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« on: February 17, 2024, 12:43:12 PM » |
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Hi, I was wondering if any one has used after market plates on their bike from Amazon or any where else as Honda list there’s at $320. TIA Jim 1999 interstate
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« Last Edit: February 17, 2024, 01:02:34 PM by ciddriver »
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2024, 02:15:53 PM » |
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Is it Worth the cash saving for non O E M parts? If it were me-it aint it's you-I'd go with O E M parts when it comes to the clutch. RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam. VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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98valk
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2024, 02:17:16 PM » |
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GL1500 Goldwings fully loaded and pulling trailers get 300k+ miles from the OEM clutch. in '97 the clutch plates for Goldwings where upgraded to match the Valkyrie clutch.
when my '98 clutch rivets failed, I bought a used Goldwing clutch assembly from ebay to use the clutch basket for easier assembly of my clutch. it was listed at over 100k miles. I measured the plates and they were all still within spec listed in the service manual not even close to half worn.
so why are u replacing your clutch?
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« Last Edit: February 17, 2024, 02:24:49 PM by 98valk »
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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98valk
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2024, 02:32:08 PM » |
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Hi, I was wondering if any one has used after market plates on their bike from Amazon or any where else as Honda list there’s at $320. TIA Jim 1999 interstate
isn't that the price for the clutch basket only? and not the individual plates? https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/0 22100-MT8-010 CLUTCH (OUTER) $462.41 $383.80 each plate is 22201-MZ0-000 DISK A, CLUTCH FRICTION $20.71 $17.40 need 9 for $156 and 22202-MZ0-000 DISK B, CLUTCH FRICTION $20.71 $17.40 one needed.
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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ciddriver
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2024, 03:22:30 PM » |
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The reason I’m wanting to replace the clutch is after a ride to Alaska last Aug. with my bike with 200000 miles on it and a voyager kit installed pulling a tent trailer total towing weight of 1800 lbs. Last ride of the season I left the local coffee shop and when I twisted the throttle after I left the light it rev up but didn’t go any faster, tried it once more than park it fo the winter. Going to replace the clutch before this riding season as I have another 3 week trip planned. Just curious what people are using that’s all.
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ciddriver
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2024, 03:27:09 PM » |
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Just phoned Honda $32.69 a piece
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98valk
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2024, 04:09:00 PM » |
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The reason I’m wanting to replace the clutch is after a ride to Alaska last Aug. with my bike with 200000 miles on it and a voyager kit installed pulling a tent trailer total towing weight of 1800 lbs. Last ride of the season I left the local coffee shop and when I twisted the throttle after I left the light it rev up but didn’t go any faster, tried it once more than park it fo the winter. Going to replace the clutch before this riding season as I have another 3 week trip planned. Just curious what people are using that’s all.
understand. when was the last time the clutch slave cylinder was cleaned out? https://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23715https://www.goldwingfacts.com/threads/gl1500-why-to-rebuild-clutch-slave-cylinder.372581/
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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ciddriver
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2024, 04:55:03 PM » |
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All original. Will be checking that out when weather warms up. Replacing clutch and brake lines with braided ones I bought a few years ago. Rebuilding what needs done. New brakes and service rear end, c/t 2 years ago.
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2024, 08:40:27 PM » |
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Just curious what engine oil you using......some will cause slippage.
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ciddriver
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2024, 12:05:26 PM » |
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Shell Rotella T6 for the last 20 years.
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98valk
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2024, 12:26:50 PM » |
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All original. Will be checking that out when weather warms up. Replacing clutch and brake lines with braided ones I bought a few years ago. Rebuilding what needs done. New brakes and service rear end, c/t 2 years ago.
 clutch fluid, like brake fluid, same is used for both need to be replaced every 2 to 3 yrs. I use DOT 4 LV which provides a better feel in a larger range of ambient temps, but most important, has a higher wet boiling point allowing a 3 to 4 yr replacement time frame.
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2024, 01:15:08 PM » |
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I change clutch/brake fluid every year. The clutch slave cylinder collects a lot of moisture.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2024, 01:32:33 PM » |
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I change clutch/brake fluid every year. The clutch slave cylinder collects a lot of moisture.
complete wasteful overkill unless u live in a rain forest area, with very high humidity. just about all vehicle service manuals, including brake fluid manufacturers state 2-3 yrs. any brake fluid with a higher wet boiling point than common Dot 4, will last longer than 2-3 yrs.
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2024, 01:44:32 PM » |
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I had to do a full replacement way back at 120K on my Beast, Both inner and outer baskets were scored from 10 of the 16 rivets breaking lose. It's just pushing 200K now . She is fine
My Black bike I need to replace the Riveted plate. I always keep them plates handy now. I will get to it as soon as I get a clutch gasket. Every time I go to order , it's on a back order since 2020. I will only change that riveted plate disk for now on.. The tolerance was fine on the 120K bike. But with all the internal damage , I just didn't feel good about using the friction disks again.
The way to tell is in the clutch leaver, If that leaver is not coming all the way back like it should it's the riveted disk is starting to go..
A top Honda machinic was the one who told me that . He would always feel the clutch level on all of our bikes, When ever he saw us.. I asked him one day years ago ; why did he do that . That's what he told me. He said the friction plates seldom go bad , but that riveted plate he could feel when they were not tight like they should be.. And should be replaced..
But hey what do I know..
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Avanti
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2024, 07:03:31 AM » |
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I change clutch/brake fluid every year. The clutch slave cylinder collects a lot of moisture.
complete wasteful overkill unless u live in a rain forest area, with very high humidity. just about all vehicle service manuals, including brake fluid manufacturers state 2-3 yrs. any brake fluid with a higher wet boiling point than common Dot 4, will last longer than 2-3 yrs. I have 1984-1987-1999-1999-2002 vehicles all sense new. All have four wheel disc brakes. I have never had to replace a brake caliper. Add the age of all my vehicles together that equals 149 years. I will stick with my inexpensive method.
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