line, but you need a login and password to do so. I think this may be time for a bit of tough love.
I am hesitant to give advice about raising children or grandchildren in this case. But, I must agree with your last sentence. What would it teach an 18 year old who has already shown negligence and breaking the law, if his registration was paid for him ? Believe me, this is something I live with on a daily basis for the last 20 years.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2023, 01:37:56 PM » |
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Hopefully, that "interface" doesn't include being behind bars.  Rams :  Nope. It's actually at town meetings and a couple of times we have had to some help with "wild things". Well not really wild. One day there was what appeared to be a pet pig and a dog running down the road in front of our house. The dog was not a real issue but the pig could have caused some traffic issues so I called the police and two officers from our town came out (I saw the two animals when I was walking our dog). They hung around and we talked and sort of got to know each other until the folks from the local animal shelter came and got the pig. The dog seemed to return to his home on his own.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2023, 02:05:53 PM » |
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The other option would be to call the DMV in NC, they might tell you something.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2023, 06:55:12 AM » |
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Driving with expired tags in North Carolina is NOT a moving violation, but it is a Class 3 misdemeanor. It is often the first step for a vehicle search that my turn up drugs or weapons. Driving while uninsured will typically bring a greater fine including loss of driving privileges.
So the steps are: get insured, get an inspection appointment and the vehicle passes, then renew tag online or in person. You will need the registration card and title number.

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Jess from VA
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2023, 08:42:59 AM » |
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Most of all this rigamarole is about collecting taxes and fees on our vehicles (with fines and punishment if you don't fork over). Insurance is a good idea (and necessary evil), as is being able to check out your bona fides on the police cruiser computer (for officer safety). My so called safety inspections are pretty much a walk-around, except for the computer plugin (especially on newer vehicles). But most of it is about milking you for being able to afford a car (and fund the DMV beauracracy). I pay annual personal property taxes on all my vehicles, forever. (The annual taxes on my pretty new Dodge Promaster are more than each of my first two or three old cars cost.) Even my pair of 24yo Valks are taxed, forever. I've been at the bottom rung of the tax schedule on them for some time now, but the bastards raised the price of the minimum rung this year. These are county taxes, and much higher in the affluent counties. Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's..... Mark 12:17 Caesar is a greedy SOB. 
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